Do you think Dan Snyder is broke?

[sebestian]

These types of problems I can deal with.  I figure their is worse problems.  Just sell the freakin team you backside of horse!!

[88Comrade2000]

53 minutes ago, Zim489 said:

The NFL cares the most about stadiums. If Dan cant get the stadium done I think the NFL forces him out. Its really the only thing the fan base has to look forward to. Well besides Dan dying 

If they force him out over not being able to get a stadium; you are going to have to wait a long time.  
 

I’d say the odds are better for Dan relocating than the nfl forcing him out because he can’t build a new stadium.

 

You think the nfl would not leave D.C.?  They left LA. 
 

If St Louis, San Diego, Portland, Toronto, etc.. offer to build Dan his stadium; Dan would hop on it, if his efforts here remain fruitless.

 

The nfl will say those dc football Fans can root for Baltimore.

Edited May 18, 2022 by 88Comrade2000

[spjunkies]

23 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said:

If they force him out over not being able to get a stadium; you are going to have to wait a long time.  
 

I’d say the odds are better for Dan relocating than the nfl forcing him out because he can’t build a new stadium.

 

You think the nfl would not leave D.C.?  They left LA. 
 

If St Louis, San Diego, Portland, Toronto, etc.. offer to build Dan his stadium; Dan would hop on it, if his efforts here remain fruitless.

 

The nfl will say those dc football Fans can root for Baltimore.

 

Hopefully one of those cities take them, it would be a dream come true. 

[smooth]

i dont think he broke! 

[CommanderInTheRye]

Some, like boot lickin' Jason Wright, contend the money Danny's spending on FedEx improvements is proof beyond a doubt that he's flush and generous with his cash...

 

 

So this morning I called up the "Command and Control fan hotline" (that's the spiffy new customer friendly name for their PR dept.) to find out exactly what some of these improvements were.

 

While the rep I spoke with said that they're waiting to make a formal announcement later in the off season. She did slip up and "leak" at least one new improvement sure to excite fans...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They're installing coin operated sewer water showers in their new upgraded "Clean Seats" vip section. They expect it to be more of a hit with hardcore fans than the "Dream Seats" were.

 

The new marketing slogan: "Now you don't have to wait until you get home to wash off the stench of another FedEx Field loss."

 

She also explained that last year Snyder became so angry watching video of fans showerd in sewer water that he immediately decreed, "No more free showers! My water bill is outrageous. Next year the scum must pay for this service! Make them wet and squeeze them dry I say sqeeeeeze them dry indeed...ha ha ha ha. I am such a genious, am I not!"

 

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Edited May 18, 2022 by CommanderInTheRye

[BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen]

19 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

Some, like boot lickin' Jason Wright, contend the money Danny's spending on FedEx improvements is proof beyond a doubt that he's flush and generous with his cash...

 

 

 

Awesome upgrades? How much you wanna bet that they forget to fix this:

 

 

[CommanderInTheRye]

28 minutes ago, BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen said:

 

Awesome upgrades? How much you wanna bet that they forget to fix this:

 

 

 

 

You mean the "QDG" or quick departure gate?

 

They were installed for the exclusive use of handicapped patrons, custom designed by Dan and Tanya (proving once again that the Snyders care) to get them out of the stadium expeditiously after games so they wouldn't waste time trying to force their way through crowds.

 

Snyder "Commanded" Jason Wright submit the design for an award to Architectural digest last year.

 

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by CommanderInTheRye

[Skinsinparadise]

1 hour ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

 

 

You mean the "QDG" or quick departure gate?

 

They were installed for the exclusive use of handicapped patrons, custom designed by Dan and Tanya (proving once again that the Snyders care) to get them out of the stadium expeditiously after games so they wouldn't waste time trying to force their way through crowds.

 

Snyder "Commanded" Jason Wright submit the design for an award to Architectural digest last year.

 

 

 

I needed a good laugh this morning, great post. 

[Skinsinparadise]

16 hours ago, CapsSkins said:

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2) Often times the richer the person, the cheaper / stingier they are.

 

3) Sometimes these people will spend super lavishly in one area and then simultaneously cry poor in another area. 

 

I don't know what Snyder's financial picture looks like. But I wouldn't be surprised if he's either cash poor or has decided to limit the cash expense on the team

 

I work with wealthy people quite a bit too.  Your point #3 i see a lot.  They will haggle over peanuts on some expenses and are really cheap as heck on some really odd stuff -- cheaper than the typical middle class person i know and then on other fronts spend lavishly.  i find the same thing in my experiences. 

[samy316]

I think his finances are tied up to whatever he has to pay for a new stadium.  Lord knows that the taxpayers in DC/MD/VA won't give him a cent more than they have to in bonds.  5 months ago, it was looking like we would receive news soon on where the stadium would be built, but with everything that's happened since the offseason began, it's beginning to look like we'll be at Fed-Ex Field beyond 2027, and that no municipality will want this horror show of an organization playing it's games there.  I wonder how long Snyder can hold out as far as keeping his checkbook closed and his expenses minimal?  Eventually he's got to realize that the fanbase will be pissed off at him for not opening his wallet to make the team better.  He's got to find out soon if this stadium deal will even still happen.

 

We used to be terrible, but we would open our wallets to get anybody we could.  Now we're terrible AND cheap.  Things can't get worse when you're a loser organization and cheap at the same time.  At least when we used to spend money, it would captivate the local and national audience.

Edited May 18, 2022 by samy316

[Hooper]

There is clearly something going on. 

 

The team implying Bradberry cost too much -- when it cost very little in the grand scheme of things -- is just the latest piece of evidence.

 

So our terrible owner who used to be able to at least throw around cash to overpay players and convince them to come here... is now no longer capable of even that.

 

It really is amazing how just when you think Danny can't become any less terrible... he comes coming up with new ways!

 

 

[Peregrine]

Broke for a normal person? No.  Broke for an NFL owner.  Yes.

[SkinsFTW]

It's possible that he (Doofus Dan) knows that he isn't getting a stadium and also knows that it'll be impossible to get the fans to come back. Therefore, he's just going cheap to use all the free NFL money to pay off the loan from the NFL so he can later sell the team for maximum profit. 

 

Or maybe he's just going to be like the old Cardinals and Bengals owners and be a cheapskate from now on since it's no longer the Redskins. Maybe he doesn't give a **** anymore, like most actual Redskins fans. 

[veteranskinsfan]

Just read the Eagles signed James Bradberry.  In the old days Snyder would have signed him before the Eagles could get him so its likely that

he is having financial issues.  I do not think its just Ron being careful who they sign and being frugal.

[CommanderInTheRye]

Hey I just had a light flash of insight go off in my head or it could be my diabetic retinopathy acting up again-- you be the judge.

 

Could Danny's recent streak of overly excessive frugality be a sign that maybe, (fingers, toes, eyes and old man drooping like a slinky toy balls crossed) just maybe, the evil bugger is considering selling this dilapidated fixer upper of a beat down to the ground franchise and he doesn't want to put one more dime, than absolutely necessary, into this money pit before he unloads it???

 

Please....

[SkinsFTW]

17 minutes ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

Hey I just had a light flash of insight go off in my head or it could be my diabetic retinopathy acting up again-- you be the judge.

 

Could Danny's recent streak of overly excessive frugality be a sign that maybe, (fingers, toes, eyes and old man drooping like a slinky toy balls crossed) just maybe, the evil bugger is considering selling this dilapidated fixer upper of a beat down to the ground franchise and he doesn't want to put one more dime, than absolutely necessary, into this money pit before he unloads it???

 

Please....

Well, that's pretty much the exact same thing I said 2 posts before yours lol, so yeah maybe it's possible.

[CommanderInTheRye]

6 minutes ago, SkinsFTW said:

Well, that's pretty much the exact same thing I said 2 posts before yours lol, so yeah maybe it's possible.

 

 

It's always nice to get a positive response. lol

 

Seriously @SkinsFTW I got a notifucation that someone responded to my post. In this case it was Skins In Paradise. I clicked on it and read his response and then posted what I thought was an original idea without reading anything else.

 

Then I went off to a different corner of the internet.

 

I can assure you that I am not so bereft of vision that I would essentially plagarize someone else's idea-- THAT'S ON THE SAME PAGE-- as good as it was.

 

 

[BatteredFanSyndrome]

I will not be at all surprised when soon after the Ron Rivera era ends, we start getting all the tea on how Dan negatively impacted Ron’s ability to do his job even though he has “full control”.

[veteranskinsfan]

Just heard from Chris Russell on the radio that a lot of rumors out there that the Danny does not have as much liquid cash that other NFL owners have and that

could be why Commanders did not go after Bradberry. Guaranteed signing bonuses would require the owner to pony up.  They do not get the Landon Collins money back until after June 1 so Bradberry could take the Eagles offer and not wait on the Commanders.

[Voice_of_Reason]

1 hour ago, veteranskinsfan said:

Just heard from Chris Russell on the radio that a lot of rumors out there that the Danny does not have as much liquid cash that other NFL owners have and that

could be why Commanders did not go after Bradberry. Guaranteed signing bonuses would require the owner to pony up.  They do not get the Landon Collins money back until after June 1 so Bradberry could take the Eagles offer and not wait on the Commanders.

1. Chris Russell is a know nothing, loud mouth, no current sources ass hat who has no idea what he’s talking about.  He tried to sell us that Joe Barry and Manusky were good coaches, said he would quit if the team signed DJax, and just spreads rumors and lies.  While taking massive pregnant pauses at the most unusual times. 
 

2.  The rumors he’s referring to are probably created by Standig, JP, and others who are speculating and have no idea.  Though Standig has said it enough I do wonder if he might have some information.  But he hasn’t reported it, just speculated about it.

 

3. The June 1st thing is a cap thing and has nothing to do with cash flow. They’re not getting any money back in June 1.  It just defers half of the dead cap hit to 2023.  There is no impact on cash.  
 

All this to say, nobody but the Snyder’s and probably the Commander’s CFO  knows Dan AND the Team’s cash situation. 
 

But don’t believe rumors ir anything Russell says.  Ever.  He’s entertainment, not information. (At least since his last source, Eric Schaffer was shown the door.  You can always tell who his sources are because he defends them and the. Throws a hissy fit when they are fired.)

2 hours ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

I will not be at all surprised when soon after the Ron Rivera era ends, we start getting all the tea on how Dan negatively impacted Ron’s ability to do his job even though he has “full control”.

If I was Ron, even if there wasn’t a shred of truth to it, I would put that out there.  Because everybody will believe it no matter what.  It would be good PR for him regardless.

 

And I’m not saying it isn’t true. I have no idea. I kindof don’t think it is, but if it was, I wouldn’t die of shock.
 

But I’d put it out there no matter what.  Hell, I’d release it now through a source.  

[BatteredFanSyndrome]

9 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

And I’m not saying it isn’t true. I have no idea. I kindof don’t think it is, but if it was, I wouldn’t die of shock.

I’m not necessarily referring to Dan standing on tables in the war room saying to draft X player or anything like that.

 

On the lowest level, Dan’s wrongdoing at minimum hinder Ron’s ability to coach the team because he’s constantly dealing with the fallout of Dan’s drama.

 

But I’m sure there are other things directly or indirectly related to Dan that make his job harder than it needs to be.

 

I have no idea how much truth there is to Dan’s lack of liquidity hindering our ability to make moves, but that would certainly be another example of Dan causing problems without forcing moves on the coach.

 

 

[Skinsinparadise]

15 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

 

All this to say, nobody but the Snyder’s and probably the Commander’s CFO  knows Dan AND the Team’s cash situation. 

 

That's true.  But...

 

You got almost everyone now in the local media speculating on the same issue, its not just Standig even more.  Breer referenced it albeit not directly but talked about owners liking to hold on to their money for as long as possible in referencing the McLaurin situation. Even Bram (who I recall you like) and Keim speculated a lttle about cash flow with Dan in the context of why he's not as aggressive as some other teams as far as making moves now to punt more on the cap later -- reason being front loading acquistions now require more cash flow.  A PFF cap specialist guy today speculated on the same point and also referenced cash flow.  It's not that i don't think that Ron genuinely wants to keep the cap sound for future years but it wouldn't shock me if maybe he was limited from making a move or two that he otherwise would make in a season that he himself has billed more or less as much win season.

 

For years, here and there some stragglers would say we are too hard on Dan and he deserves more of the benefit of the doubt and his transgressions unfairly made people believe a more negative bent on name that issue than they should have.  And he deserves a break where we don't always guess the worst explanation to something tied to him. 

 

I recall the arguments well.  And some were really passionate about making that case.  Some people these days say that never happened.  But it did.  I recall the arguments well, they were hard to forget because those discussions often got testy. 😧. My point is i've learned to bet on not giving Dan the benefit of the doubt.  Things actually tend to be worse than we think when stuff comes out later -- let alone they end up not as bad as we think.   The last era I had the approach of I am not going to bet on the worst relating to Dan was the Shanny era.  After being burned by that, i was done with Dan.   My thought about him isn't hey its probably better than it looks.  I think its typically more likely worse.

 

Not that cash flow one way or another makes Dan a bad guy.  That's finances.  But yeah the fact that Dan has few friends in government and by extension might have to pony up billions for a stadium without much financing help or may have to delay the whole thing and stay at Fedex later than intended -- could be a factor.  The fact that he took out an 875 billion dollar loan to buy out his minority partners -- could be a factor.  And by some accounts he doesn't have much going for him with outside businesses where he might not have much cash flow outside of the team -- could be a factor.  You add that all up and maybe Dan might not have the cash flow he typically has.  it doesn't seem like a crazy deduction. 

 

I am not saying it can't be all BS.  But there is plenty of smoke to this where its fair to at least speculate IMO.  

[CommanderInTheRye]

2 hours ago, veteranskinsfan said:

Just heard from Chris Russell on the radio that a lot of rumors out there that the Danny does not have as much liquid cash that other NFL owners have and that

could be why Commanders did not go after Bradberry. Guaranteed signing bonuses would require the owner to pony up.  They do not get the Landon Collins money back until after June 1 so Bradberry could take the Eagles offer and not wait on the Commanders.

 

Once upon a time in the wild wild west playing poker I made and to be honest, later lost, with poorly timed investments ("I'm telling ya Mabel laser discs and Betamax vcrs are the wave of the future!") a small fortune.

 

So forgive me for another poker analogy:

 

Compared to the other owners Dan is like scared money sitting down at a table filled with sharks.

 

Scared money can get lucky and win some hands but in the long run it will never beat a master at the table.

 

 

 

 

Opponent: "Hey Dan. It's really simple. You got three choices call, raise or fold. What's it gonna be sucker?"

 

Snyder: (teeth chattering) "Uhhh wa wa wa wa uhm err uhh goo goo ga ga.."

[Voice_of_Reason]

2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

You got almost everyone now in the local media speculating on the same issue, its not just Standig even more. 

Yeah but If you follow the breadcrumbs, I think it al goes back to Standig, and all the other media folks are riffing off of it.  
 

Look, I have no idea.  I absolutely could believe your theory that Snyder has a ton of cash expenses, paying off the loan, new stadium, etc.  And so he’s conserving cash. That theory holds water.

 

If you told me he was taking a bigger draw of team profits to pay down his loan, I’d would hear you out on that.  
 

I guess my point is, nobody I’ve heard has actually REPORTED that Snyder has told Ron he’s in a budget.  And they just went out and signed a guy they have to pay $28M cash this year.  
 

So I think the speculation kindof feeds into the “cycle of negativity.”  Its not helpful.  And we don’t know it to be true.  
 

It could be true.  It also could not be true.  We really don’t know.  
 

And I guess I’m not really defending Dan.  And I’m not really giving him the benefit of the doubt. I just don’t know.  And I choose not to speculate.  
 

Now, if they don’t get deals done with Terry and Holcomb, I think that will be more evidence the team is being cheap for some reason, and then we can go from there.

 

Until then, I know Ton has said they want to allocate the money to pay Terry, Possibly Payne, Sweat and Young in the next several years, so they do t want to push money out which will make that more difficult.  
 

Part of me sees the logic in that, part of me says if they wanted to, they could manipulate the cap to sign those guys AND be more aggressive. 
 

For now, to me, the football explanation holds some water.  So I am just waiting and seeing what happens.  If they get a deal done with Terry before TC, then they will have spent somewhere north of $30M on a Terry signing bonus and $28M on Wentz, and my personal opinion will be its More Ron being cautious than Dan holding him back.  
 

If they don’t, all hell will break lose.  

 

 

[markmills67]

Didn't Rivera say we were all in for 22/23, if he is not what's the point in signing Wentz for 28m cap figure. Plus isn't waiting to give new contracts to McClaurin and Payne going to cost more, because there is now a difference of about 5 to 7m with signing McClaurin now to what it would have cost earlier in the off-season?. In my opinion Rivera wants/needs to win now but Snyder has pulled the plug on Big Signings. The McClaurin new deal has Got to happen before camp or all hell will break loose in our Commanders fan base.