AsburySkinsFan Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 I thought this was interesting. If true then Trump defenders and water mudders can suck it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 8 minutes ago, LD0506 said: Duh, we didn’t know that Mueller had ALL of our emails...derp Trump Administration 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Latest rumor is that Trump is planning to give himself a Xmas present and fire Mueller on Friday Will Congress be complicit? Will they let this pass too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Watching Fox News Sunday is always interesting. They're saying there's no such plan & that Trump should just let it play out because Mueller will eventually vindicate him(?). They must be high. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 My take from that was two-fold, they didn't know that Mueller had already gotten access to the emails, ie. either they knew and no one mentioned it or they actually are as criminally incompetent as we thought, and Mueller's team had a firm basis for asking particular questions that would lead them into the quicksand and more charges for lying, perjury, obstruction, etc. are in the offing. It's laughable, when you look at the legal assassins Bob has on his team and compare them to the third rate hucksters that the * has defending him, it's no contest about who understands the legal ramifications better. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Seriously. They don't realize that absolutely everyone is under surveillance at all times? I'm smarter than the tangerine & his friends. Shocker. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 16 minutes ago, AsburySkinsFan said: So once again, we see just how damaged they are, they cannot even grasp spelling fer crissakes. The G in GSA ****tards, what does the G mean? Their services, their devices, it is all government monitored and archived. That's what they do. Showing someone a letter from a dead guy and claiming it covers all your lameass excuses isn't gonna cut it. If SNL writers even suggested half of this idiocy for a skit they get laughed out of the room, it is just beyond comprehension how any of these so-called lawyers have not starved to death long ago. I flushed more basic common sense this morning than any of them display. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, AsburySkinsFan said: Oddly enough the GSA thought differently at first according to the buzzfeed story and thought a subpoena or warrant needed . wonder where they got that impression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveakl Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 6 minutes ago, twa said: Oddly enough the GSA thought differently at first according to the buzzfeed story and thought a subpoena or warrant needed . wonder where they got that impression? Sort of. From the article: "Langhofer also said that a GSA official appointed by Trump in May had assured the transition in June that any request for records from Mueller's office would be referred to the transition's attorneys" What that sounds like is a new person that just joined the GSA said something to Trumps team that turned out not to be true. I don't see anything in the article that says the GSA thought a subpoena or warrant was needed though. Can you quote that text? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 If there was anything illegal about obtaining these emails, the course of action by Team Trump wouldn’t be a whiny letter to Congress. They can this to court but they won’t. Because the emails weren’t improperly obtained. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, daveakl said: Sort of. From the article: "Langhofer also said that a GSA official appointed by Trump in May had assured the transition in June that any request for records from Mueller's office would be referred to the transition's attorneys" What that sounds like is a new person that just joined the GSA said something to Trumps team that turned out not to be true. I don't see anything in the article that says the GSA thought a subpoena or warrant was needed though. Can you quote that text? Quote Loewentritt told BuzzFeed News that the GSA initially "suggested a warrant or subpoena" for the materials, but that the Special Counsel's Office determined the letter route was sufficient. As to whether the Trump campaign should have been informed of the request, Loewentritt said, "That's between the Special Counsel and the transition team." is the Special Counsels determination correct?....or just avoids a judge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Excuses Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) Resident law expert twa explaining why government investigators can’t obtain .gov emails is ES Tailgate at its finest. Edited December 17, 2017 by No Excuses 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, No Excuses said: If there was anything illegal about obtaining these emails, the course of action by Team Trump wouldn’t be a whiny letter to Congress. They can this to court but they won’t. Because the emails weren’t improperly obtained. Interesting distinction ,you shift from illegal to improper. I'd guess it was improper, and the GSA's initial reaction supports that assumption. Just now, No Excuses said: Resident law expert twa explaining why government investigators can’t obtain .gov emails is ES Tailgate at its finest. Oh there certainly exist a number of ways to properly attain them.....odd you want to change it to I said they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, twa said: I'd guess it was improper, and the GSA's initial reaction supports that assumption. Improper . Those meany criminal investigators. You collude with one little Russia and they get all improper on you. Guess what everybody, these guys aren't ****ing around. Blaming Hillary & Obama or screaming about emails ain't gonna cut it. Edited December 17, 2017 by Sacks 'n' Stuff 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, Sacks 'n' Stuff said: Improper . Those meany criminal investigators. You collude with one little Russia and they get all improper on you. Guess what everybody, these guys aren't ****ing around. Blaming Hillary & Obama or screaming about emails ain't gonna cut it. the line between improper and illegal gets fuzzy, like with a forbidden server, deleting emails and unapproved devices and improper retention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, visionary said: Translation: “We know how to do our effing jobs, and we’re effing good at it.” It should also be noted that they used the term “criminal process.” 4 minutes ago, twa said: the line between improper and illegal gets fuzzy No, it’s not. Saying so doesn’t make it so. Only shilling GOPers want to believe that everyone else is as corrupt as the troll THEY put into office! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 5 minutes ago, twa said: the line between improper and illegal gets fuzzy, like with a forbidden server, deleting emails and unapproved devices and improper retention. Yup. Ain't gonna be no fuzzies on which side of the line Trump and his brood land on at the end of this thing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Just now, AsburySkinsFan said: Translation: “We know how to do our effing jobs, and we’re effing good at it.” It should also be noted that they used the term “criminal process.” or account holders consent.....who is the account holder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, twa said: or account holders consent.....who is the account holder? Did you READ the whole thing or are you just going to quote half of what the Mueller i vestigators are saying? Trump team: “Mueller team acted improperly in acquiring emails.” Translation: “We don’t know how the govefnment works, and weren’t aware that there was more than one way to skin cat.” This is a good tweet chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Yes I read it and skinning a cat can be legal or not,and sometimes just improper. who is the account holder....the GSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Flynn and Papadopoulis were account holders. They've also flipped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 1 minute ago, DogofWar1 said: Flynn and Papadopoulis were account holders. They've also flipped. so you are saying they flipped before Mueller;s team got the emails and they are limited to just those two email chains? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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