Hiro Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 We're obviously not watching the same player. He's a young guy who is learning a new position (4-3 OLB =/= 3-4 OLB) and he constantly forces holding calls. Constantly. We tend to forget that Orakpo, while one of our best players, is only in his SECOND season. SECOND season. As he learns more moves, he'll get even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanboyOf91 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Swimmoves don't work on chokeholds. (Rape Defense 101) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck812 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I think hes a probowl RDE in a 4/3 and just a good but not great OLB in 3/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iXiBrianiXi Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 The problem is he's terrible at block shedding. He forces them back but he won't get sacks till he can shed the blocks. He's got plenty of moves. He's got great hands. His issue is they're still DE moves, he hasn't mastered Line Backer moves. The DE is gonna be lower and have better leverage to use those moves. His speed rushing is great as that's how most LB's are gonna rush, but he needs to work on his technique from the OLB spot. I love the man but he's getting held while lesser OLB's get around/through them. Until he can shed blockers he won't be getting the sacks and just force the holds. It's not hurting lesser OLB's like it is him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Orakpo is really the one guy on this defense that I do NOT have any concerns about. Instead of watching the ball and the QB, next time watch the opposing LT and LG double and hold Orakpo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubstix Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 It would be great if people who claim are fans of the Redskins watch the game every once in awhile before a thread gets started like this. I saw Orakpo and Haynesworth held just about every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 he gets held SO much....sometimes the 10 yard holding penalty > sack Part of the reason for that is he's not good with his hands. Blockers are able to get hands on him and while it draws a few holding calls, he gets held and it gets missed, too. A lot of these holding calls would be sacks if he could learn to use his hands to fend off contact and keep clean. He's struggling to beat 1 on 1 blocks right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Levi Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 WTF? Orakpo is great. In case you didn't notice, I think he brought in another 2 holding penalties this game. That's as good as a sack. If they want to keep holding him, that's fine if you ask me. Orakpo is having a good season. The problem is he doesn't have much help - Haynesworth is still useless and don't see anyone else bringing pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassin 21 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Yea anyone that says Orakpo isnt doing his job is blind. He is getting held every play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitStickTaylor21 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 sure he will get a sack every other 3 games, but they are meaningless sacks and not at crucial points in the game and he doesn't make game impacting plays. Not crucial like winning the Cowboys game for us in week 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I think hes a probowl RDE in a 4/3 and just a good but not great OLB in 3/4 he was a pro bowl outside linebacker in a 4-3. the position he's in now is better on an every down basis then what he did last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 ok guys i understand thathe is held a lot. but elite pass rushers find a way to get sacks even when being held. you think freeny, peppers, ware, matthews etc aren't being held every play also? Which he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theivorhick Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 wow, dude. do you even WATCH the games?? orakpo is held ALL THE TIME. when he's held, he's so close to sacking the qb's, it's almost a certainty. kinda hard to get a sack when ur being choked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins3000 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 come on people the man is being held Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brave Little Toaster Oven Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I guess you missed the fact he was being held on every play and still was generating pressure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darc Requiem Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Is this a joke topic? It would be one thing if he was getting handled in 1 on 1 situations. He's beating his man. His man is holding him and the refs aren't calling it. It was crazy how much Jason Peter was holding Rak today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x96bryan10 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I seriously want to know who has had more holding penaties called on them this year than orakpo if you can find any player id be amazed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman21ST Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 He forced 2 holding calls today. Nuff said. Isn't that at least 5 on him so far? How many pass rushers can say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald362 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 If the refs called even half of the holds committed against him, we wouldnt be worried about the opposing passing game. It wouldnt exist Huh? The guy is a very good pass rusher. I bet the refs only call half of the holding calls on him. He mostly needs improvement on taking the right pursuit angles, which will help him make better tackles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btubes18 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 i don't awant to be mr doom and gloom after a W, but Orakpo hasn't impressed me at all this season and he was 1 on 1 vs Peters all day and not once did he generate pressure. For all the hype he gets he sure doesn't make very many impact plays. If it wasn' for that 4 sack game against the Raiders last year i think more poeple would realize how non impressive he actually is.sure he will get a sack every other 3 games, but they are meaningless sacks and not at crucial points in the game and he doesn't make game impacting plays. Also he is terrible in space. pretty sad that Kevin Kolb can outrun him with ease. I just don't understand the hype this guy gets when he isn't that good of player. he is a pure pass rusher and he isn't even good at doing that that on a consistent basis. again, 1 on 1 all game and not a single sack or even pressure on Kolb. yes he was held twice but great pass rushers get sacks and pressure even when held. Do you actually watch the games? This is the worst analysis I have seen on a player in a long time on the boards. Do you not understand, how many holding penalties are committed on him each game? Other teams D's know what Orakpo is about....Watch the games, the guy is a stud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuratl1984 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 OP need to re-watch games...i usually count 3-4 holds that I notice that does not get called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btubes18 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 OP need to re-watch games...i usually count 3-4 holds that I notice that does not get called. Not to mention other teams usually respect at least two blockers to him, when he rushes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 He's the LEAST of our worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spear Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 A holding penalty is not as good as a sack. You're giving the offense an extra down to convert and we've been terrible at getting off the field this year. Orakpo gets held, because he can't beat guys cleanly. Any O-lineman in the league is going to take a holding penalty over a sack. The prolific passrushers don't give them the opportunity to hold. Right now, he's like the defensive version of the WR who draws a lot of PI fouls, but can't actually catch the ball. Constantly looking for flags at the end of a play will only get you so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 OP need to re-watch games...i usually count 3-4 holds that I notice that does not get called. And you see a whole lot more when you go to the games. It is no exaggeration when people are saying he gets held on nearly every play... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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