The Official ES (or E...C) 2022 Free Agency Thread Signed G Andrew Norwell, Obada, Trai Turner...Goodbye Scherff, Kyle Allen, Tim Settle

[RWJ]

5 minutes ago, CommDownMan said:

 

Are you looking for an internship?  Haha

No, but it would be interesting to spend about a week with an NFL Front Office and see what happens during the draft process and their responsibilities.  LOL   

[DWinzit]

1 hour ago, FLSkinz83 said:

I'm not sure where this Blake Martinez stuff is coming from, but he took a pay cut from the Giants last month to stay.

 

In terms of available CB's, I would think Kyle Fuller might want to play with his bro and Chris Harris played for Del Rio in Denver

 

3 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Martinez took a pay cut to stay in NY so i don't think he's a big cap savings move.  I am guessing at a minimum they bring Martinez to camp and let the competition play out.  I am not a big fan of McFadden.  I like Beavers, don't love him.  I guess will see what transpires there. 

 

If his health checks out my top guy remains.  Alexander.  i do like Martinez but want some indication that the Giants are actually considering releasing him before getting my hopes up.

I had not seen that Martinez had agreed to a pay cut, my bad.

 

Certainly Fuller, Harris and Alexander would be welcomed upgrades!

[Est.1974]

So Mathieu got 3/33mil from the Saints. 
 

I think I’ll revise down my offer to Collins. No way you pay him over 5mil per year is there ? 

8 hours ago, FLSkinz83 said:

I can't see us paying Bradberry when we already are paying Jackson and Fuller big money.    We'll sign a vet on a 1 year deal.

Logically yes. I also think KC was the leading trade partner.
 

However he and Rivera are close. I say Rivera takes Bradberry over both of the above,if he had to chose. You keep them all. Plus, if a fine player wanted to join here like Bradberry, you make that move. Players of that quality aren’t lining up around the block to be a Commander....

[The Rook]

3 hours ago, Est.1974 said:

However he and Rivera are close. I say Rivera takes Bradberry over both of the above,if he had to chose. You keep them all. Plus, if a fine player wanted to join here like Bradberry, you make that move. Players of that quality aren’t lining up around the block to be a Commander....

 

If they sign one more ex-Carolina player, they need to change the name to the "Commathers". 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The Rook

[Forever A Redskin]

Wonder if we would consider trading for Martinez and what it would take to get him.

 

If he's been identified as the guy they want to bring in, of course. 5th round pick?

[Skinsinparadise]

 

 

 

 

 

[Sacks 'n' Stuff]

13 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Just go ahead and cut him.

[FootballZombie]

Good show of leadership and conviction. Didn't have to, but did. Credit where it is due.

 

 

Maybe now he can focus on playing somewhere.

[RWJ]

@Skinsinparadise@KDawg@Forever A Redskin I chose you three.  I didn't get to watch many games last year (4 at the most at the beginning of the year).  If we resigned Landon Collins would we still need a ILB and why?  

[method man]

14 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

lol, Art was IMO entertaining but as for content I think he's the only dude in the history of the board who loves and will back to the end (including the last time i recall him posting here) Dan Snyder, Bruce Allen and Vinny Cerrato.  I recall his last push was to try to convince us it was Jay who was all in on drafting Haskins, and Dan had nothing to do with it. 

 

Yeah i recall him hating JLC.  JLC can be arrogant.  i'll give him though back when he was the WP beat writer, he'd respond to emails, I'd send him some asking about this and that and he's actually repond to them in detail.   He's also one of the rare American sports writers who digs the Premier League so I liked that about him.

 

Hopefully he's wrong about Terry.  I am guessing he's right but it might not be that ominious.  Could be just him checking in with Terry's agent and his agent told them they got miles to go to work this out.

 

I wonder (just a guess on my end) if this FO are shocked by the sticker price changing so much from what they thought it would be when the off season started and if so are grappiling with their part of in my mind of screwing this up some. 

 

I hope Terry doesn't now want $30M. He should land somewhere between DJ Moore and AJ Brown at this point. I hope $22M AAV over 3 years gets it done. 

[Simmsy]

On 5/2/2022 at 2:36 PM, JamesMadisonSkins said:

Per Washington's Depth Chart on ESPN:

 

QB: Wentz, Heinecke, Howell

RB: Gibson, McKissic, Robinson, Patterson

TE: Thomas, Bates, Turner, Reyes

WR: McLaurin, Brown, AGG

WR: Samuel, Sims, Harmon

WR: Dotson, Milne, Michel

LT: Leno, Charles

LG: Norwell, Benzschawel, Laufenberg

OC: Roullier, Larsen, Ismael

RG: Schweitzer, Turner, Paul

RT: Cosmi, Lucas

 

I bolded the players I think are good bets to make the roster. That's 24. I assume that's a safe bet for offensive players kept.

Heinecke isn't a lock to make the roster. If we keep 3 QBs then sure, but if we are confident in Wentz + Howell then we could save an additional $3m parting with Heinecke. Way too early to make such projections though.

 

I picked out Bates, Simply cause I like him. Let see if he can work on not landing directly on his spine...for the future...

[Est.1974]

Given our recent return to the Alabama pool, is Dylan Moses complete damaged goods at this stage. Or is he worth a camp tryout if remotely healthy?

[Skinsinparadise]

Keim's new podcast, he specifically said he poked around the situation with Blake Martinez and found he's hearing for now the Giants have no plans to release him.  So at least for now he doesn't think that's happening.  He did say that they did like Martinez. 

 

They want to see internally what they got ala how does Percy Butler look at big nicklel.  Ditto how their LBS look. 

 

They might see who gets available at that spot.

Edited May 6, 2022 by Skinsinparadise

[Skinsinparadise]

7 hours ago, RWJ said:

@Skinsinparadise@KDawg@Forever A Redskin I chose you three.  I didn't get to watch many games last year (4 at the most at the beginning of the year).  If we resigned Landon Collins would we still need a ILB and why?  

 

I'll start with, its odd to see Keim and Standig at odd on a key point.  I missed the previous Keim podcast so I need to see if he said anything different in that one but generally he had some optimism that they could get Collins back whereas Standig thinks there is almost no chance Collins would come back.

 

If they brought Collins back, IMO LB wouldn't be as much of a need.  Butler to me comes off more as nickle not a big nickle -- FS/CB hybrid versus LB/SS hybrid.  So if they are relying on Butler than to me they'd need to add a SS/LB hybrid type.  K. Hudson might be able to fill that role. 

 

As for LB, they played mostly 2 LB sets and even 1 LBs sets last season, so it all depends IMO about Jamin Davis.  I think at a minimum they need to add another LB for depth.

 

 

Edited May 6, 2022 by Skinsinparadise

[KDawg]

7 hours ago, RWJ said:

@Skinsinparadise@KDawg@Forever A Redskin I chose you three.  I didn't get to watch many games last year (4 at the most at the beginning of the year).  If we resigned Landon Collins would we still need a ILB and why?  

 

This is a complicated answer.

 

We need ILBs regardless. Landon doesn't play ILB. And we have very little depth. That's the simplest explanation.

[Skinsinparadise]

OK, so I checked out the beginning of the Keim podcast that I missed, usually the beginning has the more interesting stuff.

 

A.  He thinks they are going to wait 2-3 weeks more or less before signing more FAs, he mentioned Collins in that context as a maybe

B.  Reason being is they want to see how their draft picks look in minicamp especially how quick of a study they are

 

Keim talked about nickel and a different way that Rivera has relating to Butler thus far and said so more similar to my point in my post this morning.  I am guessing he got this from one of the defensive coaches.  This is, Butler would be perhaps the more coverage version of nickle and Curl perhaps would play the big nickel with Butler and McCain playing back in coverage.

 

Just on an aside they seem really fascinated by Percy Butler, seems like there is oddly more talk about him than the other prospects.

Edited May 6, 2022 by Skinsinparadise

[Est.1974]

7 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

OK, so I checked out the beginning of the Keim podcast that I missed, usually the beginning has the more interesting stuff.

 

A.  He thinks they are going to wait 2-3 weeks more or less before signing more FAs, he mentioned Collins in that context as a maybe

B.  Reason being is they want to see how their draft picks look in minicamp especially how quick of a study they are

 

Keim talked about nickel and a different way that Rivera has relating to Butler thus far and said so more similar to my point in my post this morning.  I am guessing he got this from one of the defensive coaches.  This is, Butler would be perhaps the more coverage version of nickle and Curl perhaps would play the big nickel with Butler and McCain playing back in coverage.

 

Just on an aside they seem really fascinated by Percy Butler, seems like there is oddly more talk about him than the other prospects.

Yeah I see Butler as competition for McCain more than anything. 
 

Just looked up that McCain got a 2 year 11 mil deal. Wonder it that type of deal would wash with Collins now.

[KDawg]

15 minutes ago, Est.1974 said:

Yeah I see Butler as competition for McCain more than anything. 
 

Just looked up that McCain got a 2 year 11 mil deal. Wonder it that type of deal would wash with Collins now.

Collins is a better player than McCain so he'd need to get a bit more than that. 

[sebestian]

8 hours ago, FootballZombie said:

Good show of leadership and conviction. Didn't have to, but did. Credit where it is due.

 

 

Maybe now he can focus on playing somewhere.

 

Good for you Landon.  Way to set the example.  Proud of you and appreciate the message you send to the youth of the nation.

 

Now come back home!!!

[sebestian]

James Bradbury to be available by end of the week as per GMFB.

[method man]

1 hour ago, KDawg said:

Collins is a better player than McCain so he'd need to get a bit more than that. 

McCain plays a more premium position. Landon doesn’t have a market because few teams need a pure box safety. Even if he considers himself a LB, so many teams use a 3-4 and he doesn’t fit that either. Should be able to get him at $5M or under

[KDawg]

16 minutes ago, method man said:

McCain plays a more premium position. Landon doesn’t have a market because few teams need a pure box safety. Even if he considers himself a LB, so many teams use a 3-4 and he doesn’t fit that either. Should be able to get him at $5M or under

McCain stinks.

[Est.1974]

38 minutes ago, method man said:

McCain plays a more premium position. Landon doesn’t have a market because few teams need a pure box safety. Even if he considers himself a LB, so many teams use a 3-4 and he doesn’t fit that either. Should be able to get him at $5M or under

Landon actually plays a premium position in our defensive scheme. I guess we can disagree on whether he’s worth 4 mil, 6 mil or whatever. If we got him back at 50% of the cost he was originally contracted to make we’d be well set. 

[JamesMadisonSkins]

4 hours ago, Est.1974 said:

Given our recent return to the Alabama pool, is Dylan Moses complete damaged goods at this stage. Or is he worth a camp tryout if remotely healthy?

 

Totally forgot about Moses. And Jacksonville just released him last month. I mean it's gotta be worth kicking the tires, right? Dude was electric in college. Obviously medical red flags. 

[Thinking Skins]

2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said:

OK, so I checked out the beginning of the Keim podcast that I missed, usually the beginning has the more interesting stuff.

 

A.  He thinks they are going to wait 2-3 weeks more or less before signing more FAs, he mentioned Collins in that context as a maybe

B.  Reason being is they want to see how their draft picks look in minicamp especially how quick of a study they are

 

Keim talked about nickel and a different way that Rivera has relating to Butler thus far and said so more similar to my point in my post this morning.  I am guessing he got this from one of the defensive coaches.  This is, Butler would be perhaps the more coverage version of nickle and Curl perhaps would play the big nickel with Butler and McCain playing back in coverage.

 

Just on an aside they seem really fascinated by Percy Butler, seems like there is oddly more talk about him than the other prospects.

For a guy who isn't wrong often, he seemed to get that FA signing thing wrong. We immediately sign a return specialist after that podcast.