PokerPacker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, DogofWar1 said: I wish Jackson had lasted that long in our draft, haha. I had him off my board in the first round. He's a one-hit-wonder and an extreme liability in the run game. If you run the ball right at him, he still won't get involved in the play. Seems GMs agree with me. 1 hour ago, Cypress said: Let me put it on record as saying if Derwin James had fallen to #17 I would have taken him too I couldn't believe the Packers had traded back to 27 with James sitting there. I mean, I get the appeal of grabbing another 1st rounder next year, but the Packers don't get very many opportunities to pick in the top 15, and there were a couple top-notch prospects sitting there waiting for them. I hope Jaire Alexander is ready to contribute in a big way, because there's only so much time left in Rodgers' career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Sooooo I already have my first, second and fourth round player drafted in the real draft. ? Anybody can beat that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, wilco_holland said: Sooooo I already have my first, second and fourth round player drafted in the real draft. ? Anybody can beat that? Well my first round pick was selected a few spots after I took him. And the guy I tried to trade up for in the 2nd got drafted. That's pretty close, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Rashaan Evans +7 Frank Ragnow +41 Terrel Edmunds +101 Current score +149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, wilco_holland said: Rashaan Evans +7 Frank Ragnow +41 Terrel Edmunds +101 Current score +149 Ragnow being off the board so early is one of the biggest shocks in an utterly mad first round to me. You look at what happened last night across the board and you think our evaluations ain’t so bad at all compared to some of the bat **** crazy NFL teams. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, wilco_holland said: Rashaan Evans +7 Frank Ragnow +41 Terrel Edmunds +101 Current score +149 Impressive! I'm currently -5 but am nipping at your heels! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComManDersFan57 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I am working on a spreadsheet for an initial grade for all of us. (I know, we can't make a true assessment for a few more years.) I've made two grading categories and a bonus for making a pick in the same slot as the NFL. Both categories take the difference between our mock picks and actual picks. The first uses the Jimmy Johnson draft values so that picks in the early rounds have more weight than those in the later rounds.The second just uses the pick numbers. Both categories are divided by the number of picks a team had in the mock. So far, 11 teams have positive values! Congratulations are in order. Two other teams presently show positive values since they took players in later rounds but their first round picks weren't taken so their scores will eventually drop. (Steelers and 49ers) It doesn't look like anyone will be able to catch the Jags. @wilco_holland is presently sitting at a +149 differential. That's amazing to say the least. Congrats!! The Broncos are in second place at +54. The other teams in the plus column are: 3. Ravens 4. Colts 5. Dolphins 6. Browns 7. Rams 8. Lions 9. Chargers 10. Bills 11. Jets When the draft is finalized I'll upload the completed sheet to Dropbox. Edit: The values are not yet divided by the number of picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Gibbs Hog Heaven said: Ragnow being off the board so early is one of the biggest shocks in an utterly mad first round to me. You look at what happened last night across the board and you think our evaluations ain’t so bad at all compared to some of the bat **** crazy NFL teams. Hail. I was more surprised by the other Edmunds brother than Ragnow. I assumed Pitt wasn't paying attention and grabbed the wrong one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 14 hours ago, wilco_holland said: Sooooo I already have my first, second and fourth round player drafted in the real draft. ? Anybody can beat that? Impressive on your end. You got me by one. My first and 2nd round pick made the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Gibbs Hog Heaven said: Ragnow being off the board so early is one of the biggest shocks in an utterly mad first round to me. You look at what happened last night across the board and you think our evaluations ain’t so bad at all compared to some of the bat **** crazy NFL teams. Hail. I would rather say that experts from the NFL believe Ragnow is a 1st round talent, while our ES experts believes he's a second or Terrell Edmunds is only worth a 4th rounder... So, no That does not look good to our scouting ability, because we hardly recognize a good player when we see one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Wildbunny said: I would rather say that experts from the NFL believe Ragnow is a 1st round talent, while our ES experts believes he's a second or Terrell Edmunds is only worth a 4th rounder... So, no That does not look good to our scouting ability, because we hardly recognize a good player when we see one 1 Joking aside, on Ragnow, word is it's all down to football commitment and toughness. A lot of clubs have him graded way higher on attitude and desire over the FAR more talented/ higher talent graded Daniels. And with O-line by SO sparse in quality, had to take him high. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Gibbs Hog Heaven said: Joking aside, on Ragnow, word is it's all down to football commitment and toughness. A lot of clubs have him graded way higher on attitude and desire over the FAR more talented/ higher talent graded Daniels. And with O-line by SO sparse in quality, had to take him high. Hail. True. Sometimes I wonder why NFL teams value talent more than everything else. To me, attitude, commitment, work ethic, coachability and everything that goes with it is priority 1 when drafting a guy. If he doesn't have all of these attributes, he'll be a good player at best, living on his talent and poor ceiling and at worst, he'll bust quite fast as coaches won't be able to take him anywhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Wildbunny said: True. Sometimes I wonder why NFL teams value talent more than everything else. To me, attitude, commitment, work ethic, coachability and everything that goes with it is priority 1 when drafting a guy. If he doesn't have all of these attributes, he'll be a good player at best, living on his talent and poor ceiling and at worst, he'll bust quite fast as coaches won't be able to take him anywhere... Which all makes doing a mock that much harder as we can only evaluate what we see. Unlike actual scouts who get to talk to these guys and everyone else connected to them under the sun to ascertain these things. Completely agree BTW. And FWIW, our take of Payne plays into all that. Saban gushes about his toughness and 100% dedication and commitment. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 We don't get the benefit of the in-depth interviews or the full medical history which can decide plenty. I won't be reading into anything for another 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Time to see where our guys go, day 2 version So far... 1. SAQUON BARKLEY went 2 (-1) 4. JOSH ALLEN went 7 (-3) 33. JAIRE ALEXANDER (+15) 35. CONNOR WILLIAMS (-15) 64. JESSIE BATES III (+10) 114. JEROME BAKER (+41) 132. TARVARUS MOORE (+37) 165. PJ HALL (+108) All 8 Browns picks chosen in top 95. +192 and other picks 180. DAURICE FOUNTAIN 187. KALEN BALLAGE 202. MICHAEL DICKSON 255. MICHAEL JOSEPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baughlin' Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 The real Bears drafted Anthony Miller in the 2nd. I get to see the tandem I dreamed up happen in real life, very cool. Then a few picks later MJ Stewart goes 2 rounds earlier than I picked him. Not a horrible start. EDIT aaand Chad Thomas went a round earlier just now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Too soon, Epoch. Day two ain't over yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Well there goes Rudolph. Honestly fine with that. I figured in ours (and IRL) Saints had one pick before he'd be gone. It was do or die. No problem doing. I like that he gets to sit behind Big Ben for a bit. Learn the craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, PokerPacker said: Too soon, Epoch. Day two ain't over yet! Not until all the Browns have been drafted of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Well for Day 2, I had two guys go in the 2nd and one in the third. Lorenzo Carter: I figured it was a reach when I took him, but my target was taken just a hint before my pick, it was late, and nobody was trading (then the next morning a stupid GM lamented about not being able to trade up after having not even talked to me after I announced my desire to trade back >:() Anyways, he went about 20 picks after I took him dropping to the top of the 3rd. Mike Gesicki: I trade up for him at the end of the 2nd and he went early/mid 2nd. Dante Pettis: Took him in the 4th, went just a couple picks after Gesicki. Looking pretty good so far, especially since I already knew Carter was a reach, and he didn't fall as far as he potentially could have with the uncertainty surrounding his value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 So interesting... I picked Donte Jackson 1 pick early, and I picked Rasheem Green 1 pick early. Breeland Speaks was someone I had targeted for the third, but Rasheem Green was someone I rated higher and took earlier so I passed on him. I had the positional need idea right, but the value wrong apaprently Got DJ Chark a good bit later than he went. Definitely felt like a value pick at the time of our draft, so was happy to see him go higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Let me enjoy my current score of +254. Because now it will only go down I expect. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epochalypse Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 Day 3 just tracking my non-Browns now. 180. DAURICE FOUNTAIN (+21) 187. KALEN BALLAGE (+56) 202. MICHAEL DICKSON (+53) 255. MICHAEL JOSEPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 ? the 3th round WR pick is killing me. That one player is going to kill more hole positive score. NFL wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypress Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Seeing the flyer you took in the late rounds go to the Packers and have A-Rod throwing you the ball is pretty cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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