Springfield Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 126,000,000 people exposed to propaganda. People need to be in prison for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 The Dems should be smashing the GOP to pieces right now. GROW A SET YOU DUKAKIS KISSING SISSIES!!! 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 This is ironically the same thing Stormy said to Trump. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGreatBuzz Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, visionary said: This is ironically the same thing Stormy said to Trump. Hahahaha I will say I am starting to agree with Pence on that one statement. Now I hope the investigation ends with a bunch of people, including POTUS and probably VP, in jail. But I feel after ~16 months you need to either be able to make your case or admit it isn't strong enough. This may just be my frustration in it taking so long to get rid of such an idiot though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Springfield said: 126,000,000 people exposed to propaganda. People need to be in prison for this. Jail Zuckerburg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busch1724 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Hahahaha I will say I am starting to agree with Pence on that one statement. Now I hope the investigation ends with a bunch of people, including POTUS and probably VP, in jail. But I feel after ~16 months you need to either be able to make your case or admit it isn't strong enough. This may just be my frustration in it taking so long to get rid of such an idiot though. Well the thing is there's plenty happening. Benghazi went like what, 4 years? Clinton email scandal, 2 years. Neither one had indictments. This one already has something like 23. It's going to take quite a while to peel back all the layers of this thing. The problem with this investigation is that there's lots of progress, but more that still seems to come out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Busch1724 said: Well the thing is there's plenty happening. Benghazi went like what, 4 years? Clinton email scandal, 2 years. Neither one had indictments. This one already has something like 23. It's going to take quite a while to peel back all the layers of this thing. The problem with this investigation is that there's lots of progress, but more that still seems to come out. The GOP investigations were just actual witch hunts so yea, they were way too long and wasteful. And I don't care about the lower level indictments. Flynn and Manafort were good but I'm ready for the big fish. I guess I have issue that someone can do things that we all believe the Trump campaign did and still get to sit in that seat for this long. I feel like if someone needs to get thrown out of that chair, you should be able to prove it in 16 months. I say the same about the poor people that sit in jail for years waiting on their murder trial. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 31 minutes ago, twa said: Jail Zuckerburg Its quite true that he has little to no care about his company’s role in the spreading of misinformation and propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Jail Hannity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: The Dems should be smashing the GOP to pieces right now. GROW A SET YOU DUKAKIS KISSING SISSIES!!! But we have to be the example and not fall to thier level!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Hahahaha I will say I am starting to agree with Pence on that one statement. Now I hope the investigation ends with a bunch of people, including POTUS and probably VP, in jail. But I feel after ~16 months you need to either be able to make your case or admit it isn't strong enough. This may just be my frustration in it taking so long to get rid of such an idiot though. It has not been one year yet. Mueller was appointed on May 17, 2017. It's been 358 days. These things take time. Here is a helpful reference chart. Note the average is 904 days. We're at about 40% of the average. Now look at what some of the investigations were about (like a leak, or a conflict of interest) and think about how this one is about whether the sitting President conspired with a foreign enemy to swing his election. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Whitewater was almost 3000 days?!? Madness, I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said: The GOP investigations were just actual witch hunts so yea, they were way too long and wasteful. And I don't care about the lower level indictments. Flynn and Manafort were good but I'm ready for the big fish. I guess I have issue that someone can do things that we all believe the Trump campaign did and still get to sit in that seat for this long. I feel like if someone needs to get thrown out of that chair, you should be able to prove it in 16 months. I say the same about the poor people that sit in jail for years waiting on their murder trial. It took the investigation into Nixon and his minions two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 22 minutes ago, PleaseBlitz said: It has not been one year yet. Mueller was appointed on May 17, 2017. It's been 358 days. Wasn't Obama at least mildly aware that Russia was playing games with the election? And wasn't Comey looking into it before he got canned? I'd say it has been over a year. Again, my issue is more that a person can do what we all believe he did, yet still sit in that seat for this long. If that is the way it is, than it needs to be fixed. I don't know how but I don't think my POTUS should be under the thumb of an enemy state and it take us this long to rectify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Rule of law takes time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Just now, LadySkinsFan said: It took the investigation into Nixon and his minions two years. Why do people keep bringing up history like it is an argument to my thought? I'm not saying it isn't okay for it to take this long for some political reason. I'm saying if he is beholden to russia, hurry up and get his ass out of there. If I admit Watergate, Monica, Bengahzi, etc should have moved faster, will you all get off that stump? Just now, LadySkinsFan said: Rule of law takes time. So you are cool with the GOP being able to hold office for this long after all they have done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 They voted out of committee the Articles of Impeachment after the investigation was concluded and the hearings on the House concluded, so there's some overlap of time. Plus it took a bit for the selected Republicans to meet with and convince Nixon to resign. I watched the hearings on my portable B&W TV at my job as a parking lot cashier at National Airport. Fascinating stuff! I don't think that the Republicans in the House will hold impeachment hearings. In fact, they have concluded their investigation and that's it as far as they are concerned. So what's the remedy considering your timeline? Mueller has to keep the investigation going until after the midterms and hope like hell that Dems take the House majority. Then Dems need to conduct investigation hearings leading to impeachment committee and vote articles of impeachment. Then hope that House Republicans will try to convince Trump to resign. Does that about cover it for you timeline wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, LadySkinsFan said: Does that about cover it for you timeline wise? I get how the current system works. I also get how it has worked in the past. However, I think two things: One, if a POTUS colluded with an enemy government so he could get the seat, there needs to be a much better, quicker, more efficient, and just way to remove him. Two, if Trump & Co did all these things we are led to believe (and I do believe) than it should not take more than 16 months to put all that together and complete the process to get him out. This is no way meant to be a defense of Trump, an argument that since it has been finished in this amount of time that he must be innocent, or that previous investigations into some other political figure are a beacon that would should strive for. Sad that I need to clear that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) If you are going to remove a sitting president from office, or even claim that he committed treason, you need your **** to be indisputable beyond a Shadow of a doubt before you come forward. Plus, it seems like every stone turned over leads to another crime and/or people that need to be further investigated to truly complete the scope of what happened Edited May 11, 2018 by Momma There Goes That Man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I get that. Maybe it is just my frustration that he isn't gone yet coming out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momma There Goes That Man Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 12 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I get that. Maybe it is just my frustration that he isn't gone yet coming out. I’m with you on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: I get that. Maybe it is just my frustration that he isn't gone yet coming out. A bunch of us feel that way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said: So you are cool with the GOP being able to hold office for this long after all they have done? They're going to hold office, until the voters vote them out. They won the election. The investigation might determine which Republican holds office. but they're not going to impeach the Party, and let the DNC appoint somebody. Edited May 11, 2018 by Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 hour ago, TheGreatBuzz said: One, if a POTUS colluded with an enemy government so he could get the seat, there needs to be a much better, quicker, more efficient, and just way to remove him. There is one. Impeachment. In theory, it could be dome in a matter of days. Only thing is, Congress views Party and power above country. That have made a conscious decision, unanimously, to use their constitutionally-granted power as a tool to actively obstruct justice, rather than to carry it out. Problem isn't that there's no mechanism. Problem is the people who have the power. 1 hour ago, Momma There Goes That Man said: Plus, it seems like every stone turned over leads to another crime and/or people that need to be further investigated to truly complete the scope of what happened Well, that, and he keeps confessing to another crime, and committing the same ones over, every few days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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