StillUnknown Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 although I hope he suffers every moment of the rest of his life, the day he stops breathing will be a good one 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamebreaker Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Notice he says "I beat the case", not "I didn't sleep with any underage girls". Huge difference. Whoever his lawyers are who allowed him to do this interview are idiots. Which is fine by me. Lock him up and let him try that black room **** with his cellmate. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 This interview is clearly a guy flying by the seat of his pants. "I beat the case" is the best he's got? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 I personally can put music and artists personal lives separate. I don't really care what MJ or R Kelly did in regards to listening to their music. I still like a lot of their music and will continue to do so. I mean a lot of the rappers I liked growing up aren't the best people but I don't care I like their jams. Same with movies. I hear people saying they don't want to watch a movie because X is in it and they don't like his personal life. I couldn't care less about that, just give me an entertaining movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 So you are saying that the talent outweighs the evils that people do? Nah. Sorry, I disagree. I can appreciate talent and separate the two...but not to the level of supporting or ignoring real life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purbeast Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Except I never said any of that. I just said that all the bad **** he has done has no effect on whether I enjoy his music or not. The music sounds the same whether he did what he did or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, purbeast said: Except I never said any of that. I just said that all the bad **** he has done has no effect on whether I enjoy his music or not. The music sounds the same whether he did what he did or not. With him i cant do it because so much of the content of his music is direct reflection of his actions. Cant hear those songs the same knowing he was likely thinking of a child 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Ain’t no way in hell the music of a child molestor is coming out of my car. I won’t support or validate success that includes that in the back drop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 They’re all ****ed up. Who’s your favorite artist? They are either a proven piece of **** or are a piece of **** whose **** hasn’t come out yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 No they aren't 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Springfield said: They’re all ****ed up. Who’s your favorite artist? They are either a proven piece of **** or are a piece of **** whose **** hasn’t come out yet. Yea, let's not go nuts here. RIP Tom Petty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 59 minutes ago, Springfield said: They’re all ****ed up. Who’s your favorite artist? They are either a proven piece of **** or are a piece of **** whose **** hasn’t come out yet. Nah, I don't think its fair or smart to paint all artists with that monolithic brush. If we hate when Trumpers do that to close their eyes to nuance and perpetuate false equivalency, we should make sure we don't fall prey to the same mistake as well. Although, somewhat to your point I've stopped listening to most of my old favorite rap artists after reforming myself and coming to the realization that gangster culture is a weak and immature mental mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 56 minutes ago, Fresh8686 said: Nah, I don't think its fair or smart to paint all artists with that monolithic brush. If we hate when Trumpers do that to close their eyes to nuance and perpetuate false equivalency, we should make sure we don't fall prey to the same mistake as well. Although, somewhat to your point I've stopped listening to most of my old favorite rap artists after reforming myself and coming to the realization that gangster culture is a weak and immature mental mindset. Its not just artists, it’s everyone. Everyone has their skeletons. It’s just how bad and how socially unacceptable those skeletons are. Some are child rapists, some are wife beaters, some are drug addicts, some are racists. Nobody is untouchable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted March 6, 2019 Author Share Posted March 6, 2019 I don't fit in the parameters that you are setting. Thank goodness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh8686 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Springfield said: Its not just artists, it’s everyone. Everyone has their skeletons. It’s just how bad and how socially unacceptable those skeletons are. Some are child rapists, some are wife beaters, some are drug addicts, some are racists. Nobody is untouchable. I feel you, but there is a huge space between most of the four things you mentioned and the garden variety flaws most people have and we need to find a way to perceptionally and emotionally reconcile that gap when making judgements about the groups of people we share space with. Otherwise, where does the monolithic judgement leave us? It just makes a person overly angry and mistrusting of everyone around them. I've sat in that hole before and it's better and smarter to add nuance and layers to one's perception of how people are. Especially when you factor in the seemingly inherent reality that negative perceptions are more impactful and stay with us longer than positive ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kosher Ham said: I don't fit in the parameters that you are setting. Thank goodness. I'm unclear if I do or not. What if I don't beat my wife but beat other people's wives? Asking for a friend. Edited March 6, 2019 by TheGreatBuzz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Kosher Ham said: I don't fit in the parameters that you are setting. Thank goodness. I don’t know what it is, but I’m pretty sure that you have something wrong with you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted March 7, 2019 Author Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Springfield said: I don’t know what it is, but I’m pretty sure that you have something wrong with you... Yes. I own it. I'm kinda an asshole at times. My biggest flaw is that I give too much and care too much. There is something a little bit crazy about everyone. At least I know what my problem is. Some folks deny or deflect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Kosher Ham said: Yes. I own it. I'm kinda an asshole at times. My biggest flaw is that I give too much and care too much. There is something a little bit crazy about everyone. At least I know what my problem is. Some folks deny or deflect. Im riddled with problems, faults and deviances. I pray that I never run for public office less they become public for all to shame me. Still love ya Kosh. Total hetero. Edited March 7, 2019 by Springfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Saw on SNL a bit where he said something to the effect of how can you support the Catholic church but judge people for still being an R Kelly fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Saw on SNL a bit where he said something to the effect of how can you support the Catholic church but judge people for still being an R Kelly fan. Because the Catholic Church has perfected whitewashing of its terrible human rights record over centuries. Edited March 10, 2019 by No Excuses 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Llevron Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 There is a real problem with our society that dudes like this have enough power to get away with it over and over and over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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