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Here is what left leaning Chuck Todd said about the voting machines: "The voting machine conspiracies belong in same category as the Trump birther garbage."

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9651

It apparently does not concern the Obama campaign or they would have made a stink about it. But the whole cozy relationship between a voting machine company and a candidate will not give the opposition's supporters a warm and fuzzy feeling.

Edit: I think it would be reasonable to ask political candidates to refrain from investing in voting machine companies and members of the boards of those companies to refrain from making donations to candidates involved in elections the machines will be used in. And I am not a conspiracy theorist on this, it is just makes sense to maintain an air of impartiality to reassure the public.

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Oh come ON! Cut the man some slack. He's just trying to increase efficiency by having the voting machines pre-set to a 60/40 RMoney victory. That way nobody has to worry about missing time from work with unproductive voting time. So see, his primary concern is the country, not his desire to be POTUS.

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What has also been made public are the emails those employers have sent to their employees with an implied threat that if they don't vote for Romney they may lose their jobs.

Could someone please tell me how an employer could know how an employee had voted?

Or does "threat" mean the bad economical landscape consequences that the other candidate might bring toward said company if elected?

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Nice work here... Just in case Obama loses because he has been lying and doing nothing for 4 years, there has to be an excuse for the loss... It's pretty weak but the left will cling to it.

Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. The democrats don't seem to have a problem admitting defeat. Just look at the reaction to the first debate. Democrats everywhere agreed that Obama stunk and was soundly beaten by Romney. What happens when Romney looses? "He was interrupted too much by a biased moderator". If anyone looks for excuses, its the republicans.

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Well isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. The democrats don't seem to have a problem admitting defeat. Just look at the reaction to the first debate. Democrats everywhere agreed that Obama stunk and was soundly beaten by Romney. What happens when Romney looses? "He was interrupted too much by a biased moderator". If anyone looks for excuses, its the republicans.

Bingo. Glad to see Obama pretty much dominate the last 2 debates though.

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In every debate, he has that face of a liar. You know, the kind of guy that will spew out what he thinks the lemmings want to hear. He'll do and say anything to get in office. You know, with his 5, 7, 3, 12, 10 point plans. He looks like the type that will get in office and the first day he sits on the oval office chair, you hear, "Mwuhahahahaha." He is so deceitful looking its not funny. He has the face of a liar. I don't trust him.

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In every debate, he has that face of a liar. You know, the kind of guy that will spew out what he thinks the lemmings want to hear. He'll do and say anything to get in office. You know, with his 5, 7, 3, 12, 10 point plans. He looks like the type that will get in office and the first day he sits on the oval office chair, you hear, "Mwuhahahahaha." He is so deceitful looking its not funny. He has the face of a liar. I don't trust him.

On Twitter, funniest thing ever I saw yesterday.

Mitt Romney's 5 Point Plan

1) To the left

2) Take it back now ya'll

3) Right foot, let's stomp

4) Left foot, let's stomp

5) Cha-Cha now ya'll

hahaha

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Is there a more reliable source for the claims made in the OP? The article wants you to draw the conclusion that Romney controls this company, but the factual connections are kept vague. What does "major investors?" mean?

I have developed a fine sense of radar for deliberately biased, misleading or incomplete stories from partisan stories, and this sets my radar off just as much as an article from the Daily Caller or NewsMax.

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/tagg-romney-not-investor-voting-machine-company_657183.html

Tagg Romney Is Not an 'Investor In a Voting Machine Company'

Solamere Capital, an investment fund founded and run by Tagg Romney, is a financial partner with HIG Capital, a private equity firm that manages a whole range of investments. HIG also invests in Hart Intercivic, a polling machine company that operates machines at polling places in Hamilton County, Ohio. But Solamere does not have any financial interest in Hart, a spokesman for Solamere tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD.

A recent article in the Nation about Solamere claims that the fund indirectly invests in Hart, and a report from MSNBC repeats this implication:

H.I.G. Capital, a large investment fund, is a 'significant investor' in Hart Intercivic, according to an announcement put out last year by Hart. And H.I.G., in turn, is one of the largest partners, with nearly $10 billion of equity capital, of Solamere Capital, the investment fund founded and run by Tagg Romney (pictured), Mitt’s eldest son, The Nation recently reported*.

The MSNBC article also quotes former top elections official from Ohio, Democrat Jennifer Brunner, saying that it “doesn’t look good for a presidential candidate’s son to be an investor in a voting machine company.”

But the Solamere spokesman says that is “totally wrong.”

“Not only does Solamere have no direct or indirect interest in this company [Hart Intercivic], Solamere and its partners have no ownership in this company, nor do they have any ownership in nor have made any investments in the fund that invested in the voting machine company,” the spokesman said.

So while Solamere does partner with HIG on investments, none of those investments involve Hart Intercivic. HIG may be simultaneously managing investments with both companies, but the investments are kept separate, as required by law. Put simply, Tagg Romney is not an “investor in a voting machine company.”

As even the liberal Think Progress points out, some left-wing blogs have floated the idea that Hart’s machines in Ohio might be tampered with to benefit Mitt Romney in the presidential election. But, Think Progress notes, there’s “absolutely no evidence” of any plans to tamper with those machines.

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This ranks right up there with the Obama birth certificate conspiracy theory on my "ridiculous" scale.

---------- Post added October-23rd-2012 at 12:24 PM ----------

I have developed a fine sense of radar for deliberately biased, misleading or incomplete stories from partisan stories, and this sets my radar off just as much as an article from the Daily Caller or NewsMax.

A little discernment gets one far in life :ols:

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Interesting. I just reviewed every post (they're up to #42 as of this writing). And for the couple of posters who seem to be imply otherwise, out of 42 posts there are a total of 6 seemingly bothered to some degree by the idea. That's 6. There is a seventh making a joke about it that could be taken as #7.

So some folks should maybe take a moment to check their own bias-blinders for too tight a fit. Most non-firmly-right folk here dismissed it to one degree or another.

Most dedicated partisans I observe (and denial of being one is no real refuge) don't just suck, they often blow immense chucks.

Sadass weak **** is their norm.

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Interesting. I just reviewed every post (they're up to #42 as of this writing). And for the couple of posters who seem to be imply otherwise, out of 42 posts there are a total of 6 seemingly bothered to some degree by the idea. That's 6. There is a seventh making a joke about it that could be taken as #7.

So some folks should maybe take a moment to check their own bias-blinders for too tight a fit. Most non-firmly-right folk here dismissed it to one degree or another.

Most dedicated partisans I observe (and denial of being one is no real refuge) don't just suck, they often blow immense chucks.

Sadass weak **** is their norm.

I'm not sure who's butt got charred with that post. Hope it wasn't mine. :paranoid:

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So happy I just saw that.

With the way this thread was going, I was going to post the Radar-Online (NON)story about Obama's alleged drug use/dealing - to show a point that crappy web-sites that rely on traffic to their sites will print almost anything to get folks to go there. Don't want to be a "Sadass weak ****" as my 'norm'.

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So happy I just saw that.

With the way this thread was going, I was going to post the Radar-Online (NON)story about Obama's alleged drug use/dealing - to show a point that crappy web-sites that rely on traffic to their sites will print almost anything to get folks to go there. Don't want to be a "Sadass weak ****" as my 'norm'.

Then learn to drop sadass **** like your self-immolating last sentence, especially since the un-specific comment you're quoting didn't even need to apply to you unless you make it so.

So since you did, and since your line of "the way the thread was going" does speak directly to the odd skewing of how the thread ACTUALLY was going, i will repeat my recently stated take that you have indeed deteriorated in that regard. You had been doing better, since you were once frequently "that way" (the more "energetic" partisan), and then it's like you regressed. Just my observation, fiwiw.

Now on to a more definitive matter, With six previous rule violations from three moderators, including multiple bans, there is little reason why we should put up with ANY form of nonsense from you, even if it's just a chip on your shoulder like the snark in your last sentence. You're out of rope.

<attn: no posters were harmed in the making of this post>

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Then learn to drop sadass **** like your self-immolating last sentence, especially since the un-specific comment you're quoting didn't even need to apply to you unless you make it so.

So since you did, and since your line of "the way the thread was going" does speak directly to the odd skewing of how the thread ACTUALLY was going, i will repeat my recently stated take that you have indeed deteriorated in that regard. You had been doing better, since you were once frequently "that way" (the more "energetic" partisan), and then it's like you regressed. Just my observation, fiwiw.

Now on to a more definitive matter, With six previous rule violations from three moderators, including multiple bans, there is little reason why we should put up with ANY form of nonsense from you, even if it's just a chip on your shoulder like the snark in your last sentence. You're out of rope.

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I apologize if my post came of the way that you see it. That was not my intent. I only quoted you original message in what I thought was a positive, but funny, way. I guess it didn't come across the way that I intended. Sometimes typing doesn't convey the tone of the message.

While we can disagree with the tone of this thread, I certainly didn't mean to push the overall discourse in a more negative way. (In a note to the MOD, you will notice that I've stayed away from political threads for at least 6 months).

Again, I didn't mean to bring the forum 'down' and will be more careful in the future to try to get my overall meaning into my posts.

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I apologize if my post came of the way that you see it. That was not my intent. I only quoted you original message in what I thought was a positive, but funny, way. I guess it didn't come across the way that I intended. Sometimes typing doesn't convey the tone of the message.

While we can disagree with the tone of this thread, I certainly didn't mean to push the overall discourse in a more negative way. (In a note to the MOD, you will notice that I've stayed away from political threads for at least 6 months).

Again, I didn't mean to bring the forum 'down' and will be more careful in the future to try to get my overall meaning into my posts.

I hear ya on tone, and sometimes we get typecast from past events when it's not deserved.

If I did such unfairly to you, as it seems here, I am the one to apologize. And I do.

Further, and just in general, I have no personal desire or interest for people to avoid topics or "be" ways they are not naturally, other than if it's the only way they can manage actual rule-related behaviors.

I do, as does any member, have the freedom to voice my opinion and judgement as to posting content and style. And I do so choosing to always remain with the rules, even if I do so harshly when I feel it's merited.

I am always being honest in what I say, right or wrong in anyone else's opinion, and no matter what I say, I strive to make it an objective and accurate analysis, whether harsh or flattering.

I hold such thoughts back far more often than I share them.

And when I do in such cases, it's with what I regard as the best interest of the forum in mind, and not connected to any specific topic-related position of my own.

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