Moose & Squirrel v Boris & Natasha: what's the deal with the rooskies and trumpland?

[SoulSkin]

 

Transcript: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/29/mark-warner-the-full-transcript-216543

Edited January 29, 2018 by SoulSkin

[visionary]

 

 

 

Edited January 29, 2018 by visionary

[PeterMP]

12 hours ago, twa said:

Odd that they would bring in legal scholars then isn't it.

it is their duty to try and Amar and Duffy obviously disagree...odd you don't mention the dissent.

 

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/special-counsels-and-the-separation-of-powers

 

It makes sense in drafting legislation for Congress to worry about what is Constitutional.  If there are two ways to get something achieve a goal and one way is more likely to be Constitutional than the other, then it completely makes sense for Congress to use the most Constitutional approach.

 

However, at the end of the day, that's not Congress' concern.  If the majority of the members of Congress are worried about Trump firing Mueller, Congress should pass the most likely Constitutional way to do it, and then let the courts determine if it is actually Constitutional or not.  To let something you think is a negative happen because the law preventing it might be unconstitutional doesn't make any sense as that's no Congress' role in our government.

[FanboyOf91]

One step closer to unchecked executive rule crippling the Dems going into 2020.

[LD0506]

Running to oust Nunes......

https://www.andrewjanzforcongress.com/

 

 

Here's the thing, people talk about Mueller, firing Mueller, taste testers, etc., but Mueller is shorthand for the investigative team, and by and large Robert Mueller is the nicest guy there. He has some insane legal assassins under him that would (figuratively) stomp a hole in Trump and **** in it.

 

[RedskinsFan44]

Fox News is spinning this as more than a "resignation":

 

[@DCGoldPants]

 

Never seen somebody take credit for more stuff he had little to do with, and pass the buck on things he was involved in as much as this guy.

[twa]

1 hour ago, PeterMP said:

 

It makes sense in drafting legislation for Congress to worry about what is Constitutional.  If there are two ways to get something achieve a goal and one way is more likely to be Constitutional than the other, then it completely makes sense for Congress to use the most Constitutional approach.

 

However, at the end of the day, that's not Congress' concern.  If the majority of the members of Congress are worried about Trump firing Mueller, Congress should pass the most likely Constitutional way to do it, and then let the courts determine if it is actually Constitutional or not.  To let something you think is a negative happen because the law preventing it might be unconstitutional doesn't make any sense as that's no Congress' role in our government.

 

Congress's duty is to not infringe on Executive powers if doing so is unconstitutional.

A Mueller firing can be blocked by the court IF they see fit after the fact.

A Mueller firing can be used to remove Trump if congress desires

 

Or Congress can pass whatever they feel like....if they have the votes.

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[Llevron]

Its crazy how the republicans turned on the FBI like this. I have to assume many of them are covering their own asses. There is nothing about Trump, outside of money, that can endear him to people. Literally nothing. 

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[Burgold]

McCabe's ouster/resignation makes me a little sad. A shame that we ruined a presumably good man's reputation or that he could no longer weather the storm of GOP insults and corruption.

 

I really don't know that much about him. These people are largely invisible, but they have done important work for decades. Like Sally Yates, I feel like we are losing a good one and America will be less for it. I have little faith that the man or woman he is replaced with will be of equal mettle. 

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Kelly held separate meetings or phone calls with senior Justice Department officials last Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday to convey Trump’s displeasure and lecture them on the White House’s expectations, according to the people. Kelly has taken to ending such conversations with a disclaimer that the White House isn’t expecting officials to do anything illegal or unethical.

 

After Trump’s strong reaction on Air Force One over the Boyd letter, White House officials, including Kelly, sprang into action again, lashing Justice Department officials Thursday over the decision to send the letter, according to the people. Sarah Isgur Flores, director of public affairs at the Department of Justice, declined to comment.

 

Dictatorial scum.

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[LadySkinsFan]

The Department of Justice is the law enforcement agency for the United States, not the Executive branch. 

 

People need to keep telling Trump that until he gets it.

[visionary]

Obstruction is still ongoing....

 

 

 

 

 

[mistertim]

1 hour ago, visionary said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dictatorial scum.

 

I have absolutely lost all respect I used to have for John Kelly. He has shown he's now just another Trump stooge and lackey, despite trying to make it seem like he isn't. Calling the ****ing DOJ to lecture them on the White House's expectations? And then being a total sleazeball and saying " but of course I'm not asking you to do anything illegal".

 

**** him and **** all of them.

[BRAVEONAWARPATH]

 

[mistertim]

He's lucky McCabe didn't punch him right in the face. What a childish, mean spirited, awful human being.

[skinsmarydu]

3 hours ago, RedskinsFan44 said:

Fox News is spinning this as more than a "resignation":

 

You should see RT. Ed Schultz is having a field day. 

And to think....I really liked him once upon a time. 

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Wray said in the message he could not comment on the coming inspector general report about the FBI's conduct during the 2016 election and defended himself as not being swayed by politics.

A source familiar with the matter told CNN that Wray had informed McCabe he is bringing in his own team, which McCabe would not be a part of, and that it was McCabe's decision whether to stay at the FBI or leave.

Earlier Monday, The New York Times reported that McCabe's sudden decision to step down came after he told friends he felt pressure to do so from Wray.

The Times, citing one official close to McCabe, said the deputy director's decision to leave before his anticipated retirement in March came after Wray discussed the looming inspector general report and suggested demoting McCabe from the number two post at the bureau.

 

Rather than accept the demotion, the source told the Times, McCabe informed colleagues he would leave the bureau Monday.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Dan T.]

36 minutes ago, BRAVEONAWARPATH said:

 

 

Surprise.  Donald Trump is a petty, vindictive asshole.

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