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3 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said:

I only see positive outcomes from increased engagement with Cuba, I have no idea why we wouldn't try to bring the whole country into our sphere of influence.  


Debate by sound bite. And Florida used to be in play. 

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18 hours ago, Larry said:

Wondering how Joe Biden has the authority to tell people who are contemplating loaning money to someone, that they're not allowed to factor in the million dollars he owes. 

 

 

Yea, not sure how I feel about this. I understand the feel good side of it. And I could not hate our medical system any worse. But this seems like a bit of overreach by the administration. If he can do this, what's next? Home loans? Can loans? Credit Card debt? Then it just encourages people not to pay thier bills. How about looking for ways for them not to get into debt. or to relieve that debt. 

 

Not 100% against, but just like student loan forgiveness which I am mostly for, I am not sure this solves anything long term, unless there is a follow up we do not know about. 

 

Maybe i am missing something - a fair bet. So I could be convinced to go the other way I guess. But my first instinct is this is not a good idea. 

 

 

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Yea, not sure how I feel about this. I understand the feel good side of it. And I could not hate our medical system any worse. But this seems like a bit of overreach by the administration. If he can do this, what's next? Home loans? Can loans? Credit Card debt? Then it just encourages people not to pay thier bills. How about looknig for ways for them not to get into debt. or to relieve tht debt. 

 

Not 100% against, but jsut like student loan forgiveness which I am mostly for I am not sure this solves anything long term. Unless tere is a follow up we do not know about. 

 

Maybe i am missing something - a fair bet. So I could be convinced to go the other way I guess. But my first instinct is this not a good idea. 

 

 


this is a general issue I see with a lot of democrats policy ideas. Tackle the issue of cost, don’t throw this kinda stuff out there that clearly has consequences. To me the endstate is obvious - it becomes more costly or challenging for the rest of us to get loans because the problem isn’t solved, medical debt will still exist, and people loaning money will have to figure out how to make up for being forced to make loans people can’t pay because they have debt that can’t be factored in. 
 

it’s like higher education - instead of doing something about the cost, they just made it easy and cheap to borrow money. Decades later we have ever increasing school costs, that are a huge burden for most, costly student loan debt that supposedly hurts the economy, and now the solution is to just wipe the debt away…

 

their policies routinely just tackle whatever symptom is the source of the currently trending outrage, but don’t do anything about the actual problem. 
 

of course - the counter argument is we don’t have a functioning government and that probably forces this approach more often than it otherwise would. If both parties worked together we’d probably get more effective solutions. 

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I want to hear how Biden plans to come after prices leading to medical bankruptcy...wait, I'm hearing he's coming after drug prices with via Medicare negotiations as a starting point?

 

I get it, concern of looking like amnesty without answer for why amnesty was needed in the first place. But I'm seeing attempt to address this, remember he was pushing public option over MFA during presidential debates.

 

While I'm not happy it hasn't come up since, this House being so idiot goose stare at the sky mouth open and drowning stupid makes me wonder if he's jus waiting for 2024 to get House back and bring it up then.

 

Our government makes wholesale change difficult, gotta start somewhere...

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I have an ongoing shoulder issue, it dislocates at the drop of a hat. I can't put it back in anymore, I have to go to the hospital. It costs me anywhere between 3-5 grand per visit each time I have to go. I had to go a few years ago, they couldn't put it back in so they told me I would have to wait for a surgeon who wasn't there, so they put me in a room. The doctor never came, I laid upstair in a room with a dislocated shoulder for well over 24 hours. No doctor, no food, nurses were all but useless. Eventually, after laying there long enough, my shoulder goes back in on my own. They discharge me and send me a bill for 7.5k...for doing nothing and neglecting me. **** the medical industry for trying gauge people and **** them for trying to get rich off of people's misfortune. I understand you're trying to run a business, but maybe my personally health and well being shouldn't be a ****ing business.

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1 hour ago, Simmsy said:

I have an ongoing shoulder issue, it dislocates at the drop of a hat. I can't put it back in anymore, I have to go to the hospital. It costs me anywhere between 3-5 grand per visit each time I have to go. I had to go a few years ago, they couldn't put it back in so they told me I would have to wait for a surgeon who wasn't there, so they put me in a room. The doctor never came, I laid upstair in a room with a dislocated shoulder for well over 24 hours. No doctor, no food, nurses were all but useless. Eventually, after laying there long enough, my shoulder goes back in on my own. They discharge me and send me a bill for 7.5k...for doing nothing and neglecting me. **** the medical industry for trying gauge people and **** them for trying to get rich off of people's misfortune. I understand you're trying to run a business, but maybe my personally health and well being shouldn't be a ****ing business.

I refused to pay a doctor who was an absolute dick and misdiagnosed me.  Told me I needed a liver transplant but I wasn't bad off enough and my body couldn't take the surgery anyway so I was just gonna die.  Literally, the bedside manner of a toilet. 

Nothing could have been further from the truth.  It took Emory's top infectious disease specialist to determine it was a strep infection, I didn't have cirrhosis, and I was only near death because the hospital made me that way for keeping me without food for 4 days.  When I came home after 3 weeks, I weighed 63.7 lbs. 

My only saving grace was we had hit our deductible on the 1st day I was admitted, so I paid for nothing (other than what I was supposed to pay the stupid specialist and he can shove any hope of that straight up his ass.)  I don't care. 

 

You should challenge that bill.  They're required to keep records of everything, and you can prove by their own records that you got no care.  I'd check into it if I were you. 

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On 9/18/2023 at 3:19 PM, PleaseBlitz said:

I only see positive outcomes from increased engagement with Cuba, I have no idea why we wouldn't try to bring the whole country into our sphere of influence.  

 

It isn't hard to argue that there have been negatives for the countries in the Caribbean and even Central America that are in our sphere of influence, and their instability has negatively impacted us (in terms of things like illegal drugs, immigration, and government corruption).

 

(Not saying things are good in Cuba or would be worse for us or Cuba if they fell into our sphere of influence.  Just that it isn't really hard to argue that there would be some negative impacts if you think at all about what has happened to other countries in the Caribbean and Central America over the last 60 years or so.  And then how bad things in those countries have negatively impacted us.)

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On 9/22/2023 at 11:31 AM, TradeTheBeal! said:

Removing medical debt from credit reports will likely provide a very tangible benefit to retail automobile enterprises.


Well sure, retail auto doesn’t hold the loans and isn’t on the hook if they go bad. 
 

I’m all in favor of removing medical debt from credit reports, I’m just saying that we should randomly burn down 10% of auto dealerships because I’ve been drinking. 

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13 minutes ago, TradeTheBeal! said:


This is a powerful populist message that I think will resonate loudly with the American people.  I look forward to donating to your campaign.


 My super PAC is still being stood up, but I just PM’ed you a Vemno account which I assure you is totally a 501(c)(3) and totally tax deductible. 
 

 

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Or just send me gold bars. 

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Is the dog really biting that many people, is it right wing lies or is it hyperbole? I cannot believe anything they say anymore. 
 

Maybe the poor dog is angry because there is still a stench or Russian throughout the building. Or maybe he smells the Taliban from when they were invited into the White House. I mean who knows? He could be smelling any traitorous activity that happened previously at this point. 

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