SlinginSammy HOF '63 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Meanwhile, Jason Campbell has thrown for 350 yards and 3 TDs and a little over two minutes from beating the Pats. We are cursed. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Wow, IMO Shanahan is going to be fired by tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Shanny did NOT deny the ESPN report today. He is done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Got asked if he still wanted to be coach....and he declined to comment lol clown HTTR24-7.com @HTTR24_722s Mike wont even say he wants to remain the coach.. This is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I am fine with framing this discussion from the standpoint of Dan Snyder being ultimately responsible for the on field failures of this regime and every other regime. He makes the ultimate decisions, and when he chooses to delegate decision making authority to a HC, GM, whomever, he rightly can be held responsible for the short comings of those people he enable. However, there is a pretty large disconnect between the blame he gets for short comings and the credit he receives for success. When there is success, it is in spite of him, and when there is failure it is because of him. If we are going to frame him as the responsible party today, make sure the same is done when there is success. To be clear, we all knew in the back of our minds that the delegation of responsibility was a potential cause for concern, and lo it has come to pass that this was ultimately a bad hire on the part of Snyder. He made a bad decision in hindsight (and foresight for some). However, a vast majority of the problems that have lead us to this point have NOTHING to do with Snyder "creating an atmosphere that was not conducive to winning." Snyder did not whiff on 9 of 11 picks in 2011. Snyder had nothing to do with signing average, career rotation/backup players like Bowen, Cofield, Wilson (one of the worst CBs in the league and paid the 31st most for all CBs) and Chester (one of the worst guards in the league, and paid the 19th most for all guards) to starter money. Snyder didn't think Josh Morgan was worth $6 million a year, making him the 25th highest paid WR/year in the league, more per year than Jordy Nelson got on his contract. Snyder didn't affect the multitude of horrible trades in 2010. Snyder did not hire Keith Burns. Snyder did not exhibit four years of clock management ineptitude and horrid challenging prowess. Snyder did not hand pick Jim Haslett and insist on a 3-4 defense. These decision are all independent decisions, made by one man. Now, the decision to empower that one man - yeah, that was a mistake. But let's not pretend that the REASON these mistakes were made were because "Dan Snyder created an atmosphere that was not conducive to winning." I have no love lost for Snyder, but it took YEARS of independent mistakes to get us to this point, mistakes that were made while we were busy lauding the owner for his hands-off approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Jay Glazer @JayGlazer34s Shanny wouldn't commit to a QB next week, prob bc he's not sure he'll be there next week too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 That was the PC of a man who wants out NOW. Hopefully Dan figures out a way to get something from Houston for the Shanny's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 These decision are all independent decisions, made by one man. Now, the decision to empower that one man - yeah, that was a mistake. But let's not pretend that the REASON these mistakes were made were because "Dan Snyder created an atmosphere that was not conducive to winning." I have no love lost for Snyder, but it took YEARS of independent mistakes to get us to this point, mistakes that were made while we were busy lauding the owner for his hands-off approach. can i like you multiple times please I'm btw saying this as the guy who thought Shanny was a genius. Wow, I got fooled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 can i like you multiple times please I'm btw saying this as the guy who thought Shanny was a genius. Wow, I got fooled. I was a Shanahan guy too. It wasn't until recently when I did a 180 turn on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONTHEWARPATH93 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I was a Shanahan guy too. It wasn't until recently when I did a 180 turn on that. was so excited when we first got him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Shawn Springs saying Bob Kraft sat at Tom Brady's locker every week, and rode the treadmill next to him in the weight rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I predict yet another "Heart/leadership" angry man rant from B Mitch on CSN postgame. actually you are getting a the owner needs to remove himself from the football program type of rant. He is too close to the players. He is too close to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Shawn Springs saying Bob Kraft sat at Tom Brady's locker every week, and rode the treadmill next to him in the weight rooms. That's unpossible! All the people who hate Snyder have assured me that it is Dan and ONLY Dan who is responsible for our team's woes right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 That's unpossible! All the people who hate Snyder have assured me that it is Dan and ONLY Dan who is responsible for our team's woes right now. Really? I'd be surprised if there was one person who believed that the Snyder-RGIII relationship is the foremost reason for our 3-10 record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 You're right, they never will because they can't seem to spread the blame around. It always has to be one thing or person. Big issue with our fanbase here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Meanwhile, Jason Campbell has thrown for 350 yards and 3 TDs and a little over two minutes from beating the Pats. We are cursed. LOL Two touchdowns by the Pats in the last 1:05! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 That's unpossible! All the people who hate Snyder have assured me that it is Dan and ONLY Dan who is responsible for our team's woes right now. Reinforced my feeling that an owner being very close to his star QB isn't unheard of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tris Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Meanwhile, Jason Campbell has thrown for 350 yards and 3 TDs and a little over two minutes from beating the Pats. We are cursed. LOL It's almost like whether you have Josh Gordon in 2010 or Josh Gordon in 2013, you are a much better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martytheman Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 It's weird to say, but I agree. A new staff and a decent defense, along with RG3 getting right (and I have no doubt that he will), and we'll be okay. FA $$, plus high picks in the 2nd round and beyond...this won't be your standard rebuild with the right GM/coaching staff. thats all we can hope for unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoCalMike Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 So Dan Snyder has basically morphed from Jerry Jones 2.0 to Al Davis 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darc Requiem Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 I just thought about something. If this story is true. It means Shanahan quit on the team prior to their playoff game with Seattle last year. That would put a new and potentially problematic spin on RG3 being left in the game last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverboatGambler Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Try for Art Briles or David Shaw. Shaw probably wouldn't come near this dumpster fire but Briles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Shawn Springs saying Bob Kraft sat at Tom Brady's locker every week, and rode the treadmill next to him in the weight rooms. And Irsay has reportedly been close with Luck. It's not an uncommon thing. JKC I believe was close with some players too. This is something Shanny could have addressed with Snyder, not pulled an antic before the playoffs (if the story is true). If Shanny has quit already despite telling the team not to even if we're out of it, then bye-bye. Time to hit the reset button, promote Bruce, and let Morocco GM. At least this team has a better foundation for the enxt HC to work with than what Zorn left it as after '09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasRoane Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 Lets hire another great coaching prospect and ruin their reputation. ROFL that's a great sig!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted December 8, 2013 Share Posted December 8, 2013 It's pure damage control. Shanahan knows that he has more NFL street cred than Danny. So he can spew this **** and come out looking like th victim. I want him fired after the game. **** it, before the game. Fire him at kickoff. Let him, his "legacy" and his shot at Canton, let it burn. I have a feeling that our 7game run last year was like our 5 game run in 2001 - the coach quit on the players and the players set out to prove him wrong. You know... if you want to go there. You can easily make the argument that Shanny packed it in right before the seven game winning streak. Remember, when he said it was now time to evaluate. Then, the team surprised him and started winning. Certainly, they had no fight whatsoever today. From snap one I'm not sure if they were ever in this game. Horribly embarrassing. The stands were horrible too. I don't really blame the fans for not showing up and then leaving early, but I've never seen them so empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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