bowhunter Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I still don't see how/why the Browns weren't penalized for refusing to follow the referees command to get off the fumble pile. One ref was pulling a Brown who still wouldn't get off. We're very lucky that Garcon was able to keep control of that ball. That should be a 15 yard unsportsman like call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What Garcon did was fine. He does it after every catch... that was a stupid flag and the refs in that game were terrible anyways...1) that call was horrible 2) the Garcon catch that was reviewed was a horrible call 3) the pass intereference that wasn't called was horrible 4) the pass intereference that was called illegal contact was horrible This officiating crew was bad. So it wasn't just me seeing this.:whew: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martytheman Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 geez you guys gotta have SOMETHING to complain about don't you? Seriously?? Who flippin cares?? Apparently the pc police do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I like it because it hypes the team up. Did you all not see how aggressive the offense was out there yesterday. Especially Garcon and Trent, those dudes were animals yesterday. Trash talking is always going to be in the game. It was unfortunate that Garcon got that bs penalty yesterday, but it is what it is. GOOD teams with admired QB's don't do it (not saying RGIII not admired, just young)... Pats, I guess you never heard Tom Brady mic'd up before. Dude talks trash all game. And don't even get me started on Gronkowski But that is why I like them... Screw all this PC stuff. People are getting to soft nowadays. "Act like you been there before" aint nothing wrong with that, but this is an emotional game. You practice hours a week, aint nothing wrong with showing-off every now and then.... But never do it when it's ;late and you're losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 geez you guys gotta have SOMETHING to complain about don't you?Seriously?? Who flippin cares?? Apparently the pc police do! lol yeah there IS always something to ***** about. Do you think Pats fans had NO complaints when they ran the table in 2007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC9 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I guess you never heard Tom Brady mic'd up before. Dude talks trash all game. And don't even get me started on Gronkowski But that is why I like them... Screw all this PC stuff. People are getting to soft nowadays. "Act like you been there before" aint nothing wrong with that, but this is an emotional game. You practice hours a week, aint nothing wrong with showing-off every now and then.... But never do it when it's ;late and you're losing. I was going to say, MLS... didn't he almost have a fight with Bill O'Brien at FedEx last year after Josh Wilson picked him off? lol. He's also one of the bigger **** talkers in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIKKI8 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I hate the ball spinning and excessive celebrating that has been going on lately but I'm not going to complain because they are winning and are in first place. I think this team is going to be very, very good for a long time so hopefully they get it out of there system this year and in coming years they will be able to act like they have been there before and cut down on the after play antics. Even old pro's like London Fletcher is doing trash talking and pointing. Again, I don't really like it because I'm old school but I am glad to see some emotion out of the team and I guess they are just thrilled to be winning and I sure can't complain about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Why would anyone accept or admire behavior that could cost you the game. Taunting is bull**** and needs to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 So long as it stays within the rules, it's football man. It's a passion game, played by men knocking the living daylights out of each other. Hard to expect them not to be passionate and react to the opposition. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What Garcon did was fine. He does it after every catch... that was a stupid flag and the refs in that game were terrible anyways...1) that call was horrible 2) the Garcon catch that was reviewed was a horrible call 3) the pass intereference that wasn't called was horrible 4) the pass intereference that was called illegal contact was horrible This officiating crew was bad. That was the most lop-sided officiated game I have ever seen. And we won, that tells you how bad it was if I am still steamed about it. Add to that 2 shots to Cousins' head and 2 defensive holding penalties (including one in the end zone). I was literally screaming at the TV (and scared my wife and dogs). That being said, and back on topic, I have no problem with a little emotion. This game isn't golf -- it is played with emotion. It is a passionate game. Yes, Art Monk did not engage in it -- and he is revered for it. But Gary Clark sure did. There was the Fun Bunch -- which is a 15 yard penalty now. I like seeing passion and energy. I have no problem with what Garcon did -- it was a terrible call. However, don't be stupid, like Morgan against the Rams! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 GOOD teams with admired QB's don't do it (not saying RGIII not admired, just young)... Pats, Broncos.... I've always gone on the side of Art Monk, act like you have been there before, hand the ball to the ref. The fans cheer whether or not you spin the ball. I live in Charlotte, and people around here hate it when Newton does his little pointing for a first down like he just won the game in the first quarter. Where was all this ball spinning when they played the Steelers, when they dropped double digit passes? This. I know Santana has spun the ball since he's been in the pros. The Garcon spin should not have been a penalty. I think Shanny needs to just tell these guys to stop spinning the ball and let the other team get chippy. I'm not a fan of the ball spinning. Act like you've caught a pass before. There are other ways to get excited about a catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghouse4x4 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I don't think I have seen a worse officiated game in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Hate it. Garcon got the penalty for celebrating a freakin' first down. A first down...really? Go back to the huddle, you still got work to do! The old saying is tried and true: Act like you've been there and you'll be there all day. Yep. And for what it's worth, I don't care what players do once they reach the endzone. They can celebrate a TD any way they want, even if they look like an idiot. I've never been against endzone celebrations. Just the celebrations between the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The Garcon penalty was just horrible...not taunting at all Quite the opposite actually. Also Cousins took two blows to the head while in the pocket that did not get called. It is hard to imagine that the Ref's have it out for the Redskins or is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doghouse4x4 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Quite the opposite actually. Also Cousins took two blows to the head while in the pocket that did not get called. It is hard to imagine that the Ref's have it out for the Redskins or is it? I counted 4 late hits that weren't called. Completely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Plus, the reviewed no catch by Garcon. He had his hands under the ball. Call should have been reversed. Luckily we scored on that possession anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick7423 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 So long as the team keeps winning, who cares! I for one want the team to be brash and ****y, it means that they will not be intimidated or pushed around. This team is NO LONGER a door mat to other teams. Finally, we appear to be a team that other teams do not want to contend with. I say let the boys piss testosterone if they want as long as they play within the rules if they get flagged, so be it. I would rather have a team that is a little arrogant than a passive one. I hope some DHall, Piere Garcon attitude rubs off on the younger guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFLSkins Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 What Garcon did was fine. He does it after every catch... that was a stupid flag and the refs in that game were terrible anyways...1) that call was horrible 2) the Garcon catch that was reviewed was a horrible call 3) the pass intereference that wasn't called was horrible 4) the pass intereference that was called illegal contact was horrible This officiating crew was bad. If Tom Brady was back there the two hits to Cousins head would have drawn PF easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I think you're a ****wit if you celebrate a routine play. If it's that big a deal, let's stop the game and hand out a trophy for ****'s sake. Sheesh. Is there a category for best celebration of a pass completion for a first down? Maybe Monty should start celebrating each successful snap. <rolls eyes> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticVillain Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I was going to say, MLS... didn't he almost have a fight with Bill O'Brien at FedEx last year after Josh Wilson picked him off? lol. He's also one of the bigger **** talkers in the league. I forgot about that last year. Everybody thinks Brady is all cool or whatever, dude plays with passion. I was going to use Phillip Rivers as another example, but he is not having that good of a season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I'm fine with the attitude and not taking crap, having confidence and showing you won't back down and also having swagger so long as their play backs it up. But when it leads to a foolish act like what Morgan did vs. the Rams that crosses the line (though Morgan was being aggravated). Garcon's penalty was pretty ticky-tacky IMO. I found this yesterday LOL: Wide receiver Pierre Garcon, a Mount Union product who signed with the Redskins in the offseason after the Browns targeted him in free agency, had a team-high six catches and also recovered a fumble late in the game that could have given the Browns a chance to come back. He also trash talked with a couple of members of the Browns’ defense, particularly cornerback Joe Haden and linebacker D’Qwell Jackson.“[Garcon] talks too much,” Jackson said. “It’s like, ‘Who are you talking to?’ I’m too old. Hey, I used to do it when I was young. … You just always hear him. He’s fiery, I get it. But I’m not that guy. … I don’t have time for that. Line up at running back, then you can talk to me.” Haden downplayed the trash talking, which included a 15-yard taunting penalty on Garcon. “I wasn’t really worried about Garcon,” Haden said. “I mean, I did my thing against him. … But Garcon is a really good receiver and I don’t want to take anything away from him.” Garcon finished with 65 receiving yards. “It was just football,” Garcon told reporters after the game. “Those guys [Jackson and Haden] love playing football. They’re passionate about it. They’re the cornerstones of the defense, so they have to bring their emotion. I have to bring my emotions.” http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns-notebook-rookie-rb-trent-richardson-questions-play-calling-1.358348 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Eh, I'm old fashioned, I don't like seeing it. Make a play, get back in the huddle. Save the celebrating for getting in the end zone, not for a first down. The OP is flawed by the way, revisionist history that occurs on this board. Josh Morgan didn't cost us the Rams game, he cost us a better chance at it. Still would have been a 47 yarder with Billy Cundiff kicking, far from a guarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonArtest15 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Emotions are running high. If you've played any level of competitive sport, you'd know it happens. I have no issue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I found this yesterday LOL:http://www.ohio.com/sports/browns/browns-notebook-rookie-rb-trent-richardson-questions-play-calling-1.358348 That line from Haden is laughable. He did his thing: A big uncalled PI, 2 uncalled holdings. And Garcon still had 6 catches on you. Oh yeah, don't forget the blatant uncalled taunting, standing over Morgan after a big hit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santana_4_prez Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 How can you not admire 88 for his enthusiasm? Dude gives it 110% every play. I'm glad to see somebody with fire. He has recovered at least 2 key fumbles this year because he puts his heart and soul in it. He's a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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