spjunkies Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Should be interesting to see how this will play out. The investment on fixing the franchise will be a big blow, but the return in a few years will be massive in a few years if things are structured correctly. I know people think that waiting on Seattle is the way to go, but they simply can't compete with what the Washington area has to offer, it would be a step down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 we got the definitive word piping in about Bezos, says 3:1 shot. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: He made out by buying out his minority partners for sure. No one else could have done that deal. He got rewarded for being a vile despicable little man by using the team as his piggy bank. Yet the NFL still backed him. His irrationality and vindictiveness have also helped him in this sale. People are apparently willing to pay more than their valuation of the team because they don’t think he’s rational. He is walking away with billions he would not otherwise have if not for his personality. That’s the sickening truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderInTheRye Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) Dan makes his final solicitation to Bezos with all the dignity he is known for, hoping beyond hope that it results in the bid of his dreams... Snyder: "I was wrong to exclude you from bidding! That was all on Tanya but I'm taking over now! You had absolutely nothing to do with those Post articles, please forgive me! You have changed my life; I promise to abide by whatever your Alexa demon says and I'll exclusively buy things on Amazon Prime from now on! I'm so sorry for all the bad things I was coerced to say and think about you; that Tanya lady put me up to it! I am a pathetic weak little insignificant weasel just like you said! You are a wise and powerfully fertile man who is owed respect by the likes of hapless losers like myself. Mister Bezos will you please show mercy on this poor misguided soul by making a nice big juicy bid, slightly over $6 billion dollars, as a benevolent gesture and proof of your magnificence ?" Bezos casually responds... Edited March 31, 2023 by CommanderInTheRye 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) I believe there was already news about the signing bonuses being pushed back to May on places like PFT, but it sucks to hear we may have to wait longer for the sale. Here's hoping it's not October like other reports Edited March 31, 2023 by NoVaSkins21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, SoCalSkins said: No one else could have done that deal. He got rewarded for being a vile despicable little man by using the team as his piggy bank. Yet the NFL still backed him. His irrationality and vindictiveness have also helped him in this sale. People are apparently willing to pay more than their valuation of the team because they don’t think he’s rational. He is walking away with billions he would not otherwise have if not for his personality. That’s the sickening truth. From a pure money standpoint in the context of the sale. I think yes and no. Yes, from the standpoint like you say here his vindictiveness pushes the NFL to stay out of his way and prospective buyers would buy that he's stubborn. Doing the best financially from the context of digging himself out of his own hole, he's likely done good. But I can't ignore the hole itself that he dug. He basically took Pepsi and turned it into a poor man's RC Cola. Yeah he is still making a bundle because people drink a ton of cola but his management both IMO cost him the team he loved and as much as he's still making a heck of a windfall, he would have made a lot more if he kept this as Pepsi. I am not talking about the name but the brand of this franchise. To use English Premier League terms we were once in the mix of the big clubs-brands -- United, LFC, Arsenal etc -- but now we are just name that run of the mill brand like lets say Crystal Palace. That's Dan's legacy and heck yeah I think it both cost him the team and money -- even though he still comes out mega rich. So no, from the perspective that he took the most valuable franchise in the world, and took that train wildly off the tracks where if he ran this team well versus incompetently he'd be in miles better shape. If he did well, he could both run his cherished team without losing it and ultimately sell it for an even bigger price than he will get for it now. Early on in his tenure, this organization and the Cowboys were neck and neck as to making money and as to national relevance. Now it would be a joke to compare the two teams -- financially, relevance, etc. Heck I see Giant fans on twitter saying hey if Washington is worth 6 billion, what is this team (the Giants worth) now 8 billion? And they have media people concurring with them. That was not the case when Dan had the team early on. His incompetence and douche behavior is part of the whole demise of his chances to get a stadium which some say was the kicker for him wanting to sell -- Virginia went from talking about giving over a billion dollars of funding -- to then 300 million to then not giving even a single dime because multiple politicians said they got so much pushback from their constituents who wanted nothing to do to help this toxic owner. As for Bezos, you seem convinced that nothing will stop him from bidding on this team and Dan's antics on this mean nothing -- and Bezos just shrugs it off and ignores it -- not saying you are wrong, not saying you are right, I don't know. But if Bezos ends up not bidding in part because of all the negativity coming out initially about him bidding -- where Bezos decides screw that weasel -- then Dan played it wrong. But will see. Edited March 31, 2023 by Skinsinparadise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: but now we are just name that run of the mill brand like lets say Crystal Palace. Dear God - it should come to this! Crystal Palace ... Actually we are more like my team, Leeds United. A great team winning and competing for championships in the distant past and now clinging on to relevance and hoping new ownership (the 49ers are minority owners of Leeds and are strongly tipped to do a full takeover this summer) and investment will make them relevant again. I'm the link between the two - maybe its me?? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) Steve Apostolopoulos is “confident” in his effort to acquire the Washington Commanders, a business associate of the Canadian businessman told Front Office Sports on Friday. Apostolopoulos, a Toronto native who is part of one of Canada’s wealthiest families, has been linked to purchasing then Commanders, Charlotte Hornets, and, most recently, the Ottawa Senators over the last two weeks. Front Office Sports could not obtain a clear picture of Apostolopoulos’ net worth, which would need to be sizable to acquire the Commanders. ESPN reported Tuesday that Apostolopoulos “submitted a fully funded $6 billion offer for the Commanders.” Shortly after that ESPN report, a source knowledgeable of the process told FOS that Josh Harris’ group is the only bidder with the necessary financial resources to purchase the Commanders. “Steve is confident in his position, offer, and finances,” Apostolopoulos’s business associate said. ...For a $6 billion bid, Apostolopoulos would have to have $1.8 billion in cash as part of the purchase per NFL rules. While it’s unclear what his personal net worth is, his family’s net worth was reported at around $3 billion in U.S. currency when his father, Andreas Apostolopoulos, died at 69 in 2021. ...Apostolopoulos and his siblings are also the driving force behind a 40-acre development outside Toronto that includes the Pickering Casino Resort. The massive Durham Live is anchored by the casino, which opened in January 2021. There are no known partners for Apostolopoulos’ bid for the Commanders. Sources told FOS Bank of America had vetted Apostolopoulos’ bid, the firm Commanders owner Dan Snyder tapped to lead the potential sales process in November. Harris — whose ownership group includes fellow billionaire Mithcell Rales and NBA legend Magic Johnson — has submitted a bid of slightly less than $6 billion. Amazon founder Steve Bezos hasn’t bid as of Thursday evening, a source told FOS. While it’s unclear if the world’s third-richest human will make a bid, there are indications Bezos and his reps are still monitoring the process. Edited March 31, 2023 by Skinsinparadise 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Amazon founder Steve Bezos hasn’t bid as of Thursday evening, I'd hope Steve Bezos has not put in a bid. What a tease that would be. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: I'd hope Steve Bezos has not put in a bid. What a tease that would be. You should try to google Steeve Bezos. The result is kinda funny, really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Snyder screwing things up with Bezos is as hilarious as it was inevitable. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Whoa. Sports illustrated really bent over backwards for this piece of clickbait. RG3 as a minority owner? Not spicy enough RG3 in some FO position? Needs more pizazz. Board guy at SI: I've got it! Robert Griffin III In Charge of Commanders When Dan Snyder Sells? https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/robert-griffin-iii-in-charge-of-commanders-when-dan-snyder-sells-washington-new-owners I'm dying over here. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Head Commander RG3 LET'S GOOOO!!!! No pressure, no diamonds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, FootballZombie said: Whoa. Sports illustrated really bent over backwards for this piece of clickbait. RG3 as a minority owner? Not spicy enough RG3 in some FO position? Needs more pizazz. Board guy at SI: I've got it! Robert Griffin III In Charge of Commanders When Dan Snyder Sells? https://www.si.com/nfl/commanders/news/robert-griffin-iii-in-charge-of-commanders-when-dan-snyder-sells-washington-new-owners I'm dying over here. The dude has been reading my posts here on Harris. 100%. He’s trying to one up me. I was willing to go as far as RG3 will be involved in personnel but Harris is not dumb enough to put him in complete control. The SI guy. Nope he is plenty dumb enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Just realized we're heading towards April Fool's tomorrow, stay vigilant people... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I actually agree with @SoCalSkins on pretty much everything *except* Bezos undeniably wanting this team specifically. He may have backchanneled with Seahawks ownership to get clarity on where they're at. Buying the Commies is a fixer-upper. Buying the Seahawks will be turn-key. Buying the Commies will likely require overpayment. Buying the Seahawks, even if the sticker price is just as high or higher, may be better value. If Bezos wants the Commies, they're his. I'm not sure whether he wants this team specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bifflog Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: Buying the Seahawks, even if the sticker price is just as high or higher, may be better value. It will be much higher just by virtue of being later. Another reason in the plus column to not wait on buying, the number just keep ballooning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 25 minutes ago, spjunkies said: Head Commander RG3 LET'S GOOOO!!!! No pressure, no diamonds Bobby Three Sticks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 (edited) That's exactly what someone angling to get the numbies on the back of my card would do. Another one. ...Man I luv this gif Edited March 31, 2023 by FootballZombie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 10 minutes ago, CapsSkins said: I actually agree with @SoCalSkins on pretty much everything *except* Bezos undeniably wanting this team specifically. He may have backchanneled with Seahawks ownership to get clarity on where they're at. Buying the Commies is a fixer-upper. Buying the Seahawks will be turn-key. Buying the Commies will likely require overpayment. Buying the Seahawks, even if the sticker price is just as high or higher, may be better value. If Bezos wants the Commies, they're his. I'm not sure whether he wants this team specifically. He wouldn’t have tried to buy 40% previously and wouldn’t have brought Jay Z in with him if he wasn’t serious about Washington. He is all about getting connected inside Washington. Seattle can’t offer it. This is his plan: https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/01/27/jeff-bezos-dc-mansion-has-made-its-social-debut/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapsSkins Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 He's already connected inside Washington because of his Kalorama mansion and the fact he owns the Post. I don't doubt he had some level of interest at some point in time. But he could do basically anything with his money. We're biased because we're all die-hard fans of the team. He may not care as much. Or maybe he does. It's hard to say. I've mentioned here before, I used to help run the family office of an A-list "billionaire mogul" celebrity. This individual had things they were "interested" in, and things they were interested in. And a lot of times people on the outside speculated wrong on how much a priority something was or wasn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 minute ago, CapsSkins said: He's already connected inside Washington because of his Kalorama mansion and the fact he owns the Post. I don't doubt he had some level of interest at some point in time. But he could do basically anything with his money. We're biased because we're all die-hard fans of the team. He may not care as much. Or maybe he does. It's hard to say. I've mentioned here before, I used to help run the family office of an A-list "billionaire mogul" celebrity. This individual had things they were "interested" in, and things they were interested in. And a lot of times people on the outside speculated wrong on how much a priority something was or wasn't. If that’s correct then why did he try to buy 40% of this team 2 years ago and didn’t even kick the tires on the Broncos? Lauren Sanchez wants him to buy it. He’s gonna buy it. This is the home stretch regardless so we should know soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodpecker Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 Just now, SoCalSkins said: If that’s correct then why did he try to buy 40% of this team 2 years ago and didn’t even kick the tires on the Broncos? Lauren Sanchez wants him to buy it. He’s gonna buy it. This is the home stretch regardless so we should know soon. Just curious… If he tried to buy 40% two years ago, why didn’t he get it? Also, are you telling me he wanted to be a minority partner to Snyder? If so red flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 1 minute ago, woodpecker said: Just curious… If he tried to buy 40% two years ago, why didn’t he get it? Also, are you telling me he wanted to be a minority partner to Snyder? If so red flag. Dan had right of first refusal and was unwilling to open up any of the books to any new minority investors. It ended up in arbitration between Fred Smith, Dwight Schar and Dan and the NFL sided with Dan. The NFL gave Dan a debt waiver and buried the Wilkerson report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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