PD93 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 First off I would like to say hello to everybody. I see that the Peyton Manning hit was a topic of discussion on here. It's kinda of funny to me that Dungy would come 5 years later and say that hit started his neck problems. Notice that the refs never flagged that play and saw it as Peyton getting caught in a bad position. If you notice in the play, Andre is pulling him by the waist toward the line of scrimmage and I am going away from the line of scrimmage. Because of Andre pulling on him he fell to his knees causing my arm to slip higher to his neck area. Initially I thought he was trying to slip my tackle not knowing Andre was involved. I was fined 5000 for this hit and I appealed it because the refs saw what happened and that's the reason there was no flag. Sometimes QB's have to know the end of the road and not try to complete a miraculous pass. After my weight was distributed forward, there was no stopping it from going in that direction. I really feel like the only reason I was fined was because of who the QB was. My appeal was even heard by a former defensive coordinator who should have understood that Peyton only got caught in a bad position. Actually I could have held on longer but realized that something wasn't right so I let go and that's when his helmet popped off. I'm pretty sure that he has taken a lot of hits since 2006 so who knows when his neck actually got hurt. He has thrown for thousands of yards since then and he killed us the 2nd half of that game. I saw him at the pro bowl a couple years ago and I asked if he thought I was being dirty when that hit happened. He said NO and that he was caught in a bad situation. Then I told him I got fined for that hit and he acted like he knew nothing about it and acted surprised about me being fined. The only reason I was fined was because he made a statement after the game saying "The guy wouldn't let go of my freaking head." I really believe that is why the league fined me. Never was a nasty player and I certainly wasn't being nasty on that play. Peyton is a good dude and I hope he ends up ok and comes back because he is good for the league. If that play hurt his neck then I apologize but if that play happened the same way 1000 times, it would still be the same result. I guess now I will be know as the player who hurt Manning's neck 5 years later. Lol. It's football and a lot of other people have gotten hurt who last name isn't Manning so it's a dead issue. Just setting the record straight and thank all of you for the support. Go Skins!!!!!! HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEREALTOR1 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Good seeing you back on here PD. Glad you came back to let everyone know your side of the story. Hail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSexCannon Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Whats up PD!? I hope everything's going good with you! We miss you man! HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Dog Night Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Nice analysis PD, always interesting to see the other side of things. I don't think ANYONE thinks you are a dirty player - far from it. Seems like everyone gets fined at some point if you're a defensive player. Just the nature of the position you guys are in. You never see quarterbacks getting fined for hitting anyone! And it all comes down to money IMO. Fans want to see the ball in the air - nothing generates excitement as much as a dynamic passing game. That's the cash cow for the league right now, and it's been that way for a while. The NFL is going to protect their investment by fining you guys when do the very thing you've been taught and paid to do. You hit a running back like that and no fine. You hit Brady or Manning, better get your checkbook out! Seems mighty hypocritical sometimes, but oh well. Thanks for stopping by, as always. Don't be a stranger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Phil glad to see you back. I saw your tweet about this and posted it on here. You're the last one I'd assume to be a "dirty player", and wish nothing but the best for you. BTW I was hoping they'd give you another look when JJ went down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the burgundy and gold Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Good to see you're still around Phil. I don't think any skins fan would ever consider you to be a dirty player or anything even close to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 And even if you were dirty player you would be the cleanest dirty player in Redskin fans' eyes.:ols:does that make sense? -- serious note- Great to have you back here. Maybe one day we'll see you on our sideline again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLEED-B&G Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Phil you have nothing you need to explain to anybody my man. You were a class act on and off the field, if anyone claims it was ill will or a bad play didn't follow the skins and doesn't know football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamecokskins703 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 i think its tough to say that ONE hit caused the entire injury to peyton that has the potential to end his career. Because frankly, he's been hit who knows how many times, and any one of those hits could have contributed to the problem. I wouldnt sweat it PD, its just football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkFan8 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 If Peyton said it wasn't dirty I'd assume that should be enough to quench any media speculation. Certainly 'Skins fans know you treated the game with the utmost respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goingforburgundy Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Pd you were a dirty player. A dirty good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonOfWashington Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 PD you're all good with us man. We'd love to get some of your input on our team this season too at some point. ---------- Post added September-15th-2011 at 12:10 AM ---------- Found an article on this: http://larrybrownsports.com/football/tony-dungy-believes-peyton-mannings-neck-injury-traces-back-to-2006-hit/86770 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Dave Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 PD your a class act on and off the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Thanks for sharing, as always there are 2 sides to every coin, glad to see yours remains untarnished. Phil, do you have any advice for a first year in tackle football, 8-year old who is having some challenges learning to play D-line? LIke how to NOT get held up by O-linemen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Trust us Phil, there isn't a person on this board or in Skins Nation who has thought of you as a dirty player. Not once. Ever. Anyway, curious of your takeaway from Skins opening day. What were you most pleasantly surprised about? What are you curious to see/follow going forward? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RansomthePasserby Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 The only reason I was fined was because he made a statement after the game saying "The guy wouldn't let go of my freaking head." I really believe that is why the league fined me. Never was a nasty player and I certainly wasn't being nasty on that play. He might have let his emotions mess with his thought process when making that statement. I imagine it hurt at the time, and he knew there was something wrong with his neck. At the time, that probably annoyed him enough to think you were been playing dirty, even though you weren't. Sometimes when something goes wrong, people look for someone to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 I remember the thread on it back in '06, and pretty much everyone agreed that it wasn't intentional and that the fine was ridiculous back then too. You don't have a history of playing dirty PD, so it's hard to imagine such was the case back then. While I couldn't find a video clip of the hit, from the pictures you can see what you say, that Carter is low (on the ground in fact) while you are up top and unable to see Carter, and you can see at that point Carter is pulling Manning down so that his head goes further into your arm's grasp. That's probably also why Manning initially commented that you wouldn't let go of his helmet, but then later, after watching the game film, knew it was simply a case of him being in a bad spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles mannley Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Honestly PD I think Sean Suisham was a dirtier player than you. awesome to hear from you. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 PD, Please do come around these parts more often! We all value your incredible insight. That said, don't fret over the Peyton thing. Football is a physical game, and sometimes guys get hurt. That play was 5 years ago! Most of us like Peyton as a player (thankfully he's in the AFC though), but I don't think anyone would ever let a hindsight view of that play affect their opinion of you. Thanks so much, Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COWBOY-KILLA- Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 What up Phil? Good to hear from you. Don't sweat that stuff with PM, Life Happens! You like what you see with the skins? Hope all is well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 You should have seen the game day thread when that play happened. We all loved it. There was nothing dirty about that play. The league should just put flags on the QB's. Now they are calling roughing penalties for hits that happen as the QB is releasing the ball and the defender is in the air. It's completely ridiculous. I'm sure that they don't even care about what they see when they watch the replay and just fine the players anyway. The Cam Newton Int called back by a roughing call on Sunday, for instance. What a joke. Anyway, NOBODY has any reason to believe than any of Peyton's pain is your fault. The dude gets paid 100's of Millions of dollars to stand back there and get flags thrown when anybody breathes on him too hard. He'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Phillip, No need to feel guilt or explain though it's appreciated. We all have been a part of an accident in one form or another. The intent was not maliscious and you have no history of going out and injuring players. You are certainly not a dirty player nor was it a dirty play. Unfortunately, you are part of a game in which the laws of physics impact. Now, was that the hit that started problems for Peyton... who knows, but you were not responsible for the injury except to the extent that you were doing your job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankez99 Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Hey Phil! Awesome to hear from you. Sending you positive vibes all the way from Kandahar Afghanistan for your continued Redskins fan interactions; shines very positive upon you. :helmet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins2victory Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 Much love PD...... We all know your not a dirty player....... By the way, thanks for all the hard work, thanks for being a class act, thanks for being a good redskin!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonoman Posted September 15, 2011 Share Posted September 15, 2011 You are a class act.Always welcomed here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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