Cooked Crack Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 What's the negotiation for someone you've said committed treason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 Mam, i wish blue check marks still had meaning. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Fergasun said: ISW @TheStudyofWar Russian troops realizing it’s better to die in Russia than in Ukraine? What a screwed up battle order. This would be like Blackwater deciding to fight Department of Defense forces. This will be an interesting development. Given how Russian troops have been thrown into a meat grinder without the resources they’d need to have even a chance, it’s actually the smart move. Were I them, I’d certainly rather face Moscow’s degraded armory than western weapons used by competent and motivated Ukrainians. They’ll have to look past Prigo’s use of the same tactics, but sometimes you have to pick one devil over another one. 1 hour ago, LD0506 said: Beat me to it!!😂😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 So Putin’s Top Chef contestant is staging a coup? Is that what I’m understanding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 46 minutes ago, LD0506 said: With all this going on, has anyone thought to check on Tulsi Gabbard and make sure she's ok? What about Steven Seagal & Tara Reade & good ol' Edward Snowden? Not sure the validity of the first post but the Nato post is $$$ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 A simpler time… 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 BBC is confirming it, but doing it on live broadcast so nothing for me to link to. That was short lived. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Worst rebellion ever. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 hours ago, LD0506 said: With all this going on, has anyone thought to check on Tulsi Gabbard and make sure she's ok? Waiting for a "Mission Impossible" moment, when Prigozhin grabs his cheek, slowly rips off his own face, only to reveal Tulsi Gabbard in disguise. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Something a bit more solid than the tweet: https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-06-24-23/index.html Prigozhin says his forces "are turning our columns around," amid claims of deal brokered by Lukashenko From CNN's Katharina Krebs and Nathan Hodge Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin published a new audio recording Saturday claiming he was turning his forces around from a march toward Moscow. “We turning our columns around and going back in the other direction toward our field camps, in accordance with the plan,” he said in a message on Telegram. The announcement comes as the Belarusian government claimed President Alexander Lukashenko had reached a deal with Wagner boss to halt the march of his forces on Moscow. "This morning, Russian President Vladimir Putin briefed his Belarusian counterpart on the situation in southern Russia with the private military company Wagner," the statement said. "The heads of state agreed on joint actions. "As a follow-up to the agreements, the President of Belarus, having being additionally informed on the situation through his own channels, and in agreement with the President of Russia, held talks with the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin," the statement continued. "Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted the proposal of the President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of armed persons of the Wagner company on the territory of Russia and take further steps to de-escalate tensions." CNN has reached to Prigozhin's office for comment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Alright guys. This is definitely fishy AF… 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickyJ Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) Maybe the deal is Lukashenko getting his own private military. Dude's gotta feel pretty good for finally being more than just a background dude who nods his head at the right place during speeches. Edited June 24, 2023 by NickyJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Yeah I don't know wtf is going on. How is Putin going to save face knowing Wagner just strolled into Russian territory, blew up a handful of helicopters/planes, and then got to chill with no ramifications? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, NickyJ said: Maybe the deal is Lukashenko getting his own private military. Dude's gotta feel pretty good for finally being more than just a background dude who nods his head at the right place during speeches. That is why it sounds like bull**** to me. Why would Wagner give two ****s about Lashenko or believe he has any kind of power to broker a deal Putin will let Prigozhin live with. alternatively Russians are so random! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 It worked! 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Can you guys imagine how long Putin's table is going to be now after all this? Meetings are going to need walkie talkies. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Again, how can you let someone go if they committed treason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoDus84 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Next arms package to Ukraine going to be filled with emergency popcorn supplies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilverMaC Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) I’m of the same mind as CC84. this all feels like a giant misdirection. Edited June 24, 2023 by MrSilverMaC Stupid typo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Just now, MrSilverMaC said: I’m of the same kind as CC84. this all feels like a giant misdirection. For what purpose? To make Putin look weak AF? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilverMaC Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: For what purpose? To make Putin look weak AF? To get everyone to look away from where we should be focused. I’m hoping no one took their eyes off of zaporizhzhia and the border with Belarus. Edited June 24, 2023 by MrSilverMaC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fergasun Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 Russias MOD was trying to take over Wagner. This was approved by Putin. Wagner said, "You can take us over if you beat us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted June 24, 2023 Author Share Posted June 24, 2023 I don’t think dictators are inclined to trade their legitimacy for some short term tactical advantage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted June 24, 2023 Share Posted June 24, 2023 I think perhaps maybe Ukraine would rush into the “vacuum” left by Wagner departing and perhaps strain the supply lines/surround them. Or alternatively if they needed an excuse to move large numbers of troops off of the front lines for a few days to (let’s say launch a nuke) but I don’t think that is it since where Wagner was wouls be too close to Russia for Russia to launch a nuke there. it has something to do with Belarus though…. Why else would they make lashenko the man. 7 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: I don’t think dictators are inclined to trade their legitimacy for some short term tactical advantage. Also persuasive Maybe Wagner wanted something that was in those two bases… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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