wit33 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said: Also, Dak and Jimmy win a ton of games and are always in the playoffs so if that’s purgatory, sign me up. They’ll both be available this off season lol As well as our beloved Kurt. All at discounted costs! Yuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ball Security said: It’d be helpful to have some explanation of what this visualization is depicting. I’m assuming that the number of sacks is what drives the size of the circle, but that is a guess, but there’s no indication of what the x and y axes represent, or where other QBs land. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 A 5th round pick playing at essentially league average level after seven career starts is pretty good to be honest. 7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 said: He’s tied for 5th in Big Time Throws according to PFF. Definitely a big talent in there that needs nurturing Very encouraging 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Stihl89 said: As I’ve been saying These QBs are purgatory leading 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Stihl89 said: If he could see and throw the ball he would have significantly less rushing yards. Oh come on. This is ridiculous. PFF has Sam at 5th in the league for big time throws (a pass with excellent ball location and timing, generally thrown further down the field and/or into a tighter window) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
repo_4 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Stihl89 said: Exceptions to the rule. Maybe Sam is one of them but people want tall QBs for a reason. Could easily argue that height is maybe part of the reason for some of the sacks Hurts is considered elite I believe, Purdy appears to be on that same path with his performance and the way he is perceived around the league and Tua is now lighting it up . They are also all listed as 6'1. Just like Howell... Lamar, Aaron Rogers and Mahomes are only 6'2. Your take that Sam can't be elite because of his height is just wrong. There is plenty of evidence that he can be very successful at that height. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel.redskins Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Stihl89 said: Exceptions to the rule. Maybe Sam is one of them but people want tall QBs for a reason. Could easily argue that height is maybe part of the reason for some of the sacks. Sorry to pop your bubble but Caleb Williams is the exact same size as Howell. Obviously Caleb is stronger and faster, not going to deny that. In my opinion there is nothing elite about Maye. Howell seems just as strong and a maybe even a bit quicker. Sanders is the wild card of this draft. Sources are saying he doesn't have quite the NFL arm. So, I would say Howell has a stronger arm. He's also no Goliath. That's it this year. Williams. Nothing "elite" as you say for Maye, Sanders, Penix, Ewers, Nix, or McCarthy. Sounds like if you were GM, you would trade everything for Williams. If that's your stance, we can have the conversation. But to hate Howell subjectively makes no sense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tress Is The Way Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Daniel.redskins said: Sorry to pop your bubble but Caleb Williams is the exact same size as Howell. Obviously Caleb is stronger and faster, not going to deny that. In my opinion there is nothing elite about Maye. Howell seems just as strong and a maybe even a bit quicker. Sanders is the wild card of this draft. Sources are saying he doesn't have quite the NFL arm. So, I would say Howell has a stronger arm. He's also no Goliath. That's it this year. Williams. Nothing "elite" as you say for Maye, Sanders, Penix, Ewers, Nix, or McCarthy. Sounds like if you were GM, you would trade everything for Williams. If that's your stance, we can have the conversation. But to hate Howell subjectively makes no sense. Caleb Williams is a USC QB, there has never been a good USC QB in the NFL. Sure he has the talent, but I have serious doubts about the kid.. maybe he proves me wrong but people believing he's the next coming of Andrew Luck is laughable. He seriously reminds me of RG3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, Tress Is The Way said: Caleb Williams is a USC QB, there has never been a good USC QB in the NFL. Sure he has the talent, but I have serious doubts about the kid.. maybe he proves me wrong but people believing he's the next coming of Andrew Luck is laughable. He seriously reminds me of RG3 This. We have a good QB. Why risk it for a USC QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srtman04 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 46 minutes ago, repo_4 said: Hurts is considered elite I believe, Purdy appears to be on that same path with his performance and the way he is perceived around the league and Tua is now lighting it up . They are also all listed as 6'1. Just like Howell... Lamar, Aaron Rogers and Mahomes are only 6'2. Your take that Sam can't be elite because of his height is just wrong. There is plenty of evidence that he can be very successful at that height. I mean, Drew Brees was pretty much the same height as Sam. Look how his career turned out.....people need to seriously chill about the height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Spiers Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Sam Howell is the best QB this team has had since Mark Rypien. And he's only 23 and has much more upside and skill than Rypien. Surround him with the right team and coaches and I think he can win a couple of Super Bowls before his career is over and get us to the playoffs on a yearly basis. He is a total winner and he is the QB Washington has been waiting for. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 44 minutes ago, Tyler Spiers said: Sam Howell is the best QB this team has had since Mark Rypien. And he's only 23 and has much more upside and skill than Rypien. Surround him with the right team and coaches and I think he can win a couple of Super Bowls before his career is over and get us to the playoffs on a yearly basis. He is a total winner and he is the QB Washington has been waiting for. Lol You from Chapel Hill? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 58 minutes ago, Tyler Spiers said: Sam Howell is the best QB this team has had since Mark Rypien. And he's only 23 and has much more upside and skill than Rypien. Surround him with the right team and coaches and I think he can win a couple of Super Bowls before his career is over and get us to the playoffs on a yearly basis. He is a total winner and he is the QB Washington has been waiting for. Actually, he is the best QB we have had since RG3 and Kirk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oraphus Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Even if Sam ends up being a consistent mid level (12-18 ranked) QB, the team around him is nowhere good enough to get us in the NFC Championship. If he was a top 5QB.. and better coaching.. maybe. Once we clean house from the atrocious coaching we have had to endure over the last 4 years.. A very good coach and GM can probably fix this roster in 1-2years. If Sam figures out how to stay upright and healthy that long... there a some interesting possibilities on what this team can be. A lot of ifs though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, zCommander said: The most important thing to retain about this is I am almost never wrong and most people are almost never right. I humbly accept what I know will be universal recognition of this reality.💩 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stihl89 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Thinking Skins said: This. We have a good QB. Why risk it for a USC QB? Don’t scout the helmet… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, Stihl89 said: Don’t scout the helmet… Sorry. I've been burned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, zCommander said: Actually, he is the best QB we have had since RG3 and Kirk. Best QB since Kirk. Robert sucked. Kyle took Vince Young and turned him into ROY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 3 hours ago, repo_4 said: Hurts is considered elite I believe, Purdy appears to be on that same path with his performance and the way he is perceived around the league and Tua is now lighting it up . They are also all listed as 6'1. Just like Howell... Lamar, Aaron Rogers and Mahomes are only 6'2. Your take that Sam can't be elite because of his height is just wrong. There is plenty of evidence that he can be very successful at that height. Yeah, but none of those guys are better than Brock Osweiler. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goskins10 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, zCommander said: Actually, he is the best QB we have had since RG3 and Kirk. For right now that's probably a fair statement. But his upside means the other statement could eventually be true and more. It is still just his 7th game as a starter in the NFL and his 2nd offense. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalhead Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 He's 23. He's been sacked 34 times, has a crappy OL, and still hanging with the big boys in the league by putting up good to great numbers. He's already Top 15 in the league, imo. Yeah, basic stats but they are what counts at the end of the day. 5th in Completions at 145 9th in Yards at 1500 10th in TD's at 9 10th in Cmp% at 67.8 10th in YPG at 250.0 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zCommander Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Ball Security said: Yeah, but none of those guys are better than Brock Osweiler. And he was actually taller than Anthony Mix to boot lol 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Just now, zCommander said: And he was actually taller than Anthony Mix to boot lol Impossible. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 The last couple of years our weakest link was CLEARLY QB. That is currently not the case. Now part of it is because other parts of the team have deteriorated, but its also because Howell is absolutely a massive upgrade over what we've had. At the very least, he'll make this season worth watching. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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