GoDeep81 Posted July 4, 2016 Share Posted July 4, 2016 and we are hoping for Wilson to step up to a top flight power forward(which I would love, but seems unlikely) Oh, make no mistake, we are PRAYING Wilson can take a step toward an actual power forward.. He's basically useless in his current role of taking penalties and disappearing on the 4th line.. W/o a solid 3rd line, we're just spinning wheels and getting ready for playoff failure once again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Plus losing a quick top 6 player. Wait, who from the top 6 did we lose? Ovi, Kuzy, Oshie, Bura, Backy, and Williams are all still here. A deal with MoJo will come down or he'll be replaced, but he's not really top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Wait, who from the top 6 did we lose? Ovi, Kuzy, Oshie, Bura, Backy, and Williams are all still here. A deal with MoJo will come down or he'll be replaced, but he's not really top 6. Mojo is a top 6 player on 20 teams in the NHL. He's better than Bura just got slotted down due to injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Mojo is a top 6 player on 20 teams in the NHL. He's better than Bura just got slotted down due to injuries. I think Bura has the potential to be better, MoJo is a known quantity, and it's between 2nd and 3rd line quality, while Bura is still a baby; he needed those top 6 minutes to grow and should grow into them very well over the coming years. Even if MoJo is top 6 on 20 teams, that still means he's not a 2nd liner on most playoff quality teams. I'm not saying MoJo is bad, but I don't think he's a bona fide top 6 forward in the NHL, and that's part of the reason there's friction on the dollar amount. If he was definitely a top 6 player, I don't think there'd be as much concern over his 4.5M asking price as there currently is. Indeed, his 3.75M was already tied for 42nd among LWs, which, even if we assume he's a top 6 forward on 20 teams would be a good salary (since he'd be slotted somewhere between 40 and 60 in that estimation anyway). But ceiling and salary talks aside we still haven't lost him, he's either coming back or will be replaced, probably with someone like Yakupov, who, while not having as much production as MoJo, has also been locked into a bit of a messy organization, he could potentially flourish here, or, if not, he'll at least bring solid 3rd line production making the drop off between MoJo and him minimal. We've got plenty of cap space this year to sign somebody, so no need to worry, 3rd LW will be filled effectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Agree that Bura has a higher potential than Mojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Apparently Orlov did not file for arbitration and does not appear to intend to. Isabelle Khurshudyan @ikhurshudyan 1h1 hour ago Dmitry Orlov will not file for arbitration. The deadline for club-elected arbitration is tomorrow at 5 p.m. She is still waiting on news with regards to MoJo, per her tweets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I'm seeing that MoJo is going for arbitration. That's probably gonna cost us, because I'm also hearing he's got some favorable comps. Frankly, I just don't get it, he's seeking top 30 LW money, but he's not a top 30 LW. I could maaaaaybe see a slight pay bump to put him in the top 40 (preferably below 35 though), with some logic backflips to make it alright, but top 30 pay just feels way off the mark, even after assuming he's a 2nd liner in a little more than half the league AND that we need to account for inflation. Can we trade once arbitration has been asked for? I have to double check the rules later but there were some wrinkles there. If we can, now would he the time to trade him and change for Yakupov, now that we've realized we ain't getting out of arbitration without paying at least something like 4.25M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 I don't know if we can trade Mojo or not at this stage. I know we could've traded his rights during the draft and was hoping we would. He took some tremendous steps last season but he's not going to get any better where we need him too. And that might be okay come this year. He scored dirty goals that he would've missed in season's past. I don't put much if any of the playoff heart ache on MoJo... but I did look at him as a chip in a trade that could've brought us someone else. As for Orlov, I'm in the same boat with him only more so. Dude is still a blue chip OFD prospect. We're thick on the farm with defense with Johanson, Seigenthaler, Bowey, and others... if we can afford to drop some weight somewhere it was with him. I promise that Edmonton would've snatched him up with the quickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Orlov can walk for all I care. If Mojo leaves, we need to add speed to keep up the pace lost with Chim and Mojo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 At this point, if Orlov can be kept around for close to what he's been getting, I'm okay with it. Between Bowey, Orlov, and LuJo, in about 4 years time we should have one of the top 3 scoring defenses in the NHL, anything less will be a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 I'm more interested in seeing what happens with Siegenthaler than all the puck-movers. I mean, offensive defensemen are great and all, but it seems like they're to be found everywhere while a stay-at-home defenseman is a bit harder to find. I had high hopes for Patrick Wey before a couple of talentless pieces of **** ended his career. In regards to Orlov, I'd love to see what he could do if were to focus more on his defensive game. He's definitely got the physicality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capcrunch98 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Vegas takes a gamble and selects George McPhee as its GM. I wish him well, but I'm not expecting much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 MoJo asks for $5.25M, Caps offer $3.85M in arbritration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 MoJo asks for $5.25M, Caps offer $3.85M in arbritration. :lol: That's a laughy face for every missed goal he had in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 Rangers got a good player here SportsCentre @SportsCentre 2m2 minutes ago JUST IN: @Senators acquire Brassard, 2018 seventh-round pick from @NYRangers for Zibanejad, 2018 second-round pick.pic.twitter.com/kWI8lL3Pg7 26 retweets 12 likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Vegas takes a gamble and selects George McPhee as its GM. I wish him well, but I'm not expecting much. GMGM will do well there. Let's not forget he built a President Trophy winning team from the ground up in Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 McPhee isn't as bad as people made him out to be here. The Forsberg trade was disastrous but it was a move made out of desperation to keep his job which you should never put your GM in a position to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 McPhee isn't as bad as people made him out to be here. The Forsberg trade was disastrous but it was a move made out of desperation to keep his job which you should never put your GM in a position to make.Pretty much. And the only reason we had Forsberg to fritter away on a bad trade was because of the shrewd trade of the oft-injured Varlamov for a 1st and 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 I'm done with the McPhee bashing... but don't tell me he was any good. Don't you dare. If he didn't luck into Ovechkin he was straight doo doo. And he spent a good amount of Ovi's prime doing nothing to help him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I'm done with the McPhee bashing... but don't tell me he was any good. Don't you dare. If he didn't luck into Ovechkin he was straight doo doo. And he spent a good amount of Ovi's prime doing nothing to help him. The first few years of Ovi we were still in total rebuilding mode. You can't say he did nothing outside of Ovi. He got us Backstrom, Green and Semin(had some good years here), and he drafted not one not two but three quality goalies including a guy who just won the Vezina. In fact I think a good chunk of our roster that's still here now, or what was our roster this past season anyway, was McPhee acquisitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popeman38 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 The first few years of Ovi we were still in total rebuilding mode. You can't say he did nothing outside of Ovi. He got us Backstrom, Green and Semin(had some good years here), and he drafted not one not two but three quality goalies including a guy who just won the Vezina. In fact I think a good chunk of our roster that's still here now, or what was our roster this past season anyway, was McPhee acquisitions. McPhee drafted: Ovechkin Backstrom Johansson Kuznetsov Burakovsky Wilson Beagle Galiev Carlson Alzner Orlov Schmidt (UFA Rookie) Holtby Grubauer Forsberg Fehr Semin Gordon Odoya Green Varlamov Neuvirth He may have been atrocious at the trade deadline and in FA, but he could draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted July 19, 2016 Author Share Posted July 19, 2016 The first few years of Ovi we were still in total rebuilding mode. You can't say he did nothing outside of Ovi. He got us Backstrom, Green and Semin(had some good years here), and he drafted not one not two but three quality goalies including a guy who just won the Vezina. In fact I think a good chunk of our roster that's still here now, or what was our roster this past season anyway, was McPhee acquisitions. Without Ovechkin none of his teams were playoff teams. Everyone has a good draft pick or two. But he didn't have a clue how to build a franchise. And it'll show with Vegas. McPhee drafted: He may have been atrocious at the trade deadline and in FA, but he could draft. 17 years as a GM and you gave me a list of 22 players. Most of which are fan favorites which constantly fail to deliver, a couple of which are out of the league... one of which has won multiple cups with another team and never played for the Caps, a few of which are strong players, and then you have best goal scorer of our generation... possibly in the history of our game. I think I'll wet my pants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 My primary hope is that McPhee takes someone expensive from us next year who we don't protect. Orpik would be ideal but he was signed after McPhee, right? Could still see it, but maybe less likely. Maybe if we get roped into a 4.5M+ contract with MoJo he'll take that off our hands. Could definitely see it since he drafted the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoDeep81 Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Maybe if we get roped into a 4.5M+ contract with MoJo he'll take that off our hands. Could definitely see it since he drafted the guy. I think Mojo will already be off our hands.. He can only sign a 1 year deal now that it's gone to arb.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Man, **** McPhee. Dude sucks fat dick at making hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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