PokerPacker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 17 years as a GM and you gave me a list of 22 players. Most of which are fan favorites which constantly fail to deliver, a couple of which are out of the league... one of which has won multiple cups with another team and never played for the Caps, a few of which are strong players, and then you have best goal scorer of our generation... possibly in the history of our game.That's a lot of solid draft picks, especially with how late some of them were drafted. Some other players acquired by McPhee: Sergei Fedorov, Mike Knuble, Victor Kozlov, Cristobal Huet (hey, only one post season, but it was a hell of a run to get there), Brooks Laich (he was great for us before the lockout/injury), Matthieu Perreault, Matt Hendricks, Dennis Wideman, Thomas Fleischmann, John Erskine (he was a playoff performer on D), Joel Ward, Jason Chimera, Mikhail Grabovski, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 That's a lot of solid draft picks, especially with how late some of them were drafted. Some other players acquired by McPhee: Sergei Fedorov, Mike Knuble, Victor Kozlov, Cristobal Huet (hey, only one post season, but it was a hell of a run to get there), Brooks Laich (he was great for us before the lockout/injury), Matthieu Perreault, Matt Hendricks, Dennis Wideman, Thomas Fleischmann, John Erskine (he was a playoff performer on D), Joel Ward, Jason Chimera, Mikhail Grabovski, etc.. Not saying he couldn't find solid players. I think my point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Not saying he couldn't find solid players. I think my point stands. the point being that... he built a President Trophy winning team from the ground up so clearly he sucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 the point being that... he built a President Trophy winning team from the ground up so clearly he sucks? He built dick. He lucked into an incredible AHL coach because all the other coaches before that sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 the point being that... he built a President Trophy winning team from the ground up so clearly he sucks? The point being, without Ovechkin, this isn't a consistent playoff team. Read carefully youngster. I'm talking to a local kid here who couldn't even root for the Redskins. Band wagoneer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The point being, without Ovechkin, this isn't a consistent playoff team. Read carefully youngster. I'm talking to a local kid here who couldn't even root for the Redskins. Band wagoneer. I don't need to defend my fandom to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 I don't need to defend my fandom to you. You don't! And you didn't defend your point either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Anyhow, McPhee sucks and he can rot in the desert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Johansson signs 3 yr. $13.75M deal. https://capitalstoday.monumentalsportsnetwork.com/2016/07/20/capitals-re-sign-marcus-johansson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 Johansson signs 3 yr. $13.75M deal. https://capitalstoday.monumentalsportsnetwork.com/2016/07/20/capitals-re-sign-marcus-Johansson Nice! Was just coming in to post that. I don't hate the deal. I think it's fair. Hopefully the stability calms him down. Either way, that's a very tradable contract. ThePeerless@ThePeerless 7m7 minutes ago Next year, Caps have AB65, EK92 as RFAs, Oshie, Alzner, and Williams are UFAs. Think this year is important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Ah, sweet.. So they avoided arbitration with Mojo after all.. Should be able to unload him for something now, if need be!! Even though I'd of been fine with the cap space and letting some hungry prospect get a chance.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Nice! Was just coming in to post that. I don't hate the deal. I think it's fair. Hopefully the stability calms him down. Either way, that's a very tradable contract. ThePeerless@ThePeerless 7m7 minutes ago Next year, Caps have AB65, EK92 as RFAs, Oshie, Alzner, and Williams are UFAs. Think this year is important? EXCELLENT deal. And like you all have been saying, it's a tradable contract. I have a feeling he'll be moved before next season to free up $$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 DTM About Heart @DTMAboutHeart 21m21 minutes ago This + his inability to put up impressive point totals leads to my disapproval of the Marcus Johansson contractpic.twitter.com/cuhCONeDi6 0 retweets 0 likes Joe Beninati @JoeBpXp 39s40 seconds ago Simply put, the next off-season for the Caps will be fascinating to watch unfold. So many key personnel decisions to be made. I have a feeling he'll be moved before next season to free up $$. We'll have to. I think this is the most important year in the history of the franchise. No Cup for the Caps likely means Ovi retires without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 EXCELLENT deal. And like you all have been saying, it's a tradable contract. I have a feeling he'll be moved before next season to free up $$. Wait, you mean that they will move him in the next month or two or after next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Wait, you mean that they will move him in the next month or two or after next season? Before the '17-'18 season. Not next month, bro LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Before the '17-'18 season. Not next month, bro LOL. That's what I thought but you said before next season. If that is really the plan than this contract sucks even more. If the Caps get lucky, McPhee will take him off their hands as that would be a good pickup for Vegas. Essentially the Caps are paying the guy that was 6th in scoring on the team and 7th in goals a contract that is the third most for offensive players on the team. Fine if it's a one year contract, but not for 3 years when you have other players far more important coming up as FAs. That contract sets the level for guys like Oshie, Kuvnetsov and Bura depending on their seasons. DTM About Heart @DTMAboutHeart 21m21 minutes ago This + his inability to put up impressive point totals leads to my disapproval of the Marcus Johansson contractpic.twitter.com/cuhCONeDi6 0 retweets 0 likes Joe Beninati @JoeBpXp 39s40 seconds ago Simply put, the next off-season for the Caps will be fascinating to watch unfold. So many key personnel decisions to be made. We'll have to. I think this is the most important year in the history of the franchise. No Cup for the Caps likely means Ovi retires without one. It shouldn't be. Letting guys like MoJo walk and getting rid of a contract like Orpik would give continued flexibility. They seem to be doing the opposite. I don't know when teams are allowed to start talking to McPhee, but that's the way to get the flexibility back. They can take MoJo in the expansion draft then give them a 2nd and Orpik for a 5th round pick. Something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 That's what I thought but you said before next season. If that is really the plan than this contract sucks even more. If the Caps get lucky, McPhee will take him off their hands as that would be a good pickup for Vegas. Essentially the Caps are paying the guy that was 6th in scoring on the team and 7th in goals a contract that is the third most for offensive players on the team. Fine if it's a one year contract, but not for 3 years when you have other players far more important coming up as FAs. That contract sets the level for guys like Oshie, Kuvnetsov and Bura depending on their seasons. Knowing what's at stake with our UFAs in '17, I really have zero doubt that he'll be moved. It's a VERY cap-friendly deal that will be enticing for a lot of other teams around the league. If you think about it, if this actually went to arbitration, he'd certainly command 5+ mil. This year, he's making 4.25 (increases to 4.75 over the last two.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 We're in a win-now mode. This contract is NOT untradable. Despite what the fancy stats say, Johansson is a key piece to the make up of this team. With the window slowly closing for this team and with some insanely huge decisions looming after the season, this was a deal, either through arbitration or regular negotiations, that had to get done. I'm not mad at this one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 20, 2016 Author Share Posted July 20, 2016 It shouldn't be. Letting guys like MoJo walk and getting rid of a contract like Orpik would give continued flexibility. They seem to be doing the opposite. I don't know when teams are allowed to start talking to McPhee, but that's the way to get the flexibility back. They can take MoJo in the expansion draft then give them a 2nd and Orpik for a 5th round pick. Something like that. That's the going rate for mediocrity these days. Someone will come for a bite of that apple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 We're going to have to take on another bad contract to move Orpik. We're not going to fleece anyone for him. Not happening. Hopefully Orpik is traded for a player who is younger and can hopefully be salvageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Mojo is an okay player but it seems like he's always whiffing pucks at point blank range. He really needs to learn to finish, but perhaps he's just not that type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Best case scenario, move MoJo for equal value and less cap hit after this year, and Orpik gets taken in the LV expansion draft. That opens up enough for two of our big pieces, right there. We might have to take some hits to move them though, but that's okay if we can extend the window another couple years. So MoJo deal isn't great, but it's workable, especially if we assume inflation will make his deal more and more palatable as we go. Glad it's done though. He's important to the success of the 3rd line. I think, seeing as we've added Eller and pushed Beagle down, that we have indeed improved the bottom 6 a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted July 21, 2016 Share Posted July 21, 2016 Way I see it, we'll end up with around 2.5 in space to sign Orlov.. Does he take it or shop the market? A team looking for a (young) physical puck mover could easily offer him 3+... He's got upside, but the mistakes he was making late last season are alarming.. Im torn whether I want him back or not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Isabelle Khurshudyan @ikhurshudyan 3h3 hours ago Reirden said he liked Orpik and Orlov together. So, he basically said the three partner options for Orlov are Orpik, Niskanen and Carlson. Isabelle Khurshudyan @ikhurshudyan 4h4 hours ago To this point, Todd Reirden alluded to a possible reunion of Alzner and Carlson. Isabelle Khurshudyan @ikhurshudyan 4h4 hours ago Trotz on Orlov: "I envision him playing with a Niskanen or a Carlson, probably more prime minutes against more guys." Mentioned PP and PK. Isabelle Khurshudyan @ikhurshudyan 5h5 hours ago Trotz says contract talks are ongoing between Caps and Orlov. Envisions Orlov playing with Niskanen or Carlson next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted September 10, 2016 Author Share Posted September 10, 2016 So Holtby doesn't start for Canada and the US nets 3 after 2. 3-1 lead for Murica with 20 to play. Oshie looks pretty good and Carlson looks about like he does this time of year. Caps preseason starts in a couple of weeks too. Just doesn't feel like hockey yet, but I'm glad it's on. I also think the NHL rinks are going to help the US play. Just a hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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