RiverboatGambler Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 This is a good move for the long-term of this franchise regardless of whether Kirk plays well or poorly. It will show us whether the sack problem is on the QB or the offensive line. It will show us whether the big play problem is on the receivers or the QB. It will show us whether the scoring problem is on the QB or the offensive coordinator. All of these questions have much better answers with Cousins starting a game or two than with Griffin playing the final 3. These next 3 games prove nothing and show nothing. Eagles are winning the division, Cowboys and Giants will probably have nothing to play for two Sundays from now, None of these teams have an effective pass rush or defense in general. All it will do is A ruin Kirk's trade value or B create a QB controversy and drive Robert to another team. Either way it will be turmoil. Thankfully the season is nearly done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 He's putting it back onto Snyder, saying he wouldn't have done this if Dan wasn't behind it 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyHolt Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 ANYONE WANT TO TALK FOOTBALL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I don't believe one single solitary word coming out of Shanahan's mouth right now. Maske's question about playing RG3 in the KC game caught him. His rambling response didn't elaborate on the logic of why he played him in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Good decision Mike. This is win-win, starting RGIII accomplishes nothing. Starting Kirk accomplishes a lot. If he plays well, it increases his trade value and maybe you recoup a draft pick this year or you decide he's the man going forward. If not then nothing lost.. Makes perfect sense to me, but I guess I'm not looking at this is a bias way like 3/4ths of this board. So we would gain something out of this if we wasted all those picks on RG3? And let's say Kirk plays well, at best we probably get a 2nd for him. If he does play well, why would we trade him if we know we have a valuable insurance policy? I don't really care whether his style of response is good or bad, I'm only concerned with the substance of it. I don't see how anybody can take his response as anything other than "I don't believe coach's explanation, I just don't wanna make waves right now." It was pretty obvious to me what he thought, but whatever. So what did you want him to say? Of course he's not ****ing happy. Would you be happy if you just lost your job or got a demotion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Whats worse is certain Redskins fans are eating this bunkum up. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 He's spinning like a top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Man this is so funny. Shanny is losing his cool up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Haha. Did he just throw Dr Andrews under the bus AGAIN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 We should ALL be rooting for Kirk. This is his chance to earn us a draft pick back and earn his opportunity to be a starting NFL QB somewhere. He's a good QB, and I think he'll do well if our OL can provide him some decent pass pro. One advantage I think Kirk has is that he's not a threat to run the ball. That may not seem like an advantage, but in our offense, with all of the bootlegs and PA, defenses usually won't consider Cousins a threat, and therefor won't account for him in the bootleg/PA game. With Griffin, you rarely see him come out of a bootleg or PA without the backside defender accounting for him. With Cousins, I've seen that teams(the Browns last year especially) will crash down the line, and Cousins usually has more time to set up without that defender concerned about him running. Should be interesting to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Sneaky lil' **** is putting this back on Snyders toes. Who needs leaks when you have a podium? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Come on, Snyder! Steel chair to the head out of nowhere would be awesome! "HA-HA! I'm not at any league meeting, fools!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 So we would gain something out of this if we wasted all those picks on RG3? And let's say Kirk plays well, at best we probably get a 2nd for him. If he does play well, why would we trade him if we know we have a valuable insurance policy? So what did you want him to say? Of course he's not ****ing happy. Would you be happy if you just lost your job or got a demotion? I'll try to say it again, I don't care if he's happy or not happy. That wasn't the question to him. The question wasn't about his feelings. It was do you or do you not believe the reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattFancy Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'll try to say it again, I don't care if he's happy or not happy. That wasn't the question to him. The question wasn't about his feelings. It was do you or do you not believe the reasoning. Do you believe the reasoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncr2h Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 So last year never happened? Jury is still out on Robert? Last year did happen, and unfortunately the more we take into account the results of last year, the more it looks like our offense sucks this year because of RG3. Sacks? RG3 took a high rate last year. Big plays? RG3 made them last year. Better receivers this year, less big plays. It's probably the QB who is (injured / didn't get an offseason to practice / excuse du jour) Points? We scored them last year. Better players this year. Less points. It's probably the QB. You don't think putting Kirk in there provides valuable feedback about who is to blame for our offensive ineptitude this season? If we blow the doors off the other teams, clearly it was RG3's fault. If we suck ass, then RG3 was helping us rather than hurting us, and we need to overhaul most of the positions on offense as well as the scheme. If we're somewhere in between, it's a gray area and we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAILSKINSNYC Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Shanny is emotional....throwing people under the bus left and right.....Snyder, Dr. Andrews, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Have you EVER seen him jumping and twitching around like this? A polygraph right now would be off the freaking charts. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Shanny is getting very agitated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverboatGambler Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I'll try to say it again, I don't care if he's happy or not happy. That wasn't the question to him. The question wasn't about his feelings. It was do you or do you not believe the reasoning. Why does that matter to you? You believe in Shanahan's reasoning? Has it brought us success so far over his tenure as coach? You go what you wanted this week, be thankful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins and Lions Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Shanahan is trying as hard as he can to get Snyder to fire him. Let RG3 sit and ship Cousins out if he plays well. By waiting 3 weeks, Snyder is looking like the bigger man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justice98 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Do you believe the reasoning? I do not. Not even a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Better receivers this year, less big plays. What? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodriggo Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Last year did happen, and unfortunately the more we take into account the results of last year, the more it looks like our offense sucks this year because of RG3. He tore his ACL. Had no offseason to prepare. His head coach saw last year and wanted to quit after it. Not valid excuses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Has anyone asked him about the offensive play calling, the defense, the special teams....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 So far he has thrown Snyder and Dr Andrews under the bus, along with denigrating all non-QB positions and taking at least two little shots at Griffin by saying he doesn't understand this or that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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