Russian Invasion of Ukraine

[MrSilverMaC]

There were reports that the elite russian airborne company vdv was threatening action if their leader was arrested/killed.

 

Is there going to be any blowback from subordinates loyal to prighozin, or should we be expecting a mass-defenestration?

 

 

 

Edited August 24, 2023 by MrSilverMaC
Poor typing due to posting from work

[CousinsCowgirl84]

49 minutes ago, Simmsy said:

As soon as I saw the breaking news, I wondered if Putin had one of his guys on the plane too so they could also throw him out of a window while shooting down the plane.

 

Guy was an idiot. Who does half of a coup? Who quits the coup while their ahead and gives up all of their leverage? Who expects to live after crossing Putin like that? A fool, thats who. No wonder Putin has been able to stay in power so long, surrounded by idiots.

Who puts their entire command and control in one plane 

[Wildbunny]

4 hours ago, MrSilverMaC said:

I wonder what that douche was thinking on the way down…

Kinda putin’s m.o.

 

he likes people falling from high places.

 

maybe we’ll find out prighozin was sucked out of the window as the plane went down, lol.

I would believe the plane crashed because they threw Prygozhyn, or whatever it is written, out of the window.

[Gurgeh]

4 hours ago, The Sisko said:

I think it was probably Putin's intention to do it this way. It reiterates that he's a cold MoFoe, not to be ****ed with. That's probably it for any future coup attempts. The lesson is, though, that if you're gonna do it, better be prepared to go all the way.

 

I don't think this makes a future coup any less likely, it just means the next one is definitely not going to end in some BS "let's go out separate ways" settlement, as you say,.

 

When the ceasefire comes, just remember this is how Putin respects the deals he makes, in case the repeated invasions of other countries wasn't enough of a red flag.

 

 

[CousinsCowgirl84]

They are reporting on cnn that several minutes prior to the crash the plane gained and lost altitude erratically. Doesn’t seem like a missile strike.

[PokerPacker]

18 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

They are reporting on cnn that several minutes prior to the crash the plane gained and lost altitude erratically. Doesn’t seem like a missile strike.

Try to throw Pringles out the door, he fights back, struggle causes plane to lose control and crash taking everyone else with him?

[China]

[The Sisko]

[gbear]

Wouldn't it make sense for whoever wants to come after Putin to shoot down that plane?  We all assume whoever succeeds Putin will be less ice cold, but why?

 

Let's assume for a minute you are second in line to Putin.  Here come a mercenary leader showing success in Ukraine when most other Russian troops are struggling big time.  Then Prygozhyn leads what at first looks like a coup with some popular support.  Putin strikes a deal, and the coup dissolves.  

 

Now, who stands to lose most if Putin steps down or dies?  Is it Prygozhyn or whoever else would have stepped into Putin's shoes?  Putin is not young.  I think it may be a mistake to assume Putin is responcible.  Think of all the Russian generals who have had little success in Ukraine made to look bad with Wagner group's success.  Whether they want to succeed Putin or not, they look worse and may want revenge/to remove the face of the group making them look bad.  

[LadySkinsFan]

The Russian Generals who have had little success in Ukraine are dead too. 

 

The next coup against Putin better be successful or they will be dead.

[Cooked Crack]

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

[Jabbyrwock]

2 hours ago, Cooked Crack said:

A preliminary U.S. intelligence assessment concluded that the plane crash presumed to have killed Russian mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin was intentionally caused by an explosion as

 

US Intelligence Assessor:

[Cooked Crack]

 

Spoiler

 

 

[Captain Wiggles]

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The plane crash presumed to have killed Wagner leader Prigozhin was intentionally caused by an explosion, according to U.S. and Western officials.

 

[Cooked Crack]

 

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

Man, that’s Mike Ehrmantraut.

[MrSilverMaC]

Reuters
 

Ukraine says it launched 'special operation' in Russian-occupied Crimea

 

KYIV, Aug 24 (Reuters) - Ukraine's navy and military intelligence carried out a "special operation" overnight in which units landed on Russian-occupied Crimea, the defence ministry's Main Directorate of Intelligence (HUR) said on Thursday.

The operation, which Reuters was unable to independently confirm, would amount to a rare demonstration that Ukrainian forces are able to stage ground operations in Crimea, which Russia seized and annexed in 2014.

 

Brief and dark video footage posted alongside the statement showed a small motorboat moving through water at night near a coastline. HUR said the landing point was on the western tip of Crimea, near the settlements of Olenivka and Mayak.

"Special units on watercraft landed on the shore in the area of the Olenivka and Mayak settlements," HUR said in a statement.

It said "all goals" had been achieved and casualties inflicted on the enemy, but did not identify the goals.

 

"Also, the state flag flew again in Ukrainian Crimea," it said, without saying where exactly or providing further details.

….

[Gurgeh]

6 hours ago, MrSilverMaC said:

Reuters
 

Ukraine says it launched 'special operation' in Russian-occupied Crimea

...

 

"Special units on watercraft landed on the shore in the area of the Olenivka and Mayak settlements," HUR said in a statement.

It said "all goals" had been achieved and casualties inflicted on the enemy, but did not identify the goals.

 

"Also, the state flag flew again in Ukrainian Crimea," it said, without saying where exactly or providing further details.

….

 

They took out some high-value air defenses, including a S-400 system. The next day they launched a large drone attack on Crimea, but unfortunately it seems most if not all of the drones were still shot down. It was still an impressive raid to pull off, given that they air or sea equivalence in the area, let alone superiority.

 

In other news:

• A Russian Mi-8 helicopter landed in Ukraine carrying spare parts for Mig fighters. The Ukrainians say the pilot defected in a carefully planned operations, the Russians say he simply got lost.
• The Ukrainians are starting to advance out from the towns of Robotyne and Mala Tokmachka. This puts them just past the dense minefields that held them up for so long and should give them more room to manoeuvre. They are pushing to get in striking distance of the city of Melitopol before the ground turns to thick mud in late Autumn.
• They have also taken most of the heights around Bakhmut and now surround it on three sides, leaving the Russians with the politically awkward problem of withdrawing or becoming surrounded if they lose more ground.

 

[LD0506]

10 minutes ago, Gurgeh said:

The next day they launched a large drone attack on Crimea, but unfortunately it seems most if not all of the drones were still shot down.

 

Even if that is the case it still served to exhaust their munitions and tax their systems, stressing the local defenses and giving the Ukrainians more experience. Don't be surprised when the next one inflicts more damage.

[MrSilverMaC]

5 hours ago, LD0506 said:

 

Even if that is the case it still served to exhaust their munitions and tax their systems, stressing the local defenses and giving the Ukrainians more experience. Don't be surprised when the next one inflicts more damage.

Not to mention the kick in the nuts this is to their morale and sense of security.

 

it’s a shame russian mouthpieces have found so much traction for their bull**** claims that Ukraine’s offensive has failed.

[China]

14 hours ago, MrSilverMaC said:

Reuters
 

Ukraine says it launched 'special operation' in Russian-occupied Crimea

 

KYIV, Aug 24 (Reuters) - Ukraine's navy and military intelligence carried out a "special operation" overnight in which units landed on Russian-occupied Crimea, the defence ministry's Main Directorate of Intelligence (HUR) said on Thursday.

The operation, which Reuters was unable to independently confirm, would amount to a rare demonstration that Ukrainian forces are able to stage ground operations in Crimea, which Russia seized and annexed in 2014.

 

Brief and dark video footage posted alongside the statement showed a small motorboat moving through water at night near a coastline. HUR said the landing point was on the western tip of Crimea, near the settlements of Olenivka and Mayak.

"Special units on watercraft landed on the shore in the area of the Olenivka and Mayak settlements," HUR said in a statement.

It said "all goals" had been achieved and casualties inflicted on the enemy, but did not identify the goals.

 

"Also, the state flag flew again in Ukrainian Crimea," it said, without saying where exactly or providing further details.

….

 

 

[Larry]

 

[MrSilverMaC]

8 hours ago, Larry said:

 

That commercial was so cool. 

 

I’m trying to remember when it came out. Was it from the mid 2000’s?

[China]

Russians Are Strangely Stumped About Why Moscow Is Getting Bombed

 

After six consecutive days of drone attacks on the Moscow region last week, one would think the shock of sudden late-night explosions might compel some Russians to consider what Ukrainian civilians have endured during 550 days of relentless Russian attacks.

 

Instead, some residents near the Russian capital have taken to social media to vent about the inconvenience of being woken up in the middle of the night, question why the “international community” isn’t coming to their rescue, and blame Ukrainian “terrorists” for targeting civilian areas. (Never mind that Moscow has repeatedly attacked residential areas in Ukraine with Iranian-made Shahed drones.)

 

No injuries have been reported in the recent string of attacks, and Russian officials claim to have shot down most of the drones that they say caused only “minor damage” to a building in Moscow City and several broken windows elsewhere. Kyiv has not confirmed or denied involvement in the drone strikes.

 

Russian media widely covered the attacks, airing interviews with residents who showed off their broken windows.

 

“It was scary to go up to the window,” said one man recounting his shock to wake up and find his window shattered. “This is the first time anything like this has happened to me.”

 

Separately, he told Deutsche Welle, “At first, there was panic. I thought the building had been hit by a shell.”

 

“It’s very scary. What if it hits the house next time?” another resident told DW, noting that she has a young child in the home. “Who would have declared such a war on us in Moscow?” she asked, unironically.

 

In a video that went viral, a well-known blogger complained about how rude it is for drones to be launched “when people are sleeping.”

 

“Ukraine is going crazy. Drones at three in the morning. Have you lost your mind?” Hilmi Forks said. “I got scared and jumped off the couch from this explosion... If even one more drone crashes anywhere here in Moscow... I’ll pick up a rifle and go to the front. You got that?”

 

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