dunfer Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I had a feeling wed get wentz. I think he can play. Just needs to get his head straight 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, dunfer said: Just needs to get his head straight It's legal in DC now. Here all day, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I don't hate this move. The skins had to do something, and if they had struck out for carr they probably would have ended up reaching for a quarterback in April. I'd much rather overpay wentz salary wise, than waste another first round pick on a QB bust. I just hope his foot and ankle injuries from this past year don't linger into next year. I also don't understand his consistency issues, he was a legit MVP candidate the year that they won the super Bowl before he got hurt and the next year he was bad enough that they shipped him out. Solid the first half of this year, and then he was awful late in the year. And he had the best oline he will ever have this past year in Indy, can he still be successful with an inferior line. His personality is the least of my concerns. If he is playing well that won't be an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86 Snyder Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: I was over the moon excited thinking we had a second 2nd rounder, then I read better after you all yelled at me and I cooled off, but I am beyond excited again. This is a huge win for us. LOL. This is the Alex Smith trade all over again except with a worse QB. Use up all cap space, sit out free agency, give up valuable draft picks for a guy who go can’t help but win 6-8 games, thereby cementing a draft slot that falls short of the top QBs in a good draft. Wash, rinse, repeat. This fan base never, ever learns. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, skinzplay said: It's legal in DC now. Here all day, folks. thats a pot joke right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oraphus Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 The more i think about it ... i am warming up to the scenario. Simply put there were no options this year that were better, out of what was left. 28m for a mid level starting QB in this league is not bad. Plus the guy has a cannon, that means higher potential to bring in FA WR if they chose. Two 3rds is cheap... and colts were never going to cut hit outright. Trubisky will probably get 15m+ so 28 for wentz will look like a deal. Trubisky, mariota, Winston - major question marks Jimmy G - many ???, inj prone, coming off surgery, will cost more in pics. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbothwel Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Peregrine said: The biggest issue is the team just gave up a 3rd and 2nd next year, for a guy they could have signed for free when they cut him. And paid him 28 million instead of 10 million, and left the team with no cap space to improve other areas. Basically the usual from this FO, throw extra money and picks around and end up with your high earners being players like Collins and Samuel. Look, people really need to stop making these financial assumptions about a QB market that has shown anything but 'reasonable' in the early going. Free Agency: Jimmy G and Mitch will give us a better idea of the market. Wentz is clearly a step up from both of them, but it helps. Extension: Rogers just got 50M/year and Wilson is going to get a TON from Denver. Carr, Murray, Jackson, Mayfield are all up for extensions, and would not be surprised of LA did something with Stafford too. We really dont know the market yet, but there will be 10+ QBs this year making more than Wentz and 15+ QBs next year. We should not be in any rush to consider this a 1 year Prove It deal. If he 'Proves it' then we should hold on to him assuming we dont draft a QB. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAATopDogg Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I like this trade. We don’t have to mortgage our future draft capital. We swapped 2nd rounders. Wentz threw for 3500 yards on 63 percent passing last year, 27 TDs vs just 7 INTs. We can either trade down for a future 2023 first round pick, Draft a QB with the 11th pick, or take another position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetMeSeeYourWarFace21 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Im going back to the Russia vs Ukraine war thread. This is too depressing....... 1 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zim489 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 It just keeps getting better 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I hate that we let them off the hook salary wise. Why are we always bailing other teams out? We already giving them picks. Make them pony up at least some of the dough. No matter what we're just always really bad at trades. I wish Mike Rizzo ran this FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I'm very "meh" on this deal. He's still relatively young and is certainly talented but I'm less worried about his football capabilities (though is meltdown at the end of the season was...pretty bad) and more about personality. He got a reputation with both the Eagles and Colts for being a whiny diva and locker room cancer who other players didn't like. 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillBill26 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Zim489 said: It just keeps getting better Skins definitely overpaid. If they are giving two 3rds, then the colts eat salary. If skins pay whole salary, then 4th and 6th picks are more appropriate. But the skins paid both premiums. I can understand being aggressive in the Russell Wilson sweepstakes, and the frustration that follows after losing out, but if they had lost the Carson Wentz sweepstakes, that's not a punch to the gut, more like an oh well. But we all knew if the skins were going to upgrade at QB, they'd have to overpay. I don't hate the move. If Wentz plays his average type year, even with TH filling in for a couple games, that's a big upgrade for us. At the most important position. Without sacrificing a first rounder, net loss of 2 day 2 picks. I can live with that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, mistertim said: I'm very "meh" on this deal. He's still relatively young and is certainly talented but I'm less worried about his football capabilities (though is meltdown at the end of the season was...pretty bad) and more about personality. He got a reputation with both the Eagles and Colts for being a whiny diva and locker room cancer who other players didn't like. Ron can manage divas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Commander-in-Chief Wentzington. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Zim489 said: It just keeps getting better Been better off trying to pry Carr from LV or signing Winston or Mariota for a year and drafting a player. We have no 5th round pick this year. I expect us to trade down at least once, maybe twice in this draft. Edited March 9, 2022 by RWJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 We’re going to the playoffs. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, TradeTheBeal! said: We’re going to the playoffs. You spelled it wrong 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, TradeTheBeal! said: We’re going to the playoffs. And then going home after losing in the first round of playoffs. But hey we got Wentz. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Correct me if I'm wrong but 20 mil a season is pretty affordable right? Still in the process of talking myself into it. As long as the money is right and we grab a young guy in the draft im good with it I think. I would be pretty ho hum if we don't get a young guy though. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, TradeTheBeal! said: We’re going to the playoffs. I think this makes us a legit contender. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max21 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Hahah idk if I should cry or laugh! Haha **** it time for more margaritas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdlives Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) I’ve yet to like a trade for QB we’ve made under Snyder and apparently I’m not starting now. I’d rather have the 2 3rd round picks. Edited March 9, 2022 by Birdlives 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Llevron said: Correct me if I'm wrong but 20 mil a season is pretty affordable right? Still in the process of talking myself into it. As long as the money is right and we grab a young guy in the draft im good with it I think. I would be pretty ho hum if we don't get a young guy though. Elite QBs get around 50, Trubs will probably get around 15. I think it's alright. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 "Per Keefer, some concluded that Wentz displayed “a lack of leadership, a resistance to hard coaching and a reckless style of play.” Frankly, these are exactly the concerns that undermined Wentz’s time with the Eagles." Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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