skinny21 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: Yeah the scary thing is now they don't need him, they have two other beasts We are better at takeaways. But they are good against the run, pass, points, yards -- the whole drill. Our defense not so. I think our D line is competitive with theirs. I think their MLBs kill ours. We got the better safeties. CB a toss up. When teams can game plan specifically to exploit our middle linebackers, I think that's a position in clear need for an upgrade. Agree with all of that, and on the aggregate, they’re probably a better D. Just not sure how much to weight those 11 extra takeaways - which both take points off the board (at times), give us better field position (at times), and can be morale boosters for our team and demoralizing for the opponent. I’ll also add, to your point, that I think their backers actually make their front look better than it is. Probably help the secondary in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 The takeaways are great, but takeaways/turnovers tend to be a very volatile stat. Teams that have a lot one year tend to not have as many the next year. People say yards don't matter, but at the end of the day, if your opponent isn't getting first downs on you or sustaining possession, they're not likely to score points. We are also awful on 3rd and 1. Teams are I believe 15/15 against us this year. Unbelievable. And we don't force enough punts. Our opponents have only punted a combined twice the last two games. Just for comparison, the Chiefs and Rams punted three and four times respectively this past MNF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 GAP control by our LB has been terrible otherwise this unit would be a top 5 unit in all of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bonez3 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 3 hours ago, skinfan2k said: GAP control by our LB has been terrible otherwise this unit would be a top 5 unit in all of football I've clearly seen this throughout the year. Felt like on a lot of big gainers the from 3 or four occupied and there was little second level blocking. Yet, Our LBs were late or nowhere near the hole. I wonder where Brown has been, anticipated much bigger role with this success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I really wonder how Alexander is doing in practice. Are they still thinking he'll be worth the pick? Is he a future starter? A playmaker? I thought we'd see more of him at least in a reserve role Why is the pre game taking vegetables and hybrid potatoes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabbypatty Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 We need them bama boys to step up big time for this one. They need to play like the season is on the line. Big Payne, Jon Allen, you guys need to ratchet up the pressure and get that damn #4 on the ground when he's in your grasp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Tim Settle would make the draft for me. There are a lot of guys I like late, but I believe Settle is a top 40 talent & he looked more impressive than either NCST DT to me. Absolutely phenomenal day from big Tim. He was the most disruptive force on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Front four played great today. Kept us in the game numerous times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I wonder if he knows Dunny didn't play last week. Thank you for being honest DJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 The DL(and I guess by extension Kerrigan/Smith)is the only unit on this team that's even above average at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 This play just bugs the crap out of me, we're already down 11 late in the 3rd and it created another turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Warhead36 said: The DL(and I guess by extension Kerrigan/Smith)is the only unit on this team that's even above average at this point. Swearinger more or less saying the defense can beat up on bad offenses otherwise they are in trouble. I am guessing after today's game they will be ranked somewhere in the 20s in yards allowed. This is an improved defense from last year. They are good at creating turnovers. The D line is good and hopefully continues to emerge . But, the overall defense is terrible on third down, they don't seem to be that clutch, and opponents can put up lots of yards on them including now on the ground. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000991460/article/dj-swearinger-on-redskins-d-we-dont-get-respect?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter We can go out there and do whatever on teams that ain't good. Like I said against Tampa, we can do whatever we want on teams that ain't good," Sweainger explained. "But when we got teams that can play with you, you got to prepare. You got to tackle. You got to do the simple things right. If you don't do the simple things right, you're going to get embarrassed on national TV. That's why we don't get respect as the Redskins. We don't do the simple s--- right. We do the simple s--- right, I guarantee you we get respect. So we don't [get] no damn respect. I see why we get disrespected because we don't win the big game. We got to win the big game. The Redskins can't run the ball anymore and they can't stop the run. Until that changes, it's going to be tough for them to win enough games to earn a playoff berth. That was evident after the 31-23 loss to the Dallas Cowboys that leaves the teams tied in the division. Ezekiel Elliott rushed for 121 yards. But it was also the big busted plays in the secondary, more so from missed tackles than just bad coverage. That led to touchdown passes of 40 and 90 yards. The Redskins' offense didn't receive a boost from Colt McCoy, who threw three interceptions and running back Adrian Peterson managed just 35 yards on 12 carries. The Redskins just make too many mistakes for a team with little margin for error. John Keim, ESPN Staff Writer3h ago This from a defense that wants to be respected? That preaches after every victory that things are different? That wants to lead a team to the postseason? Asked how disappointed he was in the defensive performance, Coach Jay Gruden said: “Very, very. Very, very, very.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/how-concerning-is-redskins-recent-defensive-play-very-very-very-very-very/2018/11/22/aeb4f26a-ee98-11e8-8679-934a2b33be52_story.html?utm_term=.c63d7524163f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinny21 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I’m happy with this dline, but we need (at least) one stud inside backer, and we need better corner play. The good news is that SDH should be good competition at ILB, the interior dline rotation is quite good, and we have a few young corners getting experience. The downside is that we might lose Preston, and I’m not sure how talented these young corners actually are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Well in fairness in today's NFL, you really aren't going to stop elite offenses anyway, but I understand the general premise. We don't really have a great scheme on D. We do fine when we can just outman/outmuscle weak offenses(Cardinals, Giants, first Cowboys game)or rely on takeaways(Panthers, Bucs)but otherwise we don't play sustainable defense. We give up too many chunks, particularly on 1st down, and can't get off the field on any 3rd and intermediate or less because we lack explosive pass rush and our secondary is always playing way off(bad coaching). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Looks like Mckinzey is out with a torn pec... the shallow gets shallower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Est.1974 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 14 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: The Redskins just make too many mistakes for a team with little margin for error. This is bang on. We have little margin for error if we want to come out on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, OVCChairman said: Looks like Mckinzey is out with a torn pec... the shallow gets shallower We are snakebit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 20 minutes ago, OVCChairman said: Looks like Mckinzey is out with a torn pec... the shallow gets shallower Galette? am guessing Bruce would be too stubborn to make that move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OVCChairman Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: Galette? am guessing Bruce would be too stubborn to make that move. I wouldn't hate it. We've been better with our pass rush, primarily on the interior, but some speed on the edge could be good. Preston appears to be coming on but every little bit out there helps. Heck, having a guy like Galette come in now might spark something in the defense... who knows... i'm grasping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 We have no explosive play makers, that’s why I preferred Derwin to Payne, but I do love Da’Ron. Allen, Payne, Matt, & Settle will be as good an interior as anyone in the nfl has heading into 2019, but we need significant upgrades at FS, #1 cb, ilb & Edge. Imo. I don’t think we are much better than whoever the worst team in the nfl is, we kept finding ways to move down in the draft, but yesterday, Tim Settle salvaged the season for me. That’s what you hope a top 3 pick looks like. That’s what Solomon Thomas was supposed to look like, but 20lbs heavier. If I could start a team with any player on the field yesterday, it would be Tim Settle. Looking at the players as if they had no history, Tim Settle was the one guy who could wreck a game plan by himself. That was the most impressive DT play I’ve seen in Washington in 25 years. That was absolutely astonishing to see. I can’t believe there isn’t more excitement here, he is the talk of many around the NFL today. The “holy ....” moments were noticed around the league, as was the transformation of his body. I’m going to have to gif it for the board, the ES family deserves something to be excited about and I, unknowingly, broke a rule....I need to make up fer it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Yes this is the best defense we've had in years. No, that is not a compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volsmet Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Trust in the kind & gentle volsmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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