-9- Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 The W ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Is there any news about the chase young injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 His future is bright but he got dominated tonight. He was being single blocked by TEs. Come back stronger next year CY. I wanna see 15 sacks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duffy Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: His future is bright but he got dominated tonight. He was being single blocked by TEs. Come back stronger next year CY. I wanna see 15 sacks. 25* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Eagerly anticipating GoatFrerotte’s return. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Warhead36 said: His future is bright but he got dominated tonight. He was being single blocked by TEs. Come back stronger next year CY. I wanna see 15 sacks. Yeah, was it Gronk? Certainly did a job on Chase. great season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ridger Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Chase Young was AWOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I grew so tired of the tv guys constantly showing Chase, talking about Chase constantly when he didn't make a damned play. Give it a rest and focus on the players who were playing better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said: I grew so tired of the tv guys constantly showing Chase, talking about Chase constantly when he didn't make a damned play. Give it a rest and focus on the players who were playing better. Yeah it was dumb on NBC's star track or whatever they show Brady's stats, even Heinecke's stats, then they show Young who had like 40 QB rushes and I think 1 hit? lmfao come on man. I love Young but he got dominated yesterday. He's not elite yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said: I grew so tired of the tv guys constantly showing Chase, talking about Chase constantly when he didn't make a damned play. Give it a rest and focus on the players who were playing better. The producers prepare a limited amount of special material on certain players, and the announcers often don't seem to be able to deviate from that. Give Dungy credit, though. By the 4th quarter, he was raving about Heinicke's play almost nonstop. Tirico was sticking to the script more (Brady and Chase). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 12 hours ago, Anselmheifer said: Is there any news about the chase young injury? Mild ankle sprain, no biggy. I hope he learned his lesson, only let your play on the field do the talking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Warhead36 said: Yeah it was dumb on NBC's star track or whatever they show Brady's stats, even Heinecke's stats, then they show Young who had like 40 QB rushes and I think 1 hit? lmfao come on man. I love Young but he got dominated yesterday. He's not elite yet. He’s elite. He’s just not Aaron Donald. Outside rushers have quiet games sometimes. Over the last 6 weeks of the season the only defensive player that PFF graded higher was Khalil Mack, and that was by 0.1 points. He was one of only 3 players to be top 10 in psd rush win rate and run stop %...as a rookie. He needs a better bull rush and inside power move. His inside speed moves are already good. If he could get his bull rush to the level of Montez Sweat even, he’d immediately be a 12-13 sack player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Anselmheifer said: He’s elite. He’s just not Aaron Donald. Outside rushers have quiet games sometimes. Over the last 6 weeks of the season the only defensive player that PFF graded higher was Khalil Mack, and that was by 0.1 points. He was one of only 3 players to be top 10 in psd rush win rate and run stop %...as a rookie. He needs a better bull rush and inside power move. His inside speed moves are already good. If he could get his bull rush to the level of Montez Sweat even, he’d immediately be a 12-13 sack player. Agreed. He does tend to be pushed outside on rushes a lot. He's gotta do a better job of learning how to disguise his momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Montez Sweat sucked as a rookie. Imagine if Chase can have the same kind’ve progression in his second season that Montez did. Edited January 10, 2021 by Sacks 'n' Stuff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said: He’s elite. He’s just not Aaron Donald. Outside rushers have quiet games sometimes. Over the last 6 weeks of the season the only defensive player that PFF graded higher was Khalil Mack, and that was by 0.1 points. He was one of only 3 players to be top 10 in psd rush win rate and run stop %...as a rookie. He needs a better bull rush and inside power move. His inside speed moves are already good. If he could get his bull rush to the level of Montez Sweat even, he’d immediately be a 12-13 sack player. The fact that he needs to learn all that makes him not elite. He's good to very good. But I think next year he'll make that elite jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 He’s 21 years old. It’s unreal how dominant he can be once he develops a consistent pass rush plan. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wit33 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, FrFan said: Mild ankle sprain, no biggy. I hope he learned his lesson, only let your play on the field do the talking Nope! Just live and be yourself. He’ll be alright. 39 minutes ago, PartyPosse said: Agreed. He does tend to be pushed outside on rushes a lot. He's gotta do a better job of learning how to disguise his momentum. Great game for him to watch again, again, and again during the off season. Pretty amazing to watch how connected Brady is with the Ts and understanding the depth and lines to avoid. Chase probably felt he was winning at times but Tom really doesn’t get much depth at all in the pocket and as I type this probably he big reason why he struggles with interior pressure. Edited January 10, 2021 by wit33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50yrSKINSfan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 36 minutes ago, Anselmheifer said: He’s elite. He’s just not Aaron Donald. Outside rushers have quiet games sometimes. Over the last 6 weeks of the season the only defensive player that PFF graded higher was Khalil Mack, and that was by 0.1 points. He was one of only 3 players to be top 10 in psd rush win rate and run stop %...as a rookie. He needs a better bull rush and inside power move. His inside speed moves are already good. If he could get his bull rush to the level of Montez Sweat even, he’d immediately be a 12-13 sack player. Agree. This is what I saw in his last few college games against decent tackles. He has a strong straight ahead bull rush but it is hard to overpower a guy who is 50 lbs heavier and who is training constantly to push a pass rusher outside and behind the pocket. Easier for the tackle if the pass rusher wants to go outside all the time by himself. One trick pony. Saw this many times. Happens when a guy who can overpower everyone when he is growing up so he does not have to develope correct technique as he can dominate with his natural strength. Problem happens when he gets to big time college and then the pros and everyone he goes up against are just as strong if not stronger and they have correct blocking techniques. That is when they have to develope some moves as a one dimensional pass rush is easy to coach against. Young needs a good fake to the outside then a strong switch to a inside rush with his right arm inside of the tackle. Is the Tampa line that strong? I do not recall one holding penalty against them all night. Think we did not get to Brady until the end when they replaced their center with a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It's almost like maybe Chase Young hit the "rookie wall". He really didn't seem himself last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, HigSkin said: It's almost like maybe Chase Young hit the "rookie wall". He really didn't seem himself last night. Also, the playoffs ratchet up the intensity level. Not many rookies are ready for that, from all the years I've watched. Chase had a great rookie year and is set to be a "Monster of the Mid-Atlantic" for years to come. He'll be even better if the WFT can find some LBs and DBs who are capable of making the opposing QB hold the ball just a little longer. Brady had guys open almost instantly, and he's never going to hold the ball for more than a split second in that circumstance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rskins91 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Man, I swear some of you try really hard to appear unbiased or something by saying Chase sucked or hit the rookie wall or should let his play do the talking, etc. Such an over correction. I’m not going to say he did well yesterday. He definitely had issues and wasn’t the dominant force he’s been the past month. But I’m sure that was helped by... I dunno, scheming around him, or Brady’s pocket awareness, or any other number of factors. I look forward to our DROY’s jump next year to bring more consistently elite. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50yrSKINSfan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 5 minutes ago, HigSkin said: It's almost like maybe Chase Young hit the "rookie wall". He really didn't seem himself last night. The NFL is filled with real good left tackles. It is a priority for every team. You are not going up against a guy from Miami of Ohio or the university of Cincinnati anymore. You are up against the best and their main job is to stone you and they get paid real good when they can do it so they work hard at it. Left tackles in the NFL are monsters these days. A must in this pitch and catch league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rskins91 said: Man, I swear some of you try really hard to appear unbiased or something by saying Chase sucked or hit the rookie wall or should let his play do the talking, etc. Such an over correction. I’m not going to say he did well yesterday. He definitely had issues and wasn’t the dominant force he’s been the past month. But I’m sure that was helped by... I dunno, scheming around him, or Brady’s pocket awareness, or any other number of factors. I look forward to our DROY’s jump next year to bring more consistently elite. Relax man, nobody is saying that he didn't have a phenomenal season. You are the one over correcting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins4eva Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Warhead36 said: The fact that he needs to learn all that makes him not elite. He's good to very good. But I think next year he'll make that elite jump. He needs to work on his pass rush skills. He really had nothing last night against a top LT. He hesitated off the ball and went outside almost every time. He looked slower to me than usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rskins91 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, HigSkin said: Relax man, nobody is saying that he didn't have a phenomenal season. You are the one over correcting. Explain how my post is an over-correction. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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