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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Presidential Election :11/3/2020- Trump the Impeached vs Superplanner Lizzie & some other Dems

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3 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

 

He's from Brooklyn and NY has plenty of socialists.

 

He draws that much in solid red areas; then that's really something.

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5 hours ago, Rdskns2000 said:

He's from Brooklyn and NY has plenty of socialists.

 

He draws that much in solid red areas; then that's really something.

 

Wasnt there another kinda fringey “outsider” politician recently that liked to brag about his crowds?

 

Ronald or Donald something?

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13 minutes ago, TryTheBeal! said:

 

Wasnt there another kinda fringey “outsider” politician recently that liked to brag about his crowds?

 

Ronald or Donald something?

Obama?

 

 

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Mayor Pete coming up on Meet The Press.  

 

I really don;t follow politics that much.  Pretty much everything I know, I get from here.  But I saw him on this show a while back, and really liked him, at least as a person.  (Don't think he's qualified to be POTUS.  But I wouldn't mind him becoming more influential in the Dem Party.  Maybe have a big role, down the road.)  

 

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I still don't think his resume says he's qualified.  But I think he handled several question, which I think were some pretty heavy questions, pretty well.  

 

(Yeah, I think there were some questions where he didn't have really detailed answers.  But I also think they were questions for which there aren't simple answers.  There is no simple way to fix the damage Trump has done in the last week or two.  I think his answers to questions like those, while they weren't simplistic, bumper sticker, instant fixes, did reqognize those factors that need to be juggled.)  

 

I haven't really seen much from the other candidates, so I'm not planning on trashing them.  But I'll say Mayor Pete has a really positive look, to me.  

 

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11 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

I never believed Tulsi was a Russian asset til twa started defending her.

 

The Ruskies have even gotten to Beto.....be afraid.

 

 

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This presents an optics problem. Infighting with accusations of being a Russian plant waters down the argument against trump. Needlessly so. 
 

If the goal is to oust trump we’re better served by Clinton keeping her mouth shut. Doesn’t even matter if she’s right. Picking a fight with gabbard was stupid. 
 

There’s a look that the neoconservative bogeyman will become to liberal bogeyman.  

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8 minutes ago, tshile said:

Picking a fight with gabbard was stupid. 

 

Hillary is a Russian plant.....it all makes sense now. 

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Kamala is making my projection look bad....get it together girl.

 

 

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The poll, taken Wednesday through Friday, put Biden at 18%, Warren at 17% and Buttigieg at 13% among 500 likely Democratic caucusgoers.

...Among the second tier of candidates, activist Tom Steyer was at 3%. Three other candidates also reached 3% because of rounding: Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, Harris and Klobuchar. 

Doesn't change the qualifying math for the November debates since no one who's out got 5%.

 

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Zuckerburg is letting untrue ads for Trump on FB. His offering advice to Pete leads me to totally disavow his candidacy. I thought Pete was smarter.

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51 minutes ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Buttigieg is a younger corporate shill than Biden, so it makes sense that corporate interests are following him. 

 

Not disputing your assertion.  (Although I've seen the "corporate shill" label used as a synonym for "doesn't think capitalism should be criminalized".)  But could you elaborate?  All I know about him is "I like the way he handles an interview."  

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1 hour ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

Buttigieg is a younger corporate shill than Biden, so it makes sense that corporate interests are following him. 

 

Empty words spoken with no evidence to back it up. 

 

Moderate does NOT equal "corporate shill."

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35 minutes ago, Chachie said:

I love the ever-mutating title of this thread. 🙂

Depends on my mood. Donny makes it easy.

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The Zuckerbeg article makes me a bit uneasy about Pete, but on the other hand I’d be glad to see that Zuckerberg may not be all in on Trump and the GOP.  Although supposedly his advice was a couple of years ago?  So who can say?

 

His ‘advice’ was to give references for some qualified former employees who wanted to join Pete’s staff.

 

I’m more annoyed with Pete’s recent decision to start attacking other candidates and flip on some of his positions.

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1 hour ago, Dan T. said:

 

Empty words spoken with no evidence to back it up. 

 

Moderate does NOT equal "corporate shill."

Whether or not you want to accept "corporate shill" as the proper framing (and I'm not quite going that far myself), the phrase doesn't come from just being a "moderate". It comes from stuff like this:

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-21/zuckerberg-offered-advice-in-hiring-to-buttigieg-in-rare-move

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pete-buttigieg-only-top-tier-2020-democrat-lobbyist-donations_n_5cbe09d6e4b0f7a84a73681d

 

https://readsludge.com/2019/10/18/as-he-attacks-medicare-for-all-mayor-pete-gets-campaign-cash-from-health-care-executives/

 

Not exactly "no evidence". 

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If the "moderate" right looks at Warren and thinks "socialist" the country is doomed already.  The right has hammered their nonsense messaging so hard that it seems like any reform to the current system at all is an "attack on freedom."

 

The lasting effects of Reaganomics and the like may very well be the most damaging idea to have entered the heads of so many Americans over the past 30 years.  The concept at it's core was a farce, but it's bred something even worse, the "FU, I got to get mine" mindset.  The worst part is the way it has successfully pit the middle class against the lower class, while the upper class laughs all the way to the bank........overseas. 

 

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28 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said:

Whether or not you want to accept "corporate shill" as the proper framing (and I'm not quite going that far myself), the phrase doesn't come from just being a "moderate". It comes from stuff like this:

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-10-21/zuckerberg-offered-advice-in-hiring-to-buttigieg-in-rare-move

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pete-buttigieg-only-top-tier-2020-democrat-lobbyist-donations_n_5cbe09d6e4b0f7a84a73681d

 

https://readsludge.com/2019/10/18/as-he-attacks-medicare-for-all-mayor-pete-gets-campaign-cash-from-health-care-executives/

 

Not exactly "no evidence". 

 

Just pointing out, you're responding to a poster who is arguing that he's not a corporate shill, he's a moderate, by pointing out that he supports giving people the option of Medicare, but doesn't mandate it (right away)."  

 

I would assert that not supporting the government simply declaring all private health care illegal, but instead giving people a government option, seems to me to be a position that's much more "moderate" than "corporate shill".  

6 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

Nobody even knows what socialism and capitalism mean anymore.

 

Not even Warren Buffett.  (Reference to one of my favorite Daily Shows).  

 

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