s0crates Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Several state-by-state polls for key states have been posted and discussed in this thread in multiple posts by multiple different people with links included. I stand corrected. I'm looking at some of those polls now. In looking at the latest polls in Virginia, Ohio, and Florida, it looks to me like they support the notion that Bernie fairs better than Hillary. What SC actually suggests is that there might be an issue with respect to the polls for Hillary and/or Sanders. I'm having a hard time understanding how the polls could have been off by 20%, but I see a few possibilities: 1. The polling data was not accurate (maybe some flaw in the methodology of most polling organizations, with the exception of Clemson). 2. The people who were polled did not show up to vote (the turnout was awfully low, so that could very well explain it). 3. The voting machines were rigged (believe it or not, it's within the realm of possibility, I can show you some studies by computer scientists and mathematicians if you doubt it). I'm thinking 2 is most likely (because 1 seems unlikely to me considering all the different pollsters, 2 is supported by the fact that only 10% of eligible voters turned out, and 3 is something I just don't want to believe). Hopefully we can get better turnout moving forward. If the 99% would vote, then the 1% would lose. I'm actually now not sure what to make of any of the polling related to Hillary and/or Sanders so I'd in general take a step back from discussing what polling means. Maybe you're right that the polling data is all useless, but it's the only data we have. Without it all we can do is speculate. I'm pretty sure they will "give the thing" to he who has won the most primaries. Great! Do we know who that is yet? Sorry that doesn't fit the narrative of the valiant underdog being oppressed because the world is against him. The narrative is not that the world is against him, it is that the establishment is against him. And quite frankly that narrative is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Alternate theory regarding high turnout in Repub primaries.It's a conspiracy orchestrated by the Internet meme generator lobby. They want Hillary or Donald bad. It's the only way they' can continue to be able to afford the lifestyle they've become accustomed to over the last 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 There are a lot of Republicans who really dislike Trump. Dislike him so much that they will say it publicly despite the likelihood of him being the standard bearer of their party. http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/christie-campaign-s-finance-co-chair-calls-donors-reject-trump-n527451 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I'm trying to figure out the strong African-American turnover in SC for Clinton. Don't see the appeal there. Granted I'm a East Coast Bullmoose style Progressive Jew..... And Sanders doesn't speak to me. So, what do i know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Alternate theory regarding high turnout in Repub primaries: Trump is really bringing in the white supremacist/Klan vote. Those folks don't normally vote, I would think. First his followers are racists post of the day lol. That didn't take long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 First his followers are racists post of the day lol. That didn't take long. Where there's smoke... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-endorsed-kkk-neo-nazis-america-white-article-1.2543847 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s0crates Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I'm trying to figure out the strong African-American turnover in SC for Clinton. Don't see the appeal there. It's a mystery to me too. Granted I'm a East Coast Bullmoose style Progressive Jew..... And Sanders doesn't speak to me. He doesn't? That surprises me because Bernie speaks a lot like Teddy did. http://observer.com/2016/01/bernie-sanders-channels-this-great-republican-president/ Bernie Sanders Channels This Great Republican President The Vermont Senator is not a socialist but a Bull Moose, the reformist party started by Theodore Roosevelt . . . Mr. Sanders has never suggested this, so at least Paul Sperry got it half right—Bernie Sanders is “not even a socialist.” Instead, he is the ideological progeny of one of our country’s greatest Republican presidents, Teddy Roosevelt, and his 1912 Progressive (Bull Moose) Party platform. . . . The party backed, among other policies: • Limits on campaign contributions • An eight-hour work day • A commission to regulate securities markets • A workers compensation program • A “national health service” • Passage of the 16th Amendment to allow for a federal income tax • Infrastructure through “the early construction of National highways;” • An estate tax . . . Anyway, if you don't mind my asking, I'm wondering if Bernie doesn't speak to a bull moose, then who does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Matt Walsh@MattWalshBlogAmazing. Trump refuses to condemn White Supremacy and the KKK. Says he has to research them first. What a scumbag. https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/703947678472777728/video/1 longer video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Where there's smoke... http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-endorsed-kkk-neo-nazis-america-white-article-1.2543847 Wow. That's a new topic in this thread lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 lol @ Trump trying to pretend he knows nothing about David Duke or any white supremacist organizations publicly supporting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Matt Walsh @MattWalshBlog Amazing. Trump refuses to condemn White Supremacy and the KKK. Says he has to research them first. What a scumbag. longer video WTF. OK, David Duke ran for president, and who the hell doesn't know what white supremacists are? Either he's lying or he is an uninformed idiot. Add: If this doesn't torpedo Trump what will? He doesn't know about the KKK? His opposition ads are already made for the general. God help us if this guy can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 WTF. OK, David Duke ran for president, and who the hell doesn't know what white supremacists are? Either he's lying or he is an uninformed idiot. he knows who is supporting him can't risk upsetting his base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 There is a large voting block disaffected and resentful that American policies over the past 20+ years don't work for them - going through Obama, Bush, Clinton. They have been stoked by the conservative right - but the political right always thought they could control it. His message is essentially, "Both parties are ripping you off, you are getting a raw deal." I dont buy it - but it is quite refreshing. How is Clinton going to take on a candidate running against free trade when her husband signed NAFTA?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 GOP voters say Rubio won the debate, but little movement away from Trump so far. https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/703956231094984704 Trump plans to release list of charities he has donated to instead of his tax records https://mobile.twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/703956529960112128 Rubio endorsed by Lamar Alexander https://mobile.twitter.com/politico/status/703958865507966976 Trump endorsed by Jean Marie Le Pen https://mobile.twitter.com/borzou/status/703958712130600960 WTF. OK, David Duke ran for president, and who the hell doesn't know what white supremacists are? Either he's lying or he is an uninformed idiot. I guess he forgot. LolHe seemed to know who he was in 2000. https://mobile.twitter.com/JGreenDC/status/703958603099537408 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 He seemed to know who he was in 2000. https://mobile.twitter.com/JGreenDC/status/703958603099537408 LOL wow reminds us of what Hillary does every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonniey Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Does Hillary have any chance to win it all? Huh?? Is this a joke? I mean seriously if Trump is the nominee the race is over and we'll know then that Hillary will be the next President of the United States. Trump won't only lose, he will lose big in a general election. Damn shame really as she is easily beatable by most of the other Republican candidates There are a lot of Republicans who really dislike Trump. Dislike him so much that they will say it publicly despite the likelihood of him being the standard bearer of their party. http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/christie-campaign-s-finance-co-chair-calls-donors-reject-trump-n527451 I'm one and I'll never vote for him. I won't stump for Hillary (I'll never vote for a Democrat)but will encourage my colleagues to write in whoever they supported in the primaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 LOL wow reminds us of what Hillary does every day. You know, it would probably give you much more free time if you just wrote a Python script that took a person's post and automatically responded with "Just like Hillary! lol!" instead of responding manually each time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 LOL wow reminds us of what Hillary does every day. You still believe Trump has crossover appeal? If this doesn't do him in in the primaries it is going to wreck the Republican party. "What is this KKK you speak of?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 LOL wow reminds us of what Hillary does every day. Sigh. One day you're all stoked for the "fireworks" and the next day you're all crampy and emo. Step your game up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 And "White Supremacist" is self defined, no investigation needed. edit: left out "is" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Sigh. One day you're all stoked for the "fireworks" and the next day you're all crampy and emo. Step your game up. Oh, I am stoked for the fireworks. This is gonna be a **** show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 And "White Supremacist" self defined, no investigation needed. Unlike Obama's birth certificate. Seriously, White Supremacy he gives the benefit of the doubt. Obama's birth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 You still believe Trump has crossover appeal? If this doesn't do him in in the primaries it is going to wreck the Republican party. "What is this KKK you speak of?" How could he not have crossover appeal....He is a Democrat supporter and embraces much of their policy all he needs to do is out promise Hillary (after all it is not like anyone believes her either, and the results lately rather suck to many) Maybe he will even use Hope and Change like the last liar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sacks 'n' Stuff Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Maybe he will even use Hope and Change like the last liarCan you expand on that a little? The liar part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFan44 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 How could he not have crossover appeal....He is a Democrat supporter and embraces much of their policy all he needs to do is out promise Hillary (after all it is not like anyone believes her either, and the results lately rather suck to many) Maybe he will even use Hope and Change like the last liar He is the standard bearer of the Republican Party. Only Republicans can change that. Also, this lie is beyond incredulity. He comes off like he's an idiot appearing on Jay Walking. "Civil War? Was that like, in the 1960s?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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