Russian Invasion of Ukraine

[DCSaints_fan]

12 minutes ago, Dan T. said:

 

We can send Gen. Mike Flynn to the front line for them....

Yeah, along with that jackass Douglas Macgregor.

[spjunkies]

 

 

[FootballZombie]

C'mon Finland, join the fun bunch

 

 

Finland's president says joining NATO would be beneficial, but would "increase tensions with Russia"

From CNN's Pierre Meilhan

 

A NATO membership "would permanently increase tensions with Russia" along Finland’s border with Russia, President Sauli Niinistö said Saturday in an interview with the country’s public broadcaster Yle TV1.

 

Niinistö said the greatest benefit of a NATO membership would be "gaining a preventive effect," but there would also be a risk for various types of Russian retaliation, including hybrid threats.

 

The president also said that the benefits of being part of NATO would outweigh the negative ramifications, and that it is most important to find solutions to increase his country’s security.

 

"Sufficient security is where Finns can feel that there is no emergency and there won't be one," he said, while also adding that being part of the alliance would provide the "most sufficient" security.

 

Since Russian’s invasion of Ukraine, Finland has been considering joining the military alliance, Finnish Foreign Minister Pekka Haavisto told CNN's Becky Anderson earlier this month.

Edited March 26, 2022 by FootballZombie

[Wildbunny]

27 minutes ago, FootballZombie said:

C'mon Finland, join the fun bunch

 

Why do you want to sent Art Monk, Gary Clark and Ricky Sanders there? They're too old for war!

[MrSilverMaC]

Azerbaijan is either an excuse to start pulling troops out or putin is even dumber than hitler and wants to open a second front while already getting his ass handed to him in Ukraine.

[spjunkies]

 

 

[Die Hard]

1 hour ago, FootballZombie said:

C'mon Finland, join the fun bunch

 

 

Finland's president says joining NATO would be beneficial, but would "increase tensions with Russia"

From CNN's Pierre Meilhan

 

A NATO membership "would permanently increase tensions with Russia" along Finland’s border with Russia, President Sauli Niinistö said Saturday in an interview with the country’s public broadcaster Yle TV1.

 

Niinistö said the greatest benefit of a NATO membership would be "gaining a preventive effect," but there would also be a risk for various types of Russian retaliation, including hybrid threats.

 

The president also said that the benefits of being part of NATO would outweigh the negative ramifications, and that it is most important to find solutions to increase his country’s security.

 

"Sufficient security is where Finns can feel that there is no emergency and there won't be one," he said, while also adding that being part of the alliance would provide the "most sufficient" security.

 

Since Russian’s invasion of Ukraine, Finland has been considering joining the military alliance, Finnish Foreign Minister Pekka Haavisto told CNN's Becky Anderson earlier this month.

Dont worry Finland, Russia will be there when you need to be liberated by neo-nazis. And any other issues you didn’t even know you have. Without your permission.

[CousinsCowgirl84]

48 minutes ago, MrSilverMaC said:

Azerbaijan is either an excuse to start pulling troops out or putin is even dumber than hitler and wants to open a second front while already getting his ass handed to him in Ukraine.

I think Azerbaijan too the opportunity while Russia was attacking Ukraine to attack Armenians….

 

russia has been serving as a legitimate peace keeper between Azerbaijan and Armenia for awhile…

[Renegade7]

30 minutes ago, Die Hard said:

Dont worry Finland, Russia will be there when you need to be liberated by neo-nazis. And any other issues you didn’t even know you have. Without your permission.

 

 

[Wildbunny]

Joe is seemingly starting to showing muscles, from calling Putin a "Butcher", to allow the transfer of Polish planes to Ukraine. That's quite a shift in our global position toward Russia.

 

Seems like our deck is stacked now and are ready to call Putin's bluff.

 

With all the troops we already deployed, and those that are still in Norway I believe after their exercice, I would think we have a good military force around Russia make him blink.

Edited March 26, 2022 by Wildbunny

[FrFan]

 

[CousinsCowgirl84]

Joe Biden called for regime change in Russia, but the whitehouse didn’t..

[visionary]

 

 

 

 

 

[visionary]

 

[TheGreatBuzz]

2 hours ago, Wildbunny said:

to allow the transfer of Polish planes to Ukraine.

 

 

 

Did I miss something?

 

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I would think we have a good military force around Russia make him blink.

 

But will Biden force him to blink?  We don't seem to have the balls to go beyond sanctions. 

[PleaseBlitz]

3 minutes ago, The Almighty Buzz said:

 

Did I miss something?

 

 

But will Biden force him to blink?  We don't seem to have the balls to go beyond sanctions. 

Sanctions and organizing others to pour in weapons. 

[TheGreatBuzz]

Just now, PleaseBlitz said:

Sanctions and organizing others to pour in weapons. 

He mentioned the transfer of Polish planes to Ukraine.  Did something change on that front?  Last I heard, we said we wouldn't do it but Poland was welcome to.  Is there some update to that?

[PleaseBlitz]

16 minutes ago, The Almighty Buzz said:

He mentioned the transfer of Polish planes to Ukraine.  Did something change on that front?  Last I heard, we said we wouldn't do it but Poland was welcome to.  Is there some update to that?

Three dozen countries have poured weapons into Ukraine. Do you really think that isn’t being organized by the US?

 

 

Country		Weapon or Supplies
Australia		AUD $70 million (U.S. $51.6 million) worth of military assistance, including missiles and weapons
Austria		Helmets, body armor and 100,000 liters of fuel
Belgium		200 anti-tank weapons, 3,000 automatic rifles and 2,000 machine guns
Canada		Up to 4,500 M72 rocket launchers, 1,600 fragmentation vests, up to 7,500 hand grenades, $1 million to buy commercial satellite high resolution & modern imagery, machine guns, pistols, carbines; 1.5 million rounds of ammunition, sniper rifles and various related equipment worth CAD $10 million (U.S. $7.9 million); CAD $25 million (U.S. $19.9 million) in military aid that could include helmets, body armor, gas masks and night vision gear
Croatia		124 million kuna (U.S. $18.1 million) worth of rifles, machine guns and protective equipment
Czech Republic		400 million koruna (U.S. $17.9 million) worth of non-light weapons includes 160 shoulder-fired MANPAD systems, 20 light machine guns, 132 assault rifles, 70 submachine guns, 108,000 bullets and 1,000 tactical gloves (possibly also includes 10,000 rocket-propelled grenades); 188 million koruna (U.S. $8.4 million) worth of 4,000 mortars, 30,000 pistols, 7,000 assault rifles, 3,000 machine guns, a number of sniper rifles and 1 million bullets
Denmark		2,700 anti-tank weapons, 300 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles (returned to United States to be made operational) and protective vests
Estonia		Javelin anti-tank missiles; 9 howitzers (with German permission)
European Union		€500 million (U.S. $551 million) of military aid
Finland		2,000 bulletproof vests, 2,000 helmets, 2,500 assault rifles and 150,000 cartridges, 1,500 single-shot anti-tank weapons and 700,000 combat ration packages
France		France has not publicly disclosed any specifics of military aid
Germany		1,000 anti-tank weapons and 500 Stinger anti-aircraft defense systems; permission given to other countries to send 14 armored vehicles
Greece		Undisclosed number of portable rocket launchers, ammunition and Kalashnikov rifles
Italy		The Cabinet approved a transfer of military equipment reported to include 120 mortars, Stinger anti-aircraft missile launchers, Browning heavy machine guns, Browning rounds, light machine guns, anti-tank launchers, anti-tank shots, K-rations, radios, helmets and vests
Ireland		Body armor and fuel
Japan		Bulletproof vests, helmets and winter military uniforms
Latvia		Stinger anti-aircraft missiles
Lithuania		Stinger anti-aircraft missile systems and ammunition
Luxembourg		100 light anti-tank weapons along with four-wheel-drive vehicles and 15 military tents
Netherlands		200 Stinger anti-aircraft missiles, 3,000 combat helmets and 2,000 fragmentation vests with accompanying armor plates, 100 sniper rifles with 30,000 pieces of ammunition, plus other equipment; 400 rocket-propelled grenade launchers (with German permission)
Norway		2,000 anti-tank weapons, helmets, bulletproof vests, other protective equipment
North Macedonia		Military material and equipment
Poland		Reported to be tens of thousands of shells and artillery ammunition, anti-aircraft missiles, light mortars and reconnaissance drones
Portugal		Grenades and ammunition, G3 automatic rifles and other non-lethal equipment
Romania		€3 million (U.S. $3.3 million) worth of fuel, bulletproof vests, helmets, ammunition, military equipment and medical treatment
Slovakia		Slovakia has agreed to provide its S-300 air defense systems and MiG-29s to Ukraine “immediately” if it can get “proper” replacements in a timely manner
Slovenia		Kalashnikov rifles, ammunition and helmets
South Korea		Military equipment and uniforms
Spain		1,370 grenade launchers, 700,000 rounds of ammunition and an unspecified number of light machine guns. 20 tons of medical supplies, defensive, and personal protective equipment composed of helmets, flak jackets, and NBC (nuclear-biological-chemical) protection waistcoats
Sweden		10,000 anti-tank weapons, 5,000 helmets and 5,000 body shields
Turkey		Undisclosed number of Baykar Bayraktar TB2 armed drones
United Kingdom		More than 10,000 short-range and anti-tank missiles as well as high explosive weapons; £25 million (U.S. $33 million) in military aid; Saxon armored vehicles; Sky Sabre air defense system (medium range anti-air missile system) to Poland with 100 personnel to operate it
United States		1,400 Stinger anti-aircraft missile systems, 4,600 Javelin anti-tank missiles, five Mi-17 helicopters, three patrol boats, four counter-artillery and counter-drone tracking radars, 2,000 light anti-armor weapons, 300 grenade launchers and ammunition; 600 shotguns and 600 machine guns; 5,000 rifles; 1,000 pistols; 25,000 sets of body armor; 25,000 helmets; nearly 40 million rounds of small arms ammunition and over 1 million grenade, mortar and artillery rounds; 70 Humvees and other vehicles, 6,000 AT-4 anti-armor systems and 100 Switchblade drones

This is pretty badass. 
 

 

“In the perennial struggle for democracy and freedom, Ukraine and its people are on the front lines, fighting to save their nation, and their brave resistance is part of a larger fight for essential democratic principles that unite all free people.”

 

 

Edited March 27, 2022 by PleaseBlitz

[visionary]

Right, but I haven't seen anything about planes and Zelensky seemed to be saying they haven't gotten them.

Edited March 27, 2022 by visionary

[TradeTheBeal!]

I’m thrilled that Putin and his crew of soon-to-be-dead backup generals are getting conflicting information about exactly what, when and where Ukraine is getting.

[visionary]

 

 

 

 

[TheGreatBuzz]

11 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said:

Three dozen countries have poured weapons into Ukraine. Do you really think that isn’t being organized by the US?

 

Right.  But the two key words were poland and planes.  Was there some update on that?

[Renegade7]

2 hours ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

Joe Biden called for regime change in Russia, but the whitehouse didn’t..

 

Yea, because he shouldn't of said that (even if we are all thinking it).  Him saying it carries a different weight in a country in leader that is historically paranoid at minimum.  They don't need and more ammo or gasoline in that front, not in context of how we typically do regime changes.

[CousinsCowgirl84]

I though Russia said they were gonna retreat back to eastern Ukraine…. But then they bombed Lviv?

1 minute ago, Renegade7 said:

 

Yea, because he shouldn't of said that (even if we are all thinking it).  Him saying it carries a different weight in a country in leader that is historically paranoid at minimum.  They don't need and more ammo or gasoline in that front, not in context of how we typically do regime changes.

Why shouldn’t he have said it?

[PleaseBlitz]

2 minutes ago, The Almighty Buzz said:

 

Right.  But the two key words were poland and planes.  Was there some update on that?

No idea. My comment was in reference to your statement that “we don't seem to have the balls to go beyond sanctions” when that is very clearly not true.