Riggo#44 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Is there a better GM than Mike Rizzo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Why do they say "player to be named later" when they know what player it is? So, we've got Desmond under contract for one more year, but just traded for a guy who should replace him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Why do they say "player to be named later" when they know what player it is? So, we've got Desmond under contract for one more year, but just traded for a guy who should replace him? Player to be named later because that player has been under contract for less than 6 months and can't technically be traded yet, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I don't really like losing Souza but this seems like a sweet deal. Long live Rizzo! I liked Souza as well, but he probably deserves a crack at being an everyday player. That wasn't going to happen here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Player to be named later because that player has been under contract for less than 6 months and can't technically be traded yet, Ahhh,.,now I get it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I liked Souza as well, but he probably deserves a crack at being an everyday player. That wasn't going to happen here. Not next year, but there was a place for him in 2016. And, frankly, I don't think there is any way our outfield doesn't miss 60+ games next season. If Matt had been willing, Souza would have gotten some regular playing time next season and been ready to challenge for the full time RF/CF position in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Corey Block - From an NL scout on now former #Padres prospect Trea Turner: "Turner for me was one of the easiest everyday SS grades I've ever written." http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/baseball-joe/blog/nats-could-be-big-winner-in-3-team-trade-of-padres-getting-rays-myers-121714 The immediate reaction from a handful of executives is that the Nationals are faring the best, acquiring right-hander Joe Ross and shortstop Trea Turner as a player to be named. “I think the Nats must have pics on TB and SD!!” one exec said. “They are the clear winner. Not even close.” Could be: Ross, the younger brother of Tyson Ross, is one of the Padres’ best pitching prospects. Turner, the 13th overall pick in last year’s draft, is a potential replacement for the Nationals’ Ian Desmond, who is entering his free-agent year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 While this is good for the long term future, it doesn't address the 2015 roster needs. Don't really have a quality offering at second base. The bench is weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Not sure Souza was going to have a huge impact in 2015 but obviously that's never going to be known. He would have been a nice utility guy, but if you can basically replace Desmond for virtually no cost (this guy was drafted in 2014 so his contract likely runs cheaply through 2020) ... and you get another young pitcher? Maybe you have more room to flip some of these pitching prospects now for areas of need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The Fox Sports article by Rosenthal that states the Nats are likely the winner of the trade, reports that Turner is likely Desmond's replacement, but that some thing his arm strength may make him more of a 2B than a SS ... EVEN BETTER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 The Fox Sports article by Rosenthal that states the Nats are likely the winner of the trade, reports that Turner is likely Desmond's replacement, but that some thing his arm strength may make him more of a 2B than a SS ... EVEN BETTER! how is that better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 how is that better? Well the article just made that sound like a negative thing about Turner and possibly the trade, since he may not be a SS but a 2B ... but I just spun it to be a positive nonetheless since 2B is a hole, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinswillwin06 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Player to be named later because that player has been under contract for less than 6 months and can't technically be traded yet, Thanks. ESPN article says the following: Washington will receive right-hander Joe Ross and shortstop Trea Turner as a player to be named later on June 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I think Rizzo wants to go into 2015 with the same team(minus Laroche of course) and make another run at a ring. Even without making any major acquisitions, we're still among the favorites to win it all. Now we're ALSO set up to succeed in the future as well. The guy knows what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins0721 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I think Rizzo wants to go into 2015 with the same team(minus Laroche of course) and make another run at a ring. Even without making any major acquisitions, we're still among the favorites to win it all. Now we're ALSO set up to succeed in the future as well. The guy knows what he's doing. Yeah, I agree. As Slateman posted earlier, Souza seemed destined to be a backup on the bench this year, possibly replacing McLouth. As of now, the Nats will have Frandsen & McLouth as backups but still have a spot for 2 or 3 more people. Also, the hole at 2B still needs to be filled. Espi full-time at 2B is a scary thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/breaking-down-the-prospects-in-the-wil-myers-trade/ Fangraphs breakdown of the trade. Really excited about Turner. They'll start him Double A. Could even end up as a call up 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmySmith Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I think Rizzo wants to go into 2015 with the same team(minus Laroche of course) and make another run at a ring. Even without making any major acquisitions, we're still among the favorites to win it all. Now we're ALSO set up to succeed in the future as well. The guy knows what he's doing. Unfortunately he sucks at picking managers. The best one he had was Riggleman, and he sent him packing in favor of the worst playoff manager of all time. Williams ain't much better than Davey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ixcuincle Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Give him time Davey and matt are good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I very much like the trade. I don't think Souza or Turner were going to be significant impacts in the near term...both would be more long term plans. I think it'll be far easier andor cheaper to find a legitimate starting caliber player in the outfield than trying to find a replacement at SS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grego Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Unfortunately he sucks at picking managers. The best one he had was Riggleman, and he sent him packing in favor of the worst playoff manager of all time. Williams ain't much better than Davey. well, riggleman quit mid season. not sure if thats the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 well, riggleman quit mid season. not sure if thats the same thing. All great managers quit in midseason, with your team on a hot streak, and then go drinking at Chadwick's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Looking back on that, how ****ing stupid was Riggleman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Looking back on that, how ****ing stupid was Riggleman? This team was on the cusp. He had one of the most enviable positions. And he just walked away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Looking back on that, how ****ing stupid was Riggleman? he picked one hell of a moment to have a mid-life crisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeWolf990 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 If Kemp has really messed it up for us, Im going to be HEATED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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