petey hodge Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 OK, we do not have the KC Chiefs flashy offense... We are what we are. But if you look at our strengths: Good D, Good RBs, Don't F-it-up QB. Are we really any different than the Ravens when they had Dilfer and Flacco? Could we control teams with our Defense and do the minimal amount on offense to win more games than people expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Better comparison is our situation to theres with Lamar Jackson. Apparently hes further ahead last year then Haskins was this year, but that's probably what we look like when Haskins does get in this year, last year Ravens team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 I think a good comparison would also be the Chicago Bears (this year's). Weak offense, strong defense. We're far from being the only one-sided team in the league. Our defense may not be as good as Chicago's, but I bet our offense will be better than theirs, despite all the doubts about our receivers and OL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Is this team different than the Ravens team with their defense and Dilfer when they won? Id say YES. I like our defense as much as the next guy but its way to early to compare this Skins Defense to one of the best defenses ever. That defense scored. That defense dominated teams. The skins defense just looks ok at this point. There is a long way to go before the two can be compared in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 14 minutes ago, Idaho fan said: The skins defense just looks ok at this point. Yea, it's basically how they look on paper, and potential, with players getting healthy and adding new talent. So there is at least reason for excitement. I will say this though ; Ray Horton is supposed to be legit. And if he can take our secondary, which has been the defensive weak spot until now, and also take the young talent and infuse them in a productive way, our secondary can definitely be around the same level as our Front 7. So I'm not ready to proclaim anything. But there is plenty of reason for optimism. And it may not be as good as the historic Ravens, but it doesn't need to be. It just needs to compensate, and actually over-compensate a little, for the weakness on offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartyPosse Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 36 minutes ago, Malapropismic Depository said: I think a good comparison would also be the Chicago Bears (this year's). Weak offense, strong defense. We're far from being the only one-sided team in the league. Our defense may not be as good as Chicago's, but I bet our offense will be better than theirs, despite all the doubts about our receivers and OL We'll never be close to them in terms of defense so long as we don't have a Khalil Mack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Ravens have a one-time Superbowl winning coach. We have a mediocre, at best, head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, petey hodge said: OK, we do not have the KC Chiefs flashy offense... We are what we are. But if you look at our strengths: Good D, Good RBs, Don't F-it-up QB. Are we really any different than the Ravens when they had Dilfer and Flacco? Could we control teams with our Defense and do the minimal amount on offense to win more games than people expect? Yes we are, because we dont yet have a good D. The whole good D thing is a myth, because we have the potential to have a great defense. But that defense has yet to actually show up for a whole season on the field, and finish top 10. The Ravens won with Flacco not because they had a good defense, but because they had a top 3 NFL defense, which we arent close to yet. We also dont have good RBs, we have AP and some unknowns. We also dont know what we have out of our new QB, and last season we were 1-6 with a QB not named Alex Smith starting. We could control teams with our defense, and win with a poor offense, but in order for that to happen our D has to step up to a level it never has before, and our offense has to be better than it was last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportjunkie07 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Peregrine said: Yes we are, because we dont yet have a good D. The whole good D thing is a myth, because we have the potential to have a great defense. But that defense has yet to actually show up for a whole season on the field, and finish top 10. The Ravens won with Flacco not because they had a good defense, but because they had a top 3 NFL defense, which we arent close to yet. I disagree. The Ravens won the superbowl because flacco had a crazy run in the playoffs, their defense was good but overrated. The earlier ravens' teams won because of their defense though, those defenses were some of the best ever. I would agree with you on your take of our defense. As to the OP. Sure things can work out for us, but our defense needs to turn potential into elite performance and we need to be able to control the clock, run the ball, and not **** up too much passing the ball. We're poised to do that eventually, but there are a lot of "ifs". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
profusion Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 The Gruden-era Redskins have been far too error- and penalty-prone to be able to succeed with ground-and-pound football, the way the Ravens did a couple times. I predict they'll be more like the Jaguars during the Bortles era--strong defense that can't overcome historically inept offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malapropismic Depository Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 The defense will be good. Jonathan Allen does not tolerate losing. Whether captain or unofficial captain, he will demand greatness from everyone, and strike fear in any teammate who underperforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Did you just ask what the difference is between a defense coming off a 20th ranked DVOA year (created by Bruce goddamn Allen no less) and one that is regarded as one of the greatest units of all time with multiple HOFers ??? seriously?? For real??? I get it. We’re frustrated that no one takes us seriously. But goodness, I’m seeing way too much nonsense from Skins fans the last few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 hours ago, petey hodge said: OK, we do not have the KC Chiefs flashy offense... We are what we are. But if you look at our strengths: Good D, Good RBs, Don't F-it-up QB. Are we really any different than the Ravens when they had Dilfer and Flacco? Could we control teams with our Defense and do the minimal amount on offense to win more games than people expect? Can you have good running backs without a good o-line though? Really concerned about the left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hail2skins Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Have heard Sheehan mention that Buffalo and Denver (who had Keenum) both had defenses ranked near the top last season. Both went 6-10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I was just thinking Keenan is way more likely to turn the ball over than Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c slag Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 To find the Redskins merchandise at walmart you have to dig past all of the Ravens stuff, so that's something similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CjSuAvE22 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Until this defense can stop a good offense they arent getting any kudos from me....Atlanta andNew orleans games were putrid showings last year ill even throw the giants game in there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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