crabbypatty Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, mistertim said: How likely do you guys see it that Reuben Foster falls to 17? From most mocks it seems very unlikely....but if it happened would you immediately pull the trigger or would it depend on which DT/DE guys are still on the board? I like foster, but the way he hits is concerning. many of his big shots were really high and would be a penalty every time in the nfl.. hopefully he can adjust his strike zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 31 minutes ago, mistertim said: How likely do you guys see it that Reuben Foster falls to 17? From most mocks it seems very unlikely....but if it happened would you immediately pull the trigger or would it depend on which DT/DE guys are still on the board? I think he'll be on the board at 17. Smallish stack linebackers who aren't big time playmakers don't usually go in the first half of the first round. Foster doesn't have the coverage skills that CJ Mosley and Luke Kuechly had. I'm not sure he would be BPA for me at 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, crabbypatty said: I like foster, but the way he hits is concerning. many of his big shots were really high and would be a penalty every time in the nfl.. hopefully he can adjust his strike zone. When will he do that? I don't want to sound like Mr. Grumpy but with these limited hitting in practise...it's pretty dam hard to teach hitting stuff or get rid of bad habits. (Kinda annoing rule if you ask me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, mistertim said: How likely do you guys see it that Reuben Foster falls to 17? From most mocks it seems very unlikely....but if it happened would you immediately pull the trigger or would it depend on which DT/DE guys are still on the board? Immediately. I'd even be willing to move up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, stevemcqueen1 said: I think he'll be on the board at 17. Smallish stack linebackers who aren't big time playmakers don't usually go in the first half of the first round. Foster doesn't have the coverage skills that CJ Mosley and Luke Kuechly had. I'm not sure he would be BPA for me at 17. Not saying you are wrong but if Foster is still there at #17, current mocks are wildly off on him. Though to your point, his old MLB teammate, Ragland I recall was popular in the 15-22 or so range in mocks last year but he ultimately fell to the 2nd round. It's not that I take mocks that seriously -- I take them as mostly driven by scuttlebutt talk-assessments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Finally started watching Chris Wormley from Michigan. That is one big Edge player. Lined him inside some, but mostly 5 tech or a bit wider. He just weighed in at the Senior Bowl at 296 lbs. He carries that weight well. He's got some potential, his technique looks like it needs some work on the outside. But when he does line up inside, and doesn't get doubled, he can create pressure. I think he can develop into a versatile DL. I'd be in favor of drafting him. CBS lists him as a 2nd rounder. If he's there at #49, I wonder if McCloughan ditches his recent track record and rolls the dice on a position he doesn't value as highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Burgundy Burner@BurgundyBurner Follow More The Redskins had a meeting today with the following player at the Senior Bowl: Forrest Lamp, G, Western Kentucky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake88 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Oh man, lamp and a blue rb would be beautiful. Defense be damned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Alcoholic Zebra said: Finally started watching Chris Wormley from Michigan. That is one big Edge player. Lined him inside some, but mostly 5 tech or a bit wider. He just weighed in at the Senior Bowl at 296 lbs. We've had just about every beat reporter stress D line as for what they sense from the team that the top need is. JP Finley has twice (doubled down) on Wormley and Mcdowell. Yeah I've watched Wormley some, too. As you mentioned, he played a lot of DE. And Charlton was rushing from the other side. Formidable dual. Ironically just noticed Finley interviewed Wormley, today. I doubt even Scot knows who he wants to draft yet. But I think Wormley is a safe prospect to study in that he's likely one they'd highly consider. He fits the Scot type of player profile wise. He's a senior. He played in the big ten. Team captain. He seems like an articulate guy, reading some of his quotes. Steve Frederick @SportsGuyTweets 3h3 hours ago More #Michigan DL Chris Wormley has been a handful to contain in 1on1's #SeniorBowl Retweet Steve Frederick @SportsGuyTweets 3h3 hours ago More #Michigan DL Chris Wormley has received praise from the Bears coaching staff during position drills. Like Josh Liskiewitz @PFF_Josh 4h4 hours ago More #Michigan DE Chris Wormley had a missed tackler percentage of just 6.9% - he was the only North edge player in single digits. #SeniorBowl NFL_DRAFT_Bites @NFLDraftBites 4h4 hours ago More #SeniorBowl Redskins very interested Michigan D-Linemen Chris Wormley. Natural scheme fit. Robbie Duncan Retweeted JP FinlayVerified account @JPFinlayCSN 2h2 hours ago More Intvwd #Michigan DL Chris Wormley. Dude is MASSIVE and wants to show NFL he can play 3-4. Watch for video on @CSNRedskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 He's like a Calasis Campbell right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Does anybody have any data on why our redzone fails were fails? To me it seemed we had no banger threat inside the 5. That would put pressure on you even when you're out of goal-to-go situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlesnake88 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 He reminds me of richard seymour. (Wormley) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Reparations Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 58 minutes ago, skinfan2k said: He's like a Calasis Campbell right?? I have forever linked Calais Cambell with Vinny Cerrato. Thank God Vinny is no longer here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswerdlw Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 I hope this is the right place to ask. Was there every any resolution about what happened to our 5th round pick that we may or may not have traded to SF for Derek Carrier? Do we have one or two picks in the 5th round? (sorry if this has been covered elsewhere or earlier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabbypatty Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Darth Tater said: Does anybody have any data on why our redzone fails were fails? To me it seemed we had no banger threat inside the 5. That would put pressure on you even when you're out of goal-to-go situations. It's that stupid assed running scheme gruden bright with him. It's so transparent the defense almost always knows run by the personnel (Ryan Grant) and those lame pack everyone in the middle of the field formations. Running traps inside the 5 ain't gonna get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, dswerdlw said: I hope this is the right place to ask. Was there every any resolution about what happened to our 5th round pick that we may or may not have traded to SF for Derek Carrier? Do we have one or two picks in the 5th round? (sorry if this has been covered elsewhere or earlier) That 5th is gone, I believe...the question is whether Carrier played enough snaps. If he didn't, we get a 7th back I believe. Common thought around here is that there's no way he played enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 7 hours ago, wilco_holland said: When will he do that? I don't want to sound like Mr. Grumpy but with these limited hitting in practise...it's pretty dam hard to teach hitting stuff or get rid of bad habits. (Kinda annoing rule if you ask me) I was just studying your sig. We know the answer to 1, will know the answer to q2 next month but no answer to q3 until April. If you had added something about FA, maybe there would be a question that would probably be answered in March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilco_holland Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Darth Tater said: I was just studying your sig. We know the answer to 1, will know the answer to q2 next month but no answer to q3 until April. If you had added something about FA, maybe there would be a question that would probably be answered in March. Good one! Will try that thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 hours ago, Darth Tater said: Does anybody have any data on why our redzone fails were fails? To me it seemed we had no banger threat inside the 5. That would put pressure on you even when you're out of goal-to-go situations. Did you see the lack of push from the OL? There is your answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 14 hours ago, crabbypatty said: I like foster, but the way he hits is concerning. many of his big shots were really high and would be a penalty every time in the nfl.. hopefully he can adjust his strike zone. Just out of curiosity in keeping with healthy banter, when you watch Cunningham for example, does a certain type of penalty come to mind when analyzing his tackles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 11 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: We've had just about every beat reporter stress D line as for what they sense from the team that the top need is. So now we're using need as the basis for our draft strategy? Because the implication being stated here is contrary to the narrative told before, that going need in the draft is bad, that McC is a pure BPA ideologue. I keep being told by ES how McC operates, yet the logic espoused by the media here contradicts that. I've lost count the number of times the media guys have drawn huge conclusions to prospects that the Skins have interviewed, or shown interest in, or dropped crumbs about. 11 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: JP Finley has twice (doubled down) on Wormley Which selection is being referenced in relation to Wormley? Quote Steve Frederick @SportsGuyTweets 3h3 hours ago#Michigan DL Chris Wormley has been a handful to contain in 1on1's #SeniorBowl I watched the North practice and saw a few reps by Wormley, neither handful nor contain were words that popped into my mind. Quote NFL_DRAFT_Bites @NFLDraftBites 4h4 hours ago More #SeniorBowl Redskins very interested Michigan D-Linemen Chris Wormley. Natural scheme fit. So maybe I'm the only one who finds these associations lazy. I don't want to get into the whole 3-4 -- Nickel Base **** again, but I get so tired of folks "scheme fitting" us with base 3-4 front 5-Techs, as if that even relates to us anymore. Unless we hybridize the way our 4 man front operates ... and I could get more detailed about that. Just, ugh. Quote JP FinlayVerified account @JPFinlayCSN Intvwd #Michigan DL Chris Wormley. Dude is MASSIVE and wants to show NFL he can play 3-4. So, the guy who weighs just under 300 lbs is massive compared to all the other guys who weigh 300 lbs or more? I'm not quite following Finlay's logic here. I will recognizing that the 33 and 1/2 inch arm measurement is a good measurement, if the conversation relates to 5-Tech and 2-Gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 OMG, the editing with twitter **** is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Monk4thaHALL said: OMG, the editing with twitter **** is insane. Yeah, sucks. Theres a few features that suck, like the quote edits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboomking Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Monk, what did you see from Wormley in the practices? How did he look to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RemoveSnyder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, theboomking said: Monk, what did you see from Wormley in the practices? How did he look to you? I didn't see anything to draw any conclusions from. I honestly don't know how anybody could on a pretty limited rep Day 1. The tweet reeks of exaggeration or outright speculation. But folks like to micro analyze everything from the Senior Bowl. Honestly, all you want to see, all I want to see, is an affirmation of the film. You want the reps and the technique and the body size to align with the game film if you are trying to solidify anything concrete. And, all I can tell you from the film I've seen of Wormley, so far, is "meh." Not really impressed at all. There was limited coverage of the practice on NFL network, I imagine there could have been something in a rep or two that guys on the field saw. I'm not in Mobile, even though I'd love to be, so, maybe he beat the dude from Bucknell badly and everyone desperate for a headline ran to the phone booth to call their editor. IDK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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