Ball Security Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Skinsinparadise said: I'd take a 6th for him if that's all we can get. When is the last time we had a loaded draft from the jump? I don't mind after trading down on draft day but before dract day even starts? Last time that I can recall was the first draft Dan inherited from Casserly. Lets Eagles style load up on picks. Heck even late rounders. Brissett probably isn't back next season. I’d rather have some competency in the position down the stretch if Howell were to get hurt. Hard to evaluate guys like Paul, Rodriguez, etc if you are playing Fromme. Any help with Howell’s development is a plus. I’d take that over an extra sixth rounder. But I can see the other side of the argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Rufus T Firefly said: I'd probably take a 6, but I can understand not doing that. A 5 would be hard to turn down for me. I'd get it too purely from the mentoring Sam standpoint -- I hate the narrative that I heard that part of it for them is they still want have a backup because of all the hits howell has taken. I'd pull the trigger though still. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, MrJL said: I would really like a 4th. They're bringing him in expecting him to start for several games As I alluded to earlier, I would think the tack to take would be maybe a 5th that can elevate depending on playing time and performance, maye to a 3 if he really plays a lot, and well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Skinsinparadise said: I'd get it too purely from the mentoring Sam standpoint -- I hate the narrative that I heard that part of it for them is they still want have a backup because of all the hits howell has taken. I'd pull the trigger though still. I hear the mentorship thing but is 8 weeks really going to make a difference? Lol 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I’d rather have some competency in the position down the stretch if Howell were to get hurt. Hard to evaluate guys like Paul, Rodriguez, etc if you are playing Fromme. Any help with Howell’s development is a plus. I’d take that over an extra sixth rounder. But I can see the other side of the argument. I just don't care about this season. Lets build draft capital for a new regime. I am over seeing whether Ron has another 8-9 run in him. I don't know if Fromm would retard the progress of a LG and a RB. half the season is already over. Just now, CapsSkins said: I hear the mentorship thing but is 8 weeks really going to make a difference? Lol I am guessing not that's why i am in favor of it. Edited October 31, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I'd get it too purely from the mentoring Sam standpoint -- I hate the narrative that I heard that part of it for them is they still want have a backup because of all the hits howell has taken. I'd pull the trigger though still. Yeah, if Howell gets hurt then I'd want Brissett gone even more, because at that point there is zero to play for but draft position. I am not turning down draft compensation for Brissett so that he can hurt our draft position too. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Some of you don't understand how dead money works and it shows. If no one likes a know-it-all, I struggle to whip up a family-friendly sentence to describe how they feel towards people who are loudly, confidently wrong while being arrogant. Sit out a few reps 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Ball Security said: I’d rather have some competency in the position down the stretch if Howell were to get hurt. Hard to evaluate guys like Paul, Rodriguez, etc if you are playing Fromme. Any help with Howell’s development is a plus. No late round pick has more value then having competent QB play in the event your starting QB that has already taken a season's worth of sacks gets hurt. If you gotta march Fromm or someone who barely knows the playbook out there Paul, Stromburg, Dot... they all likely turn into busts as you have no ability to evaluate them. And that late rounder aint replacing a whole lot. I got no interest in moving JB, even ignoring his mentorship bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 44 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Skinsinparadise said: I just don't care about this season. Lets build draft capital for a new regime. I am over seeing whether Ron has another 8-9 run in him. I don't know if Fromm would retard the progress of a LG and a RB. half the season is already over. This; and I think we have seen enough from Howell to know he is starting caliber. Whether he is top shelf remains to be seen, wont find out this season anyway. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Conn said: If no one likes a know-it-all, I struggle to whip up a family-friendly sentence to describe how they feel towards people who are loudly, confidently wrong while being arrogant. Sit out a few reps Took me a few beats to decide whether to do a thanks, thumbs up or laugh reaction. Wish I could have done all three. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisher37 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 35 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I don’t follow. None of those guys are under contract for next season. Agree; I think Samuel may have 4 or 5Million left on his signing bonus but I think thats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Consigliere Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Est.1974 said: Asking for a day 2 pick for Brissett seems overly aggressive. Nice starting point but a 4th or 5th would do me. Yep, that's crazy. Last full season as a starter w/some good #'s too was 2019. Why would anyone trade a pick in the 33-100 zone for that? Of course the bears are idiots, but there are only so many teams you can swindle, especially when we're normally one of those few. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I’d rather have some competency in the position down the stretch if Howell were to get hurt. Hard to evaluate guys like Paul, Rodriguez, etc if you are playing Fromme. Any help with Howell’s development is a plus. I’d take that over an extra sixth rounder. But I can see the other side of the argument. I’d rather crash and burn in glorious fashion if Howell gets hurt than have Brissett to fall back on. If they want a competent QB to finish the season then they can continue gameplanning to protect the one they’ve got. They don’t deserve a safety net in a lost season. Edited October 31, 2023 by Conn 3 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Conn said: I’d rather crash and burn in glorious fashion if Howell gets hurt than have Brissett to fall back on. If they want a competent QB to finish the season than they can continue gameplanning to protect the one they’ve got. They don’t deserve a safety net in a lost season. Yep, don’t need a safety net at QB now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Consigliere Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 minute ago, Conn said: I’d rather crash and burn in glorious fashion if Howell gets hurt than have Brissett to fall back on. If they want a competent QB to finish the season than they can continue gameplanning to protect the one they’ve got. They don’t deserve a safety net in a lost season. Me as well, but I guess its hard for a coach to say to the team, "Well, we moved Brissett because this season it totally ----ed". But who cares, I'm interested in the tank, and as many assets as we can build around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) I'd add last draft season, the talk was how underwhelming the top 10 was looking to be in the draft, one of the weaker classes. this top 10 is looking special especially at the spots we need including O line. I know no guarantees, drafts are crap shoots, etc. But at least in theory this is a good draft to load up on and hopefully get a high pick. Edited October 31, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I’d rather have some competency in the position down the stretch if Howell were to get hurt. Hard to evaluate guys like Paul, Rodriguez, etc if you are playing Fromme. Any help with Howell’s development is a plus. I’d take that over an extra sixth rounder. But I can see the other side of the argument. You think football people can't judge the play of a G or RB unless they have someone as good as Jacoby Brissett at QB? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NewCliche21 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Skinsinparadise said: Josh Dobbs is like, "Wait wat" 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: You think football people can't judge the play of a G or RB unless they have someone as good as Jacoby Brissett at QB? I’d expect at least 100 more reps on tape if Brissett were to play the final 5 games versus Fromme. Edited October 31, 2023 by Ball Security Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins 2021 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Brissett to the browns? I think they have an extra 3rd pick. Edited October 31, 2023 by Redskins 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 39 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: Here's Chase: Fuller: Samuel (whose void year makes the dead cap baked in trade or not): And Brissett: And for completeness' sake, here's Gibson: Now that you've had a chance to take all that in, kindly do the needful: The photo was not needed. Your point was (well) made before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 15 minutes ago, Conn said: (edited quote) I struggle to whip up a family-friendly sentence to describe how they feel towards people who are loudly, confidently wrong while being arrogant. Perhaps I could be of service 👹 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, Jumbo said: Perhaps I could be of service 👹 Sir, this is a Wendy's. Wait... no it's not. Carry on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, MartinC said: The photo was not needed. Your point was (well) made before that. But I like the pictures. We need more pictures and less words. Reading so much is hard stuffs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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