visionary Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 https://twitter.com/ericbradner/status/1226310899583062016?s=21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 hours ago, visionary said: Chris Matthews is left wing? Lmao. Not my description I just posted from VOX and Dailywire. But I think the point was two notable Democrats were expressing deep concerns over the Democratic candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, nonniey said: Not my description I just posted from VOX and Dailywire. But I think the point was two notable Democrats were expressing deep concerns over the Democratic candidates. Don’t worry Hillary will come to the rescue at the convention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Wow. Great read! https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-2020-disinformation-war/605530/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 40 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: Don’t worry Hillary will come to the rescue at the convention. Ok gotta admit Matthews and/or Carville may be in the same position I was in on the other side in 2016 (will they become the "never Sanders"?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Springfield Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 There’s lots of accusatory of left wing and right wing. Let us remember that they’re all pretty much all centrists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LadySkinsFan Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Andrew Yang is firing staff members after Iowa caucases. https://news.yahoo.com/andrew-yang-fires-dozens-campaign-054257702.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: Andrew Yang is firing staff members after Iowa caucases. Saw that last night. Guessing his campaign is over. I really like the guy. Hope he gets a cabinet position in a new democratic administration. 51 minutes ago, Springfield said: There’s lots of accusatory of left wing and right wing. Let us remember that they’re all pretty much all centrists. The right hasn't been anywhere near centrist in decades tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, clietas said: The right hasn't been anywhere near centrist in decades tho. drunk tho **** Reagan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Pete seems to have dropped 3 points in this poll, since yesterday? (although people were saying it was unreliable yesterday anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dan T. Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, illone said: Wow. Great read! https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-2020-disinformation-war/605530/ Disgusting. Imagine a campaign to obliterate truth, and to demonize an honest press. And to be FOR that side. Amoral, lying, shameless bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Watching Bernie on CNN right now. Tapper brings up a wealth cap position Bernie had like 40 years ago and Bernie gives him a hard time for digging up something from so long ago. So Tapper, three times, gives him an opportunity to say his position has changed since then. And Bernie wouldn’t stay if he still believed that or not but instead just repeated his normal talking lines. That is a big problem I have with Bernie and what would probably keep me from voting for him if he is the nominee. He doesn’t seem like he is willing to answer difficult questions and when they are put to him, he deflects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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grego Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 13 hours ago, clietas said: The right hasn't been anywhere near centrist in decades tho. i'm not sure about that. what do you make of this? and this- https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/01/opinions/when-did-barack-obama-become-a-republican-avlon/index.html When did Barack Obama become a Republican? By John Avlon i can tell you in my own experience, my views have moved considerably left from where i was just a few years ago. and i'm confident obama circa 2008 couldn't make it to the current 2020 candidate debate stage. (my current views would put me left of 2008 obama on most issues). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 What the graph doesn’t tell you is that the DNC is still extremely inclusive of centrists/moderates, while the GOP is in a continual effort to ostracize the party of any centrism. And that is an obvious fact that anyone can easily acknowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 hours ago, visionary said: Ha. There isn't going to be unity. While some Sanders voters will vote for whoever the nominee is; there will be a significant portion of Sanders voters who will not. They will either stay home, not vote for President, vote 3rd party and some really pissed off Sanders voters may even vote Trump again. What would piss off Sanders voters. Probably anything actually. I think what would send them over the edge would be Sanders have a delegate lead going into the convention. No candidate has enough to secure the nomination but Sanders goes in with the lead. Then Sanders is denied the nomination. That will send them over the edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mooka Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: Ha. There isn't going to be unity. While some Sanders voters will vote for whoever the nominee is; there will be a significant portion of Sanders voters who will not. They will either stay home, not vote for President, vote 3rd party and some really pissed off Sanders voters may even vote Trump again. Overblown. If they are Democrats, they'll vote for the nominee like all Democrats. If they are Ind or Reb then they'll vote like Indys and Repubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 It's the final couple of days for?? Yang? Gabbard? - Actually, she's been silent for the longest time; she still alive? Definitely, Patrick & Bennett. Unless she finiishes ahead of Biden, it's probably it for Klobuchar also. What I would love to see: Buttigieg - 1st Sanders - 2nd Klobuchar- 3rd Warren - 4th Write-in: Bloomberg- 5th Biden- 6th. NH has write in, so people could write Bloomberg in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: What would piss off Sanders voters. Probably anything actually. I think what would send them over the edge would be Sanders have a delegate lead going into the convention. No candidate has enough to secure the nomination but Sanders goes in with the lead. Then Sanders is denied the nomination. That will send them over the edge. Sanders winning iowa but not by as much as they want seems to be enough for some of them to start the conspiracy machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rdskns2000 said: What I would love to see: I would think the odds of Bernie not winning NH are about zero. All I'm wondering about is how much he wins by, and how low Biden is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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