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no problem. but when both sides lie about the issue: http://factcheck.org/2012/06/romney-obama-uphold-health-care-falsehoods/ (a great website by the way) then the people are left to their own devices and those that speak the loudest. and not to get too into SS, but they sent me a letter saying that i shouldn't plan on getting even 75% of the money i put into SS back and that's if everything stabilized. it was not a happy statement to say the least. the one interesting point about the "buy or be taxed" is that there is no enforcement (or so i read somewhere). the only thing the IRS can do to actually enforce this tax is withhold any return money you may get, but they cannot enforce it with liens or anything like that. i'll try to look for the article. edit; here you go:

as a side note to the thread since no one wants to answer any of points in the quote and would rather attack the (admittidly easy to attack) speaker, i have actually shot and missed a deer 4 consecutive times and hit it on the 5th. it was my first deer and i was so amped up i didn't notice that i had flipped my iron sites down. it wandered around while i was shooting at it and at one point it stood directly under my tree stand and looked up at me.

anyone want to tackle trump's rant: besides the fact that he is a fan of broader healthcare (from his book in 2000), how about someone break down his little rant. where's yusurf when i need him?!

sorry i was off for a few days and this is a big matza ball to leave hanging. this bill enforces (doesn't create) an article that says the government may tax us for anything it deems best for the people. this case will be used in the future for other laws like excess taxes on sugar/alcohol/tobacco etc. because if they say now that health care is an unacceptable cost, they will (and states already have) say that other things represent an unacceptable cost as well so the taxpayers will have to pay more and with the way our government works they could tax us 100% and ban everything and still wind up broke. my post was saying that no matter who is president next year or anytime in the future we will continue to be run more and more like the government we tried to escape from to begin with. the issue with the people who cheer at things is everything is hunkey dorey until it affects you personally, if it doesn't and you believe (or are led to believe) that it helps other people then why the hell not. if it's an issue you already have preconceived biased opinions about then double good. guns are easily a polarizing issue (sweeping generalizations to follow). people who have them enjoy having them and would like to keep them and have the ability to legally obtain more. people who don't have them see no need for them and could care less if they were banned. looking at an issue like what kind of guns you're allowed to buy can lead the non-gun side to think that the gun side is a bunch of nutbags who want to shoot up a post office. pot is another polarizing issue (ditto). people who smoke pot say there's absolutely nothing wrong with it and most of the time treat it as if it weren't illegal. non-pot smokers say that it is illegal and you shouldn't be doing it because of it's illegality and they should crack down harder on it. looking at this issue, smokers say pot laws are unfair and they're not hurting anyone, while non-smokers say you should shut your hippy ass up and cut your damn hair. so only when an issue applies to you or you have strong feelings about it do you actually notice the agenda against it, or claim that there is one. i mean how many NFL fans shed a tear when goodell took our cap space? they all said who cares, that's what they get, look we get some extra cap money, goodell is great. then the bounty programs same deal. only the affected fans really cared enough to display outrage, while the other teams' fan's were pacified with cap money or the weakening of a possible opponent. and for the usurping of power: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reorganization_Act_of_1939 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veto#United_States http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland_security http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_Security_Administration etc. some of those are old, and some more recent, but they all gave the executive branch and/or federal government more power and they all affect us today. it's not hyperbole, it's the truth. people applauded the new deal, but how many people now decry social security? patriot act was looked at as a way to stop 9/11 from ever happening again and now it's the ultimate spy weapon for our government. as long as we get one bust every few months the TSA is just a safety net, not an overbearing big brother. i hope i avoided vague slogans, but this is just going to continue. remember how crazy and paranoid you would have sounded 15 years ago if you said that you would have to have a full body scan to get on an airplane? everyone is a conspiracy theorist or nut until it comes true, but by then there's a dangling carrot to distract people who don't want to look hard enough.

now we all know we should never judge a book by it's cover, but when i see a damn dirty hipster pic next to the profile saying i'm moving to canada i'm going to assume it's tongue-in-cheek. splash some camo in there and they most definitely believe it. and to asbury: did you read the majority opinion? it's not like the man was cheerleading, he just took an unbiased stance that says if this is deemed a tax then it's legal. (obviously the "it's not a tax" proclamation holds no weight in this, strictly law cut and dry.) like i said, i worry about the power we constantly hand over on what seems like a yearly basis. obama or romney next year won't make a difference, we'll be giving up something else in the name of freedom, safety, equality, welfare of the people, etc. all the while we move away from our checks and balances system.

well looks like we'll be tuning into limbaugh on the coast from now on. it's not that big of deal, it just looked like one of those urban legends of the twitter-age. anywho, my stance on all of this is yet again the president has gained more power and yet again the masses see it as a good thing. edit: nevermind, someone posted this handy link http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/people-moving-to-canada-because-of-obamacare to be fair a lot of these don't look like stupid people, rather people trolling for attention or making jokes.

has anyone actually seen someone say that they're moving to canada because of this. that's all i saw on twitter and facebook today. i never actually saw a reference to someone saying they're moving to canada because of this, just people saying "haha, stupid conservatives wanting to move to canada"

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008091407/2008/REG2/saints@redskins#tab=recap wasn't this the game when it was absolutely scorching outside? but here are the redskins comfortable in their white on white while the saints had to wear those black unis and had to be burning up. this was a good game regardless though and i recommend you watch the highlights.

press one looks a little different

i like the matte helmets if they are matte.

your florida state redskins!

that toddler is going to have to work on his footwork and balance if he wants to see the field.

i hope they don't show it on the TV because this guy can't get the focus right.

i had that a little while ago. iirc that has a little punch to it as well.

i'm excited for these "no holding" collars. maybe orakpo won't have to expand his repertoire after all.