Thinking Skins Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I didn't know if this was worthy of a new thread on this but I was sleeping on this and wanted to discuss it. Who's on the mount Rushmore of local sports coverage. My top two slots go to 1. George Michael 2. Ken Beatrice After that in my opinion there's a huge gap. It could be Kornheiser, but I was never a fan of his cause he hung up on callers, but he was a reporter and radio guy now on TV (and found some possible lies on Ken Beatrice 's resume back in 1981 which I think could have impacted things between them. There's Wilbon, who I did like for a while but I don't know if he's up there. There's Keim, who I really like but is he limited because he does only football? Maybe Steve Buckhantz who started on channel 5 (maybe not started but that's where I was introduced to him) and did bullets games for years. I guess you'd have to mention the sports junkies. They're popular and have longevity. But they're hit and miss for me. But you can't ignore that they've had an impact on things like some of the radio slang and just the culture locally. John Thompson went from coach to radio to tv where he offered a different perspective as Joe Da Fan. Doc Walker isn't for everybody but he's been around since the 80s and is still going strong. Who else? I can't name the 4 I'd put without some uncertainty. Maybe gun to my head I'm going Keim and Buckhantz for those last two. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Wilbon should be disqualified for becoming such a DC hater once he became fully national, and I hate saying this because I used to look for columns from him and Kornheiser all the time back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 - Glenn Brenner - George Michael - Frank Herzog - Tie between a bunch of people 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 For print, Tom Boswell would have to be considered. Brenner had the longevity and died way too young. Old timers would probably mention Warner Wolf too. And it's outrageous that nobody has mentioned "Kiley and the Coach" 🤣 Andy Pollin would have to be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 I'm sad I didn't remember Frank Herzog. I don't know about Thom, but he has the longevity. Pollin is another name I like and has been around a long time and he has a great encyclopedic memory of things. But I thought that as great as he was behind the scenes, was he really a personality that people gravitated towards? I also considered Czabe but thought he didn't have the longevity. But remember I'm doing this from memory and don't have their resume's in front of me, and I'm curious to see who else is named. - Dan Steinberg? - Does James Brown count? - Jim Vance? - Sally Jenkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Thinking about it more, you probably have four categories for the four people: Local sports anchor: George Michael Local print media: Tom Boswell Local radio: Junkies Who would get the fourth would be open to debate. Given the outsize influence of the Redskins, I would probably consider Sonny due to him being the longtime color guy spanning both Frank and Larry, as well as for his longtime appearances on shoes like Redskins Report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted November 10, 2022 Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, hail2skins said: Thinking about it more, you probably have four categories for the four people: Local sports anchor: George Michael Local print media: Tom Boswell Local radio: Junkies Who would get the fourth would be open to debate. Given the outsize influence of the Redskins, I would probably consider Sonny due to him being the longtime color guy spanning both Frank and Larry, as well as for his longtime appearances on shoes like Redskins Report. I can respect that. But I'd put Beatrice above the Junkies every day. As far as the 4th, I'd go for game announcer, and we'd have a choice between Buck and Frank. As much as I love Frank I think I'm going to go with Buck for this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 1. Ken Beatrice... the GENIUS. I have never heard anyone before or since with the breadth of knowledge he had about ANY sport, and instantly could call it up. As far as I'm concerned there has never been a better radio sports show than his. YAW NEXT! 2. Glenn Brenner 3. Frank Herzog, Sonny & Sam (have to be together.) 4. Steve Buckhantz And of course, that guy who did the Bang Radio Hour and now does the Bleeding Burgundy podcast every Monday and Friday at 5. I've heard he's just about the nicest fella, y'know. ~Bang Edited November 10, 2022 by Bang 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 23 minutes ago, Bang said: 1. Ken Beatrice... the GENIUS. I have never heard anyone before or since with the breadth of knowledge he had about ANY sport, and instantly could call it up. As far as I'm concerned there has never been a better radio sports show than his. YAW NEXT! 2. Glenn Brenner 3. Frank Herzog, Sonny & Sam (have to be together.) 4. Steve Buckhantz And of course, that guy who did the Bang Radio Hour and now does the Bleeding Burgundy podcast every Monday and Friday at 5. I've heard he's just about the nicest fella, y'know. ~Bang It's hard to argue with this lineup. I think I might swap Buckhantz with Boswell but I can see the argument for Buckhantz. 2 hours ago, Renegade7 said: Wilbon should be disqualified for becoming such a DC hater once he became fully national, and I hate saying this because I used to look for columns from him and Kornheiser all the time back in the day. As someone who's apathy leans towards not liking DC, this makes Wilbon more endearing to me, not less. I totally get it and embrace it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Thread needs more Phil Chenier love. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) Ken Beatrice (Holding a carton of Arby's curly fries) Frank Herzog Buck George Michael Edited November 10, 2022 by spjunkies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Let's go to the videotape for this. I have Warner Wolf as #3 behind Ken Beatrice & Sonny, Sam & Frank. Wolf was one of the 1st sportscasters to use video highlights in his reporting. Bonus points for Wolf for ripping off the word "Plantation" on the sign for his community because he thought it was racist. Oh, and he was in his 80s when he did it. Legendary New York broadcaster Warner Wolf was arrested in Florida for defacing property in his gated community, TMZ reports. Wolf had lobbied the homeowners association to remove the word “plantation” — which he found offensive — from the name of the community: Classic Plantation Estates. When his arguments fell on deaf ears, Wolf — according to the police report — removed the word himself from the sign, which hung above a water fountain. https://nypost.com/2019/02/08/legendary-sportscaster-warner-wolf-arrested-over-gated-community-sign/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: As someone who's apathy leans towards not liking DC, this makes Wilbon more endearing to me, not less. I totally get it and embrace it. I remember one time watching PTI one day recently and Wilbon jus took it too far, came after WaPo and even Tony called him out causing an immediate backtrack... I never bought into the "he's trying to seem impartial now" defense because reading between the lines even when he wrote columns for them you could tell he was reporting on the DC teams, not adopting them, and was still Chicago through and through. Edited November 10, 2022 by Renegade7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I would never put Wilbon on the list after his comments about Sean Taylor’s passing. Warner Wolf. I remember him on Channel 9 after Glenn Brenner passed away. But he wasn’t there all that long fro what I remember. Did he have another local impact? George Michael Ken Beatrice (by reputation for me, not familiar with his work) Sonny, Sam, and Frank Boswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 15 minutes ago, Renegade7 said: I remember one time watching PTI one day recently and Wilbon jus took it too far, came after WaPo and even Tony called him out causing an immediate backtrack... I never bought into the "he's trying to seem impartial now" defense because reading between the lines even when he wrote columns for them you could tell he was reporting on the DC teams, not adopting them, and was still Chicago through and through. That's fine, I don't begrudge him for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balki1867 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I left DMV in the late 90s for college, so my picks are going to be skewed, that said: 1) Tony Kornheiser 2) George Michael 3) Ken Beatrice 4) Glen Brenner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Bang said: And of course, that guy who did the Bang Radio Hour and now does the Bleeding Burgundy podcast every Monday and Friday at 5. I've heard he's just about the nicest fella, y'know. And humble...don't forget humble lol... 👍 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 51 minutes ago, Ball Security said: Warner Wolf. I remember him on Channel 9 after Glenn Brenner passed away. But he wasn’t there all that long fro what I remember. Did he have another local impact? Wolf was at 9 in the early to mid 70s and left for NYC. Glenn replaced him and had his long run, and then Wolf came back for a while after that. Also appalling there's no Rene Knott or Bernie Smilowicz love in here 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, EmirOfShmo said: Let's go to the videotape for this. I have Warner Wolf as #3 behind Ken Beatrice & Sonny, Sam & Frank. Wolf was one of the 1st sportscasters to use video highlights in his reporting. Bonus points for Wolf for ripping off the word "Plantation" on the sign for his community because he thought it was racist. Oh, and he was in his 80s when he did it. Legendary New York broadcaster Warner Wolf was arrested in Florida for defacing property in his gated community, TMZ reports. Wolf had lobbied the homeowners association to remove the word “plantation” — which he found offensive — from the name of the community: Classic Plantation Estates. When his arguments fell on deaf ears, Wolf — according to the police report — removed the word himself from the sign, which hung above a water fountain. https://nypost.com/2019/02/08/legendary-sportscaster-warner-wolf-arrested-over-gated-community-sign/ Plus Wolf's from DC. He's associated more with NY obviously but he grew up in DC. Even showed up in Rocky IV to help save America from the commies. 🤓 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: - Glenn Brenner - George Michael - Frank Herzog - Tie between a bunch of people Glenn Brenner Shirley Povich George Michael Tom Boswell 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Are play by play/color commentators considered media? George Michael and Tom Boswell are absolute musts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswillwin06 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) Beninati/Laughlin should be an honorable mention at least. 25 years is a damn long time. And they are fantastic. Charlie Slowes and Dave Jageler have been together 16 years and are phenomenal as well. Slowes used to call the Bullets also. Edited November 10, 2022 by skinswillwin06 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Can we also do Bizzarro Mount Rushmore (AKA the Hall of Shame)? Mike Wise The fat guy that does talk radio, that had a show with Lavar Arrington Rob Dibble Post 2000 Tony Kornheiser (with apologies to post 2000 Michael Wilbon, but this is a list of DC people) 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Are play by play/color commentators considered media? Like Larry Michael? 🤭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 An older one everybody seems to have forgotten: Shirley Povich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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