General Mass Shooting Thread (originally Las Vegas Strip)

[Larry]

There is a thread for discussing gun control. 

[TheGreatBuzz]

1 hour ago, Larry said:

There is a thread for discussing gun control. 

Good point.  Sorry.  Moved to the gun control thread.

Edited July 24, 2022 by The Almighty Buzz

[Dan T.]

 

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[China]

So many mass shootings that people think actual shootings are just a drill?

 

A Security Guard Allegedly Thought The Oxford School Shooting Was A Drill And That A Bleeding Student Had “Really Good Makeup” On

 

A security officer at Oxford High School allegedly thought the deadly November 2021 shooting was an active shooter drill, telling investigators that she assumed a bleeding victim she walked past had "really good makeup" on.

 

Kimberly Potts, a retired law enforcement official who was employed by Oxford Community Schools as an armed security officer at the time, also allegedly opened the door of a bathroom that two students and the shooting suspect were in, closed the door, and walked away. One of the students hiding was later shot in that bathroom and died the next day.

 

These new allegations were revealed on Wednesday by the victims' families and their lawyer, Ven Johnson. The families are now seeking to include Potts as a defendant in their civil lawsuit over the Michigan school shooting that killed four students and injured several more.

 

The families did not know about Potts's involvement until Johnson reviewed surveillance video of the shooting at the prosecutor's office recently, the lawyer said at a press conference Wednesday. The video has not been shared with the public because it's under a court protective order.

 

In the video, Potts is seen walking "casually" down the hallway during the shooting. She later told investigators that she assumed it was an ALICE drill, a lockdown training to prepare students for an active shooter, the filing said.

 

Potts then came across one of the victims, 16-year-old Tate Myre, bleeding on the ground after being shot. She told investigators she thought he had "really good makeup on" as part of the ALICE drill, according to the filing.

 

The video also shows Potts peeping into the bathroom where Justin Shilling, Keegan Gregory, and alleged shooter Ethan Crumbley were in, the families alleged. Potts told investigators that she did not go inside the bathroom, where Shilling was later killed, because she didn't see or hear anything.

 

"Ms. Potts clearly had an opportunity to intervene and prevent Justin’s death," the filing said.

 

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[China]

On 7/23/2022 at 11:31 AM, China said:

Man accused of threats to shoot Buffalo grocery customers

 

A suburban Seattle man has been arrested and accused of threatening to shoot Black customers at a grocery store in Buffalo, New York, according to a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court.

 

Joey George, 37, is charged with making interstate threats and is scheduled to appear in court Friday afternoon, The Seattle Times reported.

 

George phoned a Buffalo grocery store twice in July threatening to shoot Black people in the store and ranting about a “race war,” the complaint said.

 

On May 14, a shooter killed 10 Black people and hurt several others at Tops Friendly Supermarket in Buffalo. A 19-year-old white man with ties to white supremacy has pleaded not guilty to federal hate crime charges.

 

George did not call the same store but referenced it in his threat, prosecutors said.

 

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Lynnwood man indicted for making racially motivated interstate threats

 

A Lynnwood man was indicted by a federal grand jury on Thursday for a hate crime and four counts of interstate threats, according to a media release from the Department of Justice.

 

Joey David George, 37, is currently detained at the Federal Detention Center in SeaTac.

 

According to records in the case, on July 19 and 20, George allegedly telephoned a grocery store in Buffalo, New York and threatened to shoot Black people in the store.

 

In a second call, George allegedly ranted to an employee about a “race war.”

 

The Buffalo grocery store was the Tops Friendly Markets, where 10 people were shot and killed in May.

 

Law enforcement was able to trace the phone number and identified George as the caller.

 

George is also charged with a phone call in May to a restaurant in San Bruno, California, where he allegedly threatened to shoot Black and Hispanic customers.

 

George is also charged with making threats to a business in Maryland and making bomb threats to a restaurant in Connecticut.

 

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Edited August 4, 2022 by China

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[Dan T.]

^ ^ ^ What a Lollapa-loser.

[China]

AR-15s put in all Madison County schools to enhance security in case of active shooter

 

In response to the Texas school shooting that left 19 children dead May 24, the local school system and Sheriff's Office are rolling out some beefed up security measures in 2022-23, including putting AR-15 rifles in every school.

 

"We were able to put an AR-15 rifle and safe in all of our schools in the county," Harwood said. "We've also got breaching tools to go into those safes. We've got extra magazines with ammo in those safes."

 

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[Larry]

Do we have . . . officers who are trained with these weapons?  (Or is the plan to use untrained school personnel?)  

 

And, if said officers are trained with the weapons, then why aren't the weapons in the hands of the officers?  (Or their cars?)  

 

Could it possibly be that this is actually just a publicity move from a gun-nut Sheriff, who is choosing to place a particular brand of "assault weapon", into every school in the district, and who cares what the real-world results are as long as the Sheriff remains true to his team identity?  

[TradeTheBeal!]

Why AR-15s?  Why not hunting rifles or handguns?

[Larry]

13 minutes ago, TradeTheBeal! said:

Why AR-15s?  Why not hunting rifles or handguns?

Because it's a political publicity move, to try to promote the continuation of a policy of "anybody who walks up to the counter should be handed one on the spot". 

Oh. And remember, don't you loyal gun supporters allow people to get away with calling it an "assault weapon". It's just the weapon which we have chosen to equip our rapid response force with, at their pre-staged weapons cache, next to the breaching tools. Because we all know that breaching tools don't have anything to do with an assault. 

 

[TheGreatBuzz]

Seems like an odd choice for a school building.  I'd have suggested a Sig MPX or something similar. 

Edited August 6, 2022 by The Almighty Buzz

[CousinsCowgirl84]

32 minutes ago, The Almighty Buzz said:

Seems like an odd choice for a school building.  I'd have suggested a Sig MPX of something similar. 

Well, no one suggesting putting guns in schools gives two ****s about the kids that are dying there.

[Metalhead]

4 hours ago, China said:

AR-15s put in all Madison County schools to enhance security in case of active shooter

 

In response to the Texas school shooting that left 19 children dead May 24, the local school system and Sheriff's Office are rolling out some beefed up security measures in 2022-23, including putting AR-15 rifles in every school.

 

"We were able to put an AR-15 rifle and safe in all of our schools in the county," Harwood said. "We've also got breaching tools to go into those safes. We've got extra magazines with ammo in those safes."

 

Click on the link for the full article

 

An open advertisement to all prospective shooters. Everything they need is already inside. If we are reading this then they are reading this too.

[CousinsCowgirl84]

4 minutes ago, Metalhead said:

 

An open advertisement to all prospective shooters. Everything they need is already inside. If we are reading this then they are reading this too.

I mean, most school shooters are cowards so I don’t think they are going to assault someone for their assault rifle. But probably one of these gun toting bumbling security offices will accidentally discharge there assault rifle spraying bullets in the cafeteria by accident. Either that or he finds out his wife was cheating on him and decides to take out is angst in a public way.

 

but let’s say none of that happens, then I guess all we have to deal with is the trama inflicted on school children when the school turns into a military barracks because 2nd amendment absolutists can deal with the real problem.

[TheGreatBuzz]

25 minutes ago, CousinsCowgirl84 said:

Well, no one suggesting putting guns in schools gives two ****s about the kids that are dying there.

 

Yea, there is that part too.

[China]

4 dead at multiple crime scenes in Ohio town. Police are searching for a man who is likely armed and dangerous

 

Four people were fatally shot Friday at multiple sites in a small Ohio town just north of Dayton, and police are searching for a man who is possibly connected to the shootings.

 

Stephen Marlow, a "person of interest," is likely armed and dangerous, Butler Township Police Chief John Porter said at a media briefing.

 

"Stephen Marlow remains the primary suspect," Butler Township Police said in a statement Saturday via Facebook. "We have no current information to make us believe others were involved in these horrific acts."

"Following the shootings, it appears Stephen Marlow drove to Interstate 70 and headed west," the statement added. "At this time, we believe that he has left Ohio. Law enforcement agencies in multiple states have been made aware of this and are on high alert."

Earlier, FBI said Marlow has ties to Lexington, Kentucky, Indianapolis and Chicago and may be in one of those cities.

Porter said Marlow is 5'11" and about 160 pounds, with brown hair. Authorities believe Marlow, 39, was wearing shorts and a yellow T-shirt and fled in a white 2007 Ford Edge.

Authorities have asked anyone with information to contact the FBI. They said Marlow should not be approached.

Police responded to a report of shots fired just before noon Friday, Porter said, and the four victims died at the scenes.

 

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[Larry]

"Five people have been shot. Police are looking for someone who is armed and dangerous."

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None of the victims were in critical condition, and it was unclear if they were targeted.

 

[China]

Officials refuse to answer key questions about Uvalde response probes as anger grows

 

As details about failures of the police response to the school massacre in Uvalde, Texas, have trickled out through leaks and incomplete official reviews, it's still not clear more than two months later to what extent any of the agencies involved are investigating individual and systemic mistakes in the response to the most deadly US campus shooting in nearly a decade.

 

Residents, policing experts, other law enforcement officials, state leaders and lawmakers all have criticized police from more than 20 agencies on scene that day for the delay in confronting a spree shooter who was in classrooms at Robb Elementary for more than an hour with 21 people he fatally shot and 17 others injured.

 

Officials representing agencies involved in the immediate response largely have avoided talking about their internal investigations -- if acknowledging them at all -- including whether their goals include discipline for officers or others, or a focus on how similar incidents could be handled better, or both. Also not entirely clear are steps they may be taking to minimize potential bias as they investigate themselves.

Officials with the city of Uvalde and the state of Texas since mid-July have said they're reviewing their police departments in light of the May 24 mass killing, with the city placing its acting chief that day on leave. School district officials have put the chief of their own separate police department on leave as they consider firing him and briefly suspended the Robb Elementary principal.

Still, frustration and anger have mounted in this grieving community. With the gunman dead at the hands of law enforcement -- albeit after 77 minutes in the school -- getting a full and true picture of what happened that day, along with consequences for police, are seen as tangible vehicles to justice in the face of so much lost life.

At Uvalde school district and city council meetings this week, community members again pressed their elected officials on why officers at the school that day haven't been relegated to desk duty or fired. The school district superintendent also was asked why he had not sought an independent investigation into the tragedy, and the mayor was pressed on how and why the city chose an Austin, Texas, investigator to lead its internal review.

 

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[China]

Must be another day that ends in y.