Corcaigh Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, skinsmarydu said: Now, explain why tipped workers are making less. I'd love to hear that one. I’m only guessing, but one factor could be the tipping fatigue and a backlash against tipping prompts being ubiquitous even on self service such as buying a bar of chocolate at a gas station. Usually you have to press three or more buttons, where a single button ‘Are you ****ing kidding me” would be more appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Corcaigh said: I’m only guessing, but one factor could be the tipping fatigue and a backlash against tipping prompts being ubiquitous even on self service such as buying a bar of chocolate at a gas station. Usually you have to press three or more buttons, where a single button ‘Are you ****ing kidding me” would be more appropriate. Not only that. Every ****kng business is running some type of donate to charity round up your total scam now at checkout... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 36 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Not only that. Every ****kng business is running some type of donate to charity round up your total scam now at checkout... Yeah … let’s stop the checkout lines as old folks have to fish out their reading glasses to see what’s being presented to them on these ****ty scratched up LCD screens 🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Oh … and went out to lunch yesterday with some former coworkers. Because there were six of us I guess that they added an automatic 20% tip, and because it was charged automatically the gratuity has sales tax applied on top as it is considered a service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 hour ago, The Evil Genius said: Because non cash tips are being redirected by business owners? That'd be my guess. Personally. I think all positions should pay out at least at min wage. The idea of paying someone 1/3 of min wage and thinking tips will cover the rest is unsettling to me. I think "eliminate the below minimum wage" scam. Make businesses pay manimun wage, and charge accordingly. Get rid of the whole "Well, this item costs X$. But you're an asshole if you don't choose to pay X+20% (which may or may not go to the employee)" scam. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 $2.13 an hour is the minimum wage for tipped employees in North Carolina. That ****'s criminal. 🤷🏻♂️ 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 8 minutes ago, Captain Wiggles said: $2.13 an hour is the minimum wage for tipped employees in North Carolina. That ****'s criminal. 🤷🏻♂️ Whole new reason for fast food places to add the tip button to your payment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 @TheGreatBuzz From the election thread, $15k/yr to raise children? 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 12 minutes ago, Ball Security said: @TheGreatBuzz From the election thread, $15k/yr to raise children? 🤣 I was using rough numbers but I was going off this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 7 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I was using rough numbers but I was going off this. You can find estimates all over the place. https://www.lendingtree.com/debt-consolidation/raising-a-child-study/ Heaven forbid the child has any ongoing medical needs. Between premiums and out of pocket expenses, we easily spend $10-$12k a year on healthcare alone. The link I have says $3200 for food, that sounds reasonable, but on the low side. And that’s for parents who are fortunate to live in an area where the schools are passable and don’t have to use private schools. I agree with your main overall points in that thread, but wanted to point out that you were really underestimating child care costs. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 25 minutes ago, Ball Security said: You can find estimates all over the place. https://www.lendingtree.com/debt-consolidation/raising-a-child-study/ Heaven forbid the child has any ongoing medical needs. Between premiums and out of pocket expenses, we easily spend $10-$12k a year on healthcare alone. The link I have says $3200 for food, that sounds reasonable, but on the low side. And that’s for parents who are fortunate to live in an area where the schools are passable and don’t have to use private schools. I agree with your main overall points in that thread, but wanted to point out that you were really underestimating child care costs. Okay. Include my DoorDash budget too then to even it out. Remember we smoke alotta weed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Ball Security said: You can find estimates all over the place. https://www.lendingtree.com/debt-consolidation/raising-a-child-study/ Heaven forbid the child has any ongoing medical needs. Between premiums and out of pocket expenses, we easily spend $10-$12k a year on healthcare alone. I agree with your main overall points in that thread, but wanted to point out that you were really underestimating child care costs. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4sqgdwOE06/?igsh=ZDN1b2wwMjU4NG5u 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) People - Costs too much to raise kids. People without kids by choice - Should have done a cost benefit analysis first. 😆 Edited March 28 by The Evil Genius 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Every twice-divorced/deadbeat dad car salesman on the planet when I’m tweaking the pay plan and/or have a house deal “bone” to distribute. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, Ball Security said: You can find estimates all over the place. https://www.lendingtree.com/debt-consolidation/raising-a-child-study/ Heaven forbid the child has any ongoing medical needs. Between premiums and out of pocket expenses, we easily spend $10-$12k a year on healthcare alone. The link I have says $3200 for food, that sounds reasonable, but on the low side. And that’s for parents who are fortunate to live in an area where the schools are passable and don’t have to use private schools. I agree with your main overall points in that thread, but wanted to point out that you were really underestimating child care costs. That $15K that @TheGreatBuzz quoted might cover daycare expenses. I thought it was expensive when we were raising our boys, but it's gotten insanely expensive. I don't see how young parents afford can afford it. That said...if you waited until you could afford kids, you'd never have them! Thank God we're empty-nesters now. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 We were jealous of the people who had grandma and grandpa daycare to help out. And its been awhile. My wife worked part-time when we had Kindergarten and 3rd grade ages. It annoyed me since her income went to day care and it only lasted a month. It wasn't even daycare, just an afterschool program. She worked for 6 weeks and it wasn't worth her to keep working. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsfan1311 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 10 minutes ago, Fergasun said: We were jealous of the people who had grandma and grandpa daycare to help out. And its been awhile. My wife worked part-time when we had Kindergarten and 3rd grade ages. It annoyed me since her income went to day care and it only lasted a month. It wasn't even daycare, just an afterschool program. She worked for 6 weeks and it wasn't worth her to keep working. AMEN! My parents lived out of state, so that was never an option. I've never gotten the whole grandpa/grandma daycare thing. It's one thig to help out on occasion but to do something like that all the time?? Nope! We had 'em young, raised 'em right and sacrificed enough raising our own kids. I'll be damned if I'm going to raise grandkids! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 3 generation households have been the norm for more of human history than not. With America and the "go west young man" culture, we have praised the ability to move out, go it alone and make a name for oneself. That 2 generation household took away one source of childcare. Women entering and needing to enter into the regular workforce took away the other source of childcare. Now we outsource our childcare, whether to schools or daycare. The cost of these was always going to be big. It's just the cost was ignored when it was being paid by grandparents and moms. Edited March 28 by gbear 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) 3 gen households also started disappearing because grandparents are still expectd to be working 40 hr weeks in this new era. Most cant retire anymore at 55 or 60 with a pension. Edited March 28 by The Evil Genius 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 So greed >> inflation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterMP Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, The Evil Genius said: 3 gen households also started disappearing because grandparents are still expectd to be working 40 hr weeks in this new era. Most cant retire anymore at 55 or 60 with a pension. Retirement for most people is really mostly a post-WWII thing. Pre-WWII there were a lot of 3 generation house holds where there were multiple generations living if not in the same house then the same property. There are a couple of issues. We have issues with income/wealth inequality. But we also have issues with people thinking the post-WWII world/economy should be the norm. And I'm not sure that's the case. You can't ignore that much of the develop world was a destroyed and a generation+ of young workers were decimated in WWI and then again in WWII. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, PeterMP said: You can't ignore that much of the develop world was a destroyed and a generation+ of young workers were decimated in WWI and then again in WWII. You can if you are a Boomer. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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