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18 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said:

Didn't the medical staff tell Trent to get a second opinion?  I remember reading that earlier in this thread... seems like a lifetime ago.

 

When they told him that is probably the question.  They may have told him that after a few years of "dont worry about it".

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Trent Williams had a cancerous growth for six years that's seriousness was underestimated by team doctors, he told reporters a day after failing his physical because it was too uncomfortable to put on his helmet.

The bombshell news was the latest twist in what's been a drawn-out battle between the team and Williams, who has been holding out since the start of training camp. 

 

While the left tackle did not publicly speak during his holdout, multiple reports have surfaced that Williams was unpleased with the Redskins organization and vowed to never play for the organization as well.

He reported to the team at Tuesday's trade deadline, but did not participate in practice on Wednesday. 

"I guess nobody really took the time to realize what was going on," Williams said of the cancer, which he said was a rare tissue cancer DSFP. "Football was more important, and to me, it was more important, too. I was told it was something minor, so I didn't really question it.

"The lump continued to grow over the years, and it was concerning," Williams continued. "But there was no pain involved. "If I'm getting told by various people who I put my career in the hands of telling me that I'm fine, then I'm fine. That's how I looked at it."

This past offseason, Williams went to go get what he thought was a cyst removed. That's when he found out how serious this situation was.

 

"I went to go get the cyst extracted, and when they did it, they found out it wasn't a cyst," he said. "[They] told me it was DSFP. That's what the cancer is called. It's a very rare soft tissue cancer. The diagnosis that they gave me in the beginning, they kind of underestimated it," Williams said.

 

Williams also spoke about his relationship with his teammates, saying that none visited him for the two weeks he was in the hospital, according to NBC Sports Washington's JP Finlay. His former teammate DeAngelo Hall did visit him

 

Williams traveled to Chicago to get his most recent surgery done. The left tackle spoke about how scared he was prior to the operation, and the impact it had on his young daughters. "I was lucky," he told reporters.

During the holdout, Williams stated that there was "no communication" between himself and the front office. He did speak with his teammates throughout the entire process, however.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/trent-williams-doctors-underestimated-cancerous-growth-six-years

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14 minutes ago, JSSkinz said:

What is the connection to Bruce in all of this, there's something Bruce did that pissed off Trent and I wish we knew what it was, this could be the straw that breaks the camels back so we can finally move on from Bruce.

Let's not dig too deep with this.  Let's all just sit back and agree it's Bruce's fault.  Especially with Trent saying he has no problem with Dan, maybe Snyder recognizes his opportunity to play hero, and he finally cans Bruce.  Whether any of it is Bruces fault or not, who cares!

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7 minutes ago, JSSkinz said:

What is the connection to Bruce in all of this, there's something Bruce did that pissed off Trent and I wish we knew what it was, this could be the straw that breaks the camels back so we can finally move on from Bruce.

 

 

From JP Finley's story, it appears that the team doctors told him that it was a cyst, and that nobody visited him for 2 weeks after the surgery including teammates. Front Office never contacted him during the holdout. He had nothing but positive feelings toward Dan.

 

From what I read, while a player is either under contract with a team, the team provides all medical services for the player. I think it's because the team wants to make sure that a disease doesn't sneak up on a player.

 

And now I can see why Trent is pissed if they kept telling him it was a cyst and not a tumor or even getting him in to see a specialist.

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This story is mental. I don’t really know how to perceive it all. If I had some sort of cyst on my head/neck I would 100% take it seriously and get more than one opinion on it and make sure it isn’t cancer/anything serious and I don’t make millions of dollars or have a “medical” staff at my reach. I hope the guy is healthy and glad it didnt turn into any sort of cancer. Hope they figure it out. I didn’t watch the press conference but I heard he chuckled when asked if he wanted to be traded. Was it a laugh like yeah of course I wanted to be traded? 

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this sucks, but as a multi millionaire when one of your doctors refuses to do what you want you go to another doctor.  I assume they refused because this says he finally got them to do something with it

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Williams also spoke about his relationship with his teammates, saying that none visited him for the two weeks he was in the hospital, according to NBC Sports Washington's JP Finlay. His former teammate DeAngelo Hall did visit him

 

So he wants nothing to do with Bruce, AND the guys in the lockerroom too.  I mean, by his account, AP didnt go see him, nor did the rest of the OL didnt go are him.  And he made point to mention this, so you know it bothered him.  Now, telephones exist, folks could called him, or otherwise checked up on him, but visitation seemed like it mattered to him and nobody but DHall showed up.

4 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

Serious question, is the team’s medical staff knowledgeable in that particular area? If I was in that boat and concerned I would want to go see someone who specializes in that field. Especially if it’s an uncommon form of cancer.

 

If they werent, that's what referrals are for.  

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2 minutes ago, KillBill26 said:

Let's not dig too deep with this.  Let's all just sit back and agree it's Bruce's fault.  Especially with Trent saying he has no problem with Dan, maybe Snyder recognizes his opportunity to play hero, and he finally cans Bruce.  Whether any of it is Bruces fault or not, who cares!

I was thinking maybe Bruce asked him to keep it quiet or some other shady BS, that would be the kill shot for Bruce.

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Still think there is shared responsibility here, compounded by our awful excuse for a front office.

 

I sense that the ice is slightly broken through now, or maybe Trent is just playing it clever to get this year accrued. It seem a more genuine interview than that though.

 

My bet is now on a 2 year contract extension with the first two seasons starting 2020 fully guaranteed....:kickcan:

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8 minutes ago, PartyPosse said:

Serious question, is the team’s medical staff knowledgeable in that particular area? If I was in that boat and concerned I would want to go see someone who specializes in that field. Especially if it’s an uncommon form of cancer.

Sounds like he was naive enough to trust the team doctors, because there was no pain, he wasn’t worried about it.  He definitely has to put onus on himself for not taking it more seriously on his own, but I can see why he’d be salty at the team docs as well.

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Just now, JSSkinz said:

I was thinking maybe Bruce asked him to keep it quiet or some other shady BS, that would be the kill shot for Bruce.

Stop right there, you are making me giddy.

 

I don't want to start rumors or anything, but I have it on good authority that a couple years ago, Trent was really struggling in practice.  The dehydration was overwhelming.  He needed water immediately.  He knew he had a couple ounces left in his water bottle, he crawled to the sideline, looked up, and saw: 

 

 

 

 

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I mostly believe Trent's account of things, but it just seems odd to me that someone who has the means to go to their own hand picked doctor would wait 6 years to have a growth on his head looked at.  I don't care how minor it was/wasn't....if the growth is completely benign and non-lethal, why not get it removed anyway?  

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I got to digest more information including watching that press conference to land on an opinion.  But on first blush, I am not trashing a player as to how he handled or what he feels about his cancer scare. It's his personal ride.  It's obviously a much bigger issue than football. 

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5 minutes ago, mrcaniac said:

 

 

From JP Finley's story, it appears that the team doctors told him that it was a cyst, and that nobody visited him for 2 weeks after the surgery including teammates. Front Office never contacted him during the holdout. He had nothing but positive feelings toward Dan.

 

From what I read, while a player is either under contract with a team, the team provides all medical services for the player. I think it's because the team wants to make sure that a disease doesn't sneak up on a player.

 

And now I can see why Trent is pissed if they kept telling him it was a cyst and not a tumor or even getting him in to see a specialist.

 

I guess the fuzzy thing is blaming the "football people" for the medical professionals misdiagnosing something. Whatever you think of Bruce, he isn't a doctor.  He didnt say it was nothing, they did.  I would imagine they're not putting their medical reputation on the line because Bruce said to lie to Trent.

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