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      We’re still doing this?  Absolutely!  Despite all the compelling reasons to just let everyone go home and enjoy and extended offseason, this is not an option.  The games must be played, and therefore we the long-suffering fans will feel compelled to watch.  Even games no reasonable football fan would choose to watch like, for example, today’s Redskins Jets game.   

      Today’s convergence of sadness features the 30th ranked scoring offense (Jets 14.4 ppg) versus the 32nd (Redskins 12.0 ppg).  The first team to 15 wins!  With no playoff aspirations the compelling story lines for this game are largely limited to watching young players (hopefully) develop.  Dwayne Haskins gets his first home start and Derrius Guice is back from injury.   
       
      My, reasonable, goals for today’s game:  
      1- Score a touchdown 
      2- Score more than 17 points.   
      3- Haskins throws for 200 yards or more with no interceptions  
      4- Guice runs the ball at least 10 times and finishes at 3.5 yards per carry and healthy.  
       
      Hoping for a win at this point feels like setting myself up for disappointment, so I’m happy to settle for an entertaining loss.  
       
      Special thanks to @pez for some excellent Guinness beef stew.  If you absolutely have to stand in a frozen parking lot at 9am, the best place to do it is at the Extremeskins Tailgate with Pez and @Huly.  Great fans, great people. 
       
      The Redskins have declared for the following players as inactive: 
      Paul Richardson  
      Colt McCoy 
      Deshazor Everett 
      Chris Thompson  
      Ross Pierschbacher 
      Vernon Davis  
      Tim Settle  
       
      The Jets declared the following players as inactive  
      Nate Hairston  
      Darryl Roberts  
      Paul Worrilow 
      Matthias Farley  
      CJ Mosley  
      Jordan Willis  
      Leo Koloamatangi 
       
      1st Quarter - Redskins 0 - 6 Jets
      If you wanted to sit in the cold and watch a football game with some Jets fans at FedEx, but were worried that there were not enough seats available, I have good news.  There’s plenty of space available, so come on down and prove you’re a real fan by sitting though this in person.
       
      Jets dominated the 1st quarter even though they only scored 6 points.  The reason being that Washington managed only 13 yards of offense and a single first down.  
       
      Question: Is it still a check down pass if the QB never looks at anyone else?
       
      2nd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      The Jets have achieved an insurmountable 13 point lead early in the 2nd quarter.  All hope is lost.

      Is there a more perfect example of the Redskins offense than their first scoring drive in the 2nd quarter?  Interception gives the Redskins the ball on the Jets 16 yard line.  They proceed to march 10 yards backwards before kicking a field goal from the Jets 26.  It's perfect.  Two or three more field goals we can call it a day. 

      The Jets score again and if feels like they are are just piling on at this point.  Three touchdowns in the first half for them, just three points for the redskins.  Our streak of no touchdowns has now extended to 15 quarters. 
       
      3rd Quarter - Redskins 3 - 20 Jets
      There is a spider slowly descending from the ceiling in the press box and it's the most interesting thing that's happened during the third quarter of this game. 
       
      I have decided to allow the spider to live, provided it does not touch me.  I'm off to get some more caffeine. 

      4th Quarter - Redskins 17 - 34 Jets
      The first wave of Redskins fans, the few that are here, started streaming towards the exits after that 4th Jets touchdown.  As if the Jets didn't have this game wrapped up in the 2nd quarter. 
       
      Jet have now more than doubled their average points per game and have matched their season high of 34 points (and they missed two field goals in this game). 
       
      TOUCHDOWN REDSKINS!  THE DROUGHT IT OVER!  Guice took a short pass from Haskins  all the way to the house.  2 point conversion is successful on a pass from Haskins to Quinn. 
       
      The Redskins score another touchdown!  This feels like an embarrassment of riches, even if we are still certain to lose this game. 
       
      End of Game.
       
      Let's review those reasonable goals I mentioned earlier:
       
      1- Success.
      2- Close enough, I'm counting it
      3- Haskins did throw for over 200, but unfortunately did have an interception. 
      4- Guice was not given the opportunity to run the ball ten times today.  He did however score on a 45 yard TD pass and finish the game healthy.  I'll take it.
       
      Even though the Redskins lost, it was good to see the offense show some faint signs of life and end the streak of games without a TD.  The team looked competitive for much of the second half, and perhaps they could have made this a fun game if they carried that same energy throughout.  It was good to see Guice and Mclaurin show out today.  I think both of them have a future with this team that I look forward to seeing. 

       
       

       
       
       
       
       
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Presidential Election :11/3/2020- Trump the Impeached vs Superplanner Lizzie & some other Dems

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@PeterMP

I understand where you’re coming from and I get you won’t be voting for trump. But, we’re going to have to disagree on the status quo. Are you not considering the escalation of all this behavior and the overt nature that comes with it? The level of dysfunction and corruption I see, the crippling of our departments and agencies, is much worse than past administrations from what I can remember. 

 

This is a major step back for our country, not a status quo, lateral type move. It’s strange to me that you chose to characterize it in that way. 

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23 minutes ago, Fresh8686 said:

 

 

This is a major step back for our country, not a status quo, lateral type move. It’s strange to me that you chose to characterize it in that way. 

 

Getting used to it doesnt make it normal.

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8 hours ago, PleaseBlitz said:

 

This is a ****ing awesome post.  

Awesomely bad. Good god look how many regular posters actually "liked" it.  You all should be embarrassed. This forum gets loonier by the day.

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43 minutes ago, nonniey said:

Awesomely bad. Good god look how many regular posters actually "liked" it.  You all should be embarrassed. This forum gets loonier by the day.

We have a president who was recorded saying that he likes to grab women by the **** and just suffered through a week where that president told duly elected Congressional representatives to go back to their country (I'll assume the idiot in chief didn't know three of the four are born US citizens) and to add insult to injury, the leaders of one of the two major parties defended the tweet as not being racist (I guess you could argue that it's closer to being xenophobic, though I don't see Trump telling anyone with who looks like him to go back to their country.  And wtf Mitch?  You choose party loyalty over your own wife?).  

 

And on top that 55% of GOP supporters agree with Trump's tweet and 33% strongly agree, with the oft cited reason saying that it wasn't about race, but merely saying if you don't like America, then leave (boy, how I wish you morons took that advice during the Obama years.  But please keep that nugget of wisdom in mind when the next liberal president gets in office.).  I'm not even going to go into nearly half of a state voting for Roy Moore.

 

So, whether you agree or disagree with @Fresh8686, you really can't appreciate where him and his wife are coming from?  Seriously?

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1 hour ago, nonniey said:

Awesomely bad. Good god look how many regular posters actually "liked" it.  You all should be embarrassed. This forum gets loonier by the day.

 

Personally I find your posts humorous. Please do go on.

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The lack of empathy is the downfall of humanity.

 

A man pours his soul into a post with personal stories of the daily affect this administration has caused and yet there are people that despite having multiple children under their care, laughs at their reality caused by a racist organization. These people can not relate to the stresses of the real world because they have never experienced it. They are foreign to it and anything outside of the spoonfed life they are given, built upon the sacrifices of our forefathers, immigrants, and the oppressed.

 

Ignorance is not innocence.

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3 minutes ago, Skin'emAlive said:

The lack of empathy is the downfall of humanity.

 

A man pours his soul into a post with personal stories of the daily affect this administration has caused and yet there are people that despite having multiple children under their care, laughs at their reality caused by a racist organization. These people can not relate to the stresses of the real world because they have never experienced it. They are foreign to it and anything outside of the spoonfed life they are given, built upon the sacrifices of our forefathers, immigrants, and the oppressed.

 

Ignorance is not innocence.

As bad, stupid and hateful as the things the President says are, what Fresh posted was worse and orders of magnitude worse.

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8 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

You're not the only one who says this.  And I'm on record as saying I believe there will be much blood spilled before we get better.  And I'd most likely be on your side.  But the scary thing is "those people" are the ones that have more guns and are far better at using them.  Go to any gun range or hunting supplies store or gun show and count the number of trump bumper stickers. 

 

A gap in paramilitary effectiveness and organization can be made up because, let's be honest, there aren't any highly organized or effective paramilitaries of note in the country.  There is enough prosperity out there for our ex-military that they haven't banded up in sufficient numbers to politically destabilize our country like has happened to other nations in the past.  Our military is also so advanced and highly specialized that the number of experts in the kinds of combat that would make up the fighting in a modern civil war would likely be a small percentage of current and former military personnel.

 

The profound difference is in funding.  Right wing militants would have so much more money, and they would get a mountain of money and material from Russia.  Not to mention a right wing extremist political movement currently controls the government and our actual military.

 

There also isn't the same appetite for war and militancy on the left as the right.  Leftists are largely committed to contesting politics through the electoral process.  They are also not as uniformly radicalized, organized into broad self identifying groups, nor are they as regularly subjected to propaganda designed to boost morale and commitment to extremist ideology.

 

Turn on a radio in Georgia and you will be overwhelmed by stations broadcasting arch conservative Christian fascism and propaganda.  Their ideology is casually ubiquitous in the South.  That is what the Left is up against, and mainstream liberals don't even realize they're in an honest to God war of ideology.

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8 hours ago, nonniey said:

Awesomely bad. Good god look how many regular posters actually "liked" it.  You all should be embarrassed. This forum gets loonier by the day.

You write many wonderfully out of this world posts.

 

You live on a different planet than the rest of us.

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7 hours ago, nonniey said:

As bad, stupid and hateful as the things the President says are, what Fresh posted was worse and orders of magnitude worse.

To be fair, others like PeterMP and tshile responded gracefully and in a non-snarky manner to Fresh's post. Your comment just seems like a drive-by that adds nothing to the conversation. At least elaborate on why your feel the way you do. I understand your frustration, but always try to do better. 

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10 hours ago, Fresh8686 said:

@PeterMP

I understand where you’re coming from and I get you won’t be voting for trump. But, we’re going to have to disagree on the status quo. Are you not considering the escalation of all this behavior and the overt nature that comes with it? The level of dysfunction and corruption I see, the crippling of our departments and agencies, is much worse than past administrations from what I can remember. 

 

This is a major step back for our country, not a status quo, lateral type move. It’s strange to me that you chose to characterize it in that way. 

 

Okay, if you go back to my original post, I specifically talked about the environmental regulations being a drastic change.  The EPA and related agencies are being gutted.  I also said pointed out the courts as an exception, where a lot of the other things about regulations are being changed.

 

I also specifically said ignoring what he says and he tweets.  Most of the escalation of the behavior is coming from things that he says and tweets.

 

My post was specific to actual polices.  You even bolded the statement where I said specifically looking at policies.

 

I specifically said if you look at X (and ignore Y and Z) this is true and what you are telling me is that I am wrong because what I said is true (for X) is not true for Y and Z.

 

I wrote that post very purposely because I knew what was going to happen.

 

Trump has drastically altered the way a President behaves.  But what I would tell you is the way that he talks is not a drastic change from the status quo from the way his supporters talk (among themselves) and think.

 

For people that already talk and think like that, they are more comfortable with having a President that talks and thinks like that (and probably actually like it), then far left changes in actual policies.

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9 hours ago, nonniey said:

Awesomely bad. Good god look how many regular posters actually "liked" it.  You all should be embarrassed. This forum gets loonier by the day.

 

Maybe you want to explain why think it is bad?

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10 hours ago, nonniey said:

Awesomely bad. Good god look how many regular posters actually "liked" it.  You all should be embarrassed. This forum gets loonier by the day.

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9 hours ago, nonniey said:

As bad, stupid and hateful as the things the President says are, what Fresh posted was worse and orders of magnitude worse.

When you have a president who exercised the powers of his office to commit mass detention of migrant children to an extent where scholars debate whether the conditions meet the definition of torture and concentration camp while merrily touting what his administration is doing, you're gonna have to defend your post.

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2 hours ago, BenningRoadSkin said:

You write many wonderfully out of this world posts.

 

You live on a different planet than the rest of us.

 

He is deeply in denial about what the GoP is, what they represent, and what they are doing.

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I think all the people who want to destroy each other should just agree to meet up somewhere and get on with it. I’d just as soon get it out of the way so I can focus on enjoying the preseason.

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2 minutes ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said:

I think all the people who want to destroy each other should just agree to meet up somewhere and get on with it. I’d just as soon get it out of the way so I can focus on enjoying the preseason.

 

.... before the regular season starts, and we get back to depression again. 🙂

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6 minutes ago, Larry said:

 

.... before the regular season starts, and we get back to depression again. 🙂

It’s true. I really have no reason to wake up in the mornings.

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16 hours ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

 

Yup.  I know.  We've heard it.  I just want you to take comfort in the fact that you are still as wrong now as you were then.  

Not even remotely wrong. You could have helped prevent Trump, you stood by and let it happen.

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Just now, AsburySkinsFan said:

Not even remotely wrong. You could have helped prevent Trump, you stood by and let it happen.

Are we really going to have this debate again?

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10 hours ago, stevemcqueen1 said:

Turn on a radio in Georgia and you will be overwhelmed by stations broadcasting arch conservative Christian fascism and propaganda.  Their ideology is casually ubiquitous in the South.  That is what the Left is up against, and mainstream liberals don't even realize they're in an honest to God war of ideology.

 

I think there are ideologues on the left.

 

And I'd warn against over estimating the number of ideologues on the right.  Two things have happened with respect to the ideology on the right:

 

1.  It has been commercialized and monetized.  This draws people to it that aren't actually ideologues and certainly don't want a real fight for over it.

 

2.  People are attracted to it based on fear, but don't actually believe it either (they aren't really ideologues).  They are people that are scared how the world is changing and are afraid of losing their place in the social fabric.

 

(This did happen during the Civil War too.  Poor white southerners that don't really support slavery or even state's rights end up supporting and fighting the south because of fear of losing their position in society.)

 

Pulling those two groups away from the extreme right wing ideology is important (and will really decrease the risk of their being more significant fighting.))

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11 hours ago, bearrock said:

So, whether you agree or disagree with @Fresh8686, you really can't appreciate where him and his wife are coming from?  Seriously?

 

No, because he is a GOP hack and knows it so he denies the reality of what he supports. 

 

Because omg “the LoOnEy LeFt!!!!” and their diabolical plan to provide people with quality healthcare and equal rights  

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)
35 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said:

Are we really going to have this debate again?

It's like anytime I've ever had to help counsel someone when they couldn't accept difficult truths. They will resist, but if as a counselor you buy into their delusion then you've compounded the issue.

I'd suggest watching, Shutter Island with Leo Decaprio. Eventually you have to come to terms with reality or you'll keep destroying those around you in order to maintain the fiction you've created to insulate your psyche.

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1 minute ago, AsburySkinsFan said:

It's like anytime I've ever had to help counsel someone when they couldn't accept difficult truths. They will resist, but if as a counselor you buy into their delusion then you've compounded the issue.

I'd suggest watching, Shutter Island with Leo Decaprio. Eventually you have to come to terms with reality or you'll keep destroying those around you in order to maintain the fiction you've created to insulate your psyche.

You act like I'm trying to argue that pizzagate is true.  There has been many a discussion here about the level of blame people that didn't vote for Hillary share.  And opinions have been pretty evenly spread across the spectrum.  You are free to have your opinion.  I'm done wasting my time debating it.

 

Agree to disagree. 

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