2018 Comprehensive NFL Draft Thread

[HTTRDynasty]

5 minutes ago, HoggLife said:

Is it just me or does it seem I watch the draft each year and right before our pick they go to a commercial break then come back and the next team has drafted so they dont talk about our pick much? 

 

Yeah, I remember watching re-runs of past drafts leading up to the draft last year.  Happened pretty much every single time.

[Why am I Mr. Pink?]

4 minutes ago, HoggLife said:

Is it just me or does it seem I watch the draft each year and right before our pick they go to a commercial break then come back and the next team has drafted so they dont talk about our pick much? 

 

YES .. it seems like every year w the Skins. Of course it might happen to half the teams picking after the 10th overall or so. 

 

My ideal scenario at 13 (same as everyone elses):

 

James

Ward

Fitz

R Smith

Edmunds  

 

If none of the above are there, would love to trade down 3-8 spots. 

[HTTRDynasty]

Man... I just realized how bad the booing is going to be for Goodell this year.  Might break a record.

[RabidFan]

Just now, HTTRDynasty said:

Man... I just realized how bad the booing is going to be for Goodell this year.  Might break a record.

 

Maybe the are saying "GOOOOOdell"

[Bobby Peppers]

I just watched 40 minutes of highlight reals on YouTube of Payne, Vea and Hurst. I won't post them as it's very easy to search but it seems to me that it's clear who the best of the bunch is. Now highlight reals are obviously misleading however, when your highlight real shows a lot of luck situations, I'm not impressed. IE; the guy who doesn't cause the disruption but benefits from the disruption. It's very easy to see who the best interior DL in this draft is. Take a quick look for yourselves. In won't take 40 minutes but rather 5. 

[Bobby Peppers]

27 minutes ago, nonniey said:

I'd say there are only two likely elite in the class  -  Barkley and Nelson  (B Chubb is a maybe).   I'd be willing to trade up for either of them if they drop within range but no one else. I'd take any of the others you ID'd at 13 and agree best to trade down if they are all gone.

 

You're absolutely correct... Elite wasn't the correct word. I really just meant prospects who are way above the rest with a considerable difference. I would of thrown in Edmunds based on the consensus but I'm not convinced. He has all the athletic traits and could be great since he's so young but I'd need more of a sample size..  

[Skinsinparadise]

Before 13: 

Baker Mayfield, J. Allen, J. Rosen, S. Darnold, Barkley, Q. Nelson. Chubb.  7 players

 

So 5 players left among:  D. James, M. Fitzpatrick, D. Ward, R. Smith, Edmunds

 

So the only way we are left without one of the top  5 players below is no surprises -- zip, nada.  All the mocks with Vea or McGlinchey or Landry or what was said today about L. Jackson might go early -- none of that happens.  Instead, we get a by the book predictable draft.   That almost never happens.  Will see.

 

If it goes down that way, I'd be ok with Vea at 13 but my main preference then would be to try to trade down.  My worst case scenario is taking Payne at 13.  If you trade down for him fine -- but the only team that seems salivating to take Payne early is the Redskins judging at least by buzz.   Payne has been as far down as the 2nd round now in multiple mocks including Jeremiah's.  And Jeremiah I recall had one of the most accurate mocks last year.

 

Right now for me:

1. Fitzpatrick

2. James

3. R. Smith

4. Edmonds

5. Ward

6. Vea

No one else entices me at 13 that has a fighting chance to drop. 

 

If trading down lets say into the teens or early 20s

1. Guice or Michel (if health-background check out for either)

2. Vander Esch

3. H. Landry 

4. Hernandez or Ragnow

5. D. Moore

6. Da'Ron Payne

7. Taven Bryan

 

 

[JamesMadisonSkins]

7 minutes ago, Bobby Peppers said:

I just watched 40 minutes of highlight reals on YouTube of Payne, Vea and Hurst. I won't post them as it's very easy to search but it seems to me that it's clear who the best of the bunch is. Now highlight reals are obviously misleading however, when your highlight real shows a lot of luck situations, I'm not impressed. IE; the guy who doesn't cause the disruption but benefits from the disruption. It's very easy to see who the best interior DL in this draft is. Take a quick look for yourselves. In won't take 40 minutes but rather 5. 

Literally did what you just said. I'm far from an expert, but from what I saw, all 3 are extremely good players who can cause disruption.

 

Vea seems to just overpower people. Payne is a bit of a combo. Hurst is much more of a technician than a power guy. Just my $.02.

[Burgold]

4 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Before 13: 

 

If it goes down that way, I'd be ok with Vea at 13 but my main preference then would be to try to trade down.  My worst case scenario is taking Payne at 13.  If you trade down for him fine -- but the only team that seems salivating to take Payne early is the Redskins judging at least by buzz.   Payne has been as far down

 

 

Just to be contrarian, the fact that no one is talking about Payne, but they are talking about the others may be a sign that everyone is really excited about Payne and no one is willing to tip their hands for fear that someone might jump them.

[HigSkin]

If the 30 year old Gerald McCoy rumor has legs, would you all trade for him? 

 

Something straight up lower round picks, our 1st and Tampa gives up their higher 2nd + McCoy or no way we should even consider it?

 

 

[JamesMadisonSkins]

1 minute ago, HigSkin said:

If the 30 year old Gerald McCoy rumor has legs, would you all trade for him? 

 

Something straight up lower round picks, our 1st and Tampa gives up their higher 2nd + McCoy or no way we should even consider it?

McCoy isn't really a 3-4 fit is he? Maybe as an End but not as a nT?

[HTTRDynasty]

LMAO

 

 

[BigHuv21]

34 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said:

Man... I just realized how bad the booing is going to be for Goodell this year.  Might break a record.

He's being escorted to the stage by Staubach, Aikman and Witten so he wont be booed. All 3 generations of possible people in attendance covered

[The Consigliere]

1 hour ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Laconfora's mock.  I saw a web site that said he had the most accurate pre draft mock last year.  I'd gag if it goes down like this -- not only skipping Fitzpatrick but doing it for Payne. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/la-canforas-2018-nfl-mock-draft-giants-surprise-at-no-2-bills-trade-up-to-get-their-qb/

 

I don't know if you have tickets on the floor but I saw on TV it looked like they divided sections for fans.  the Redskins section looked to be on the right side -- not that far from the stage, if you sit there, you have a shot at TV I'd presume.  I would assume they will pan to each fan section just before and just after the pick.

Pretty sure he didn't. Some dude in Wisconsin usually wins, but I think some other obscure dude won last year.

 

Kind of a pointless win. My only complaint is when people aren't clear about whether their mock is what they would do given the needs and BPA, or what they hear from sources.

 

The latter can be helpful (smokescreen or true), the former isn't. 

[Why am I Mr. Pink?]

Thats cute. Didnt realize Cravens is trying to "brand" himself with his own name logo ala rg3. 

 

c'est la vie i suppose

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Rumors were McCoy was going to raiders for their 2nd rounder. 

 

McCoy, who turned 30 last month, remains a front-line player at the position. He is signed through 2020, with base salaries between $10 million and $13 million, and only $500,000 of proration remaining, all in 2018.

 

https://www.bucsnation.com/2018/3/7/17089208/gerald-mccoy-trade-to-raiders-offered-up-as-a-possibility

 

Lets see, we could:

 

A.    Resign Scherff to a LTD to bring his cap hit next year of 12.5M down and draft a interior OL in the 2nd round on the cheap for the next 4 years

 

or

 

B.    Trade our 2nd rounder for an expensive wrong-side-of-30 big body, eating up 10-13M over the next 3 years and limiting our ability to resign Scherff or Smith.    

[HigSkin]

11 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said:

McCoy isn't really a 3-4 fit is he? Maybe as an End but not as a nT?

 

Yea, he was a DE in their 3-4 last year because Chris Baker played the middle but Buc's are actually moving to a true 3-4 this year.  McCoy was drafted as a 3-tech.

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

12 minutes ago, HigSkin said:

If the 30 year old Gerald McCoy rumor has legs, would you all trade for him? 

 

Something straight up lower round picks, our 1st and Tampa gives up their higher 2nd + McCoy or no way we should even consider it?

 

 

 

No. But when Dorsey takes Chubb at 4 to bookend what will be the leagues top two ends after Garrett last year, I'm calling him about Ogbah to see if there's anything doing. 

 

But that would be too much thinking outside the box for our amateur GM. 

 

Hail. 

[Califan007 The Constipated]

14 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said:

LMAO

 

 

 

How did he NOT see that coming lol...

[crabbypatty]

Here's another possibility that most hadn't considered.. Jordan Howard is still supposedly dangling as trade bait. Maybe teams are waiting until the draft to try and get him for a 5th or something like that. I'd feel better about the skins drafting a DL at 13 if they had a deal for Howard waiting in the wings

[Anselmheifer]

I'm settling into the likelihood of Vea at 13. I actually think I would prefer Vea at 13 and Reid in round 2, to James at 13 and a second round DT.

 

Per Espn:

 

39. Justin Reid, S, Stanford* (85)

Reid grades out as a plug-and-play starter at free safety. He's a ballhawk with excellent speed and athleticism who has experience playing safety, nickel and cornerback. While he certainly can handle a versatile role in the NFL, we think he's at his best working as a center fielder in a single-high safety look.

 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/justin-reid?id=32462018-0002-5601-9880-2ac673bf0eed

 

I'd also be happy with OL in round 2, or BPA. 

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

Screw it. 

 

Let's just trade up (if necessary) for James.

 

"Good fortune favors the bold".

   

[Est.1974]

At this stage I'm settling on the guess that we look to draft a combination from Payne,  Price, Josh Jackson and Guice or Jones II through two rounds (by trading back for an extra pick or two).

[HigSkin]

Good grief, if this happens there's going to be some crazy trading to the top!

 

hmmmmm....

 

[Est.1974]

Mayfield at 1 then trade out of 4 for a raft of picks. Load up on talent though the first two rounds. Good plan.

[Skinsinparadise]

1 hour ago, Burgold said:

Just to be contrarian, the fact that no one is talking about Payne, but they are talking about the others may be a sign that everyone is really excited about Payne and no one is willing to tip their hands for fear that someone might jump them.

 

Payne then is one of the biggest secrets in the first round with only the Redskins struggling to contain their enthusiasm openly.   Personally, I doubt it.  I wouldn't hate it if they took Payne but for me by a mile its the biggest "meh" pick at 13.  If you trade down and get a pick, I wouldn't hate it.  I am definitely in the Vea > Payne camp.