NavyDave Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 I see it the other way around. The USA was blessed to have me born here and Judeo Christian principles enhanced by me embracing them. Because a hick(and his sister/wife or GF/Mom) where they burn couches after a football victory and a Communist or Socialist in Europe or Asia will be turned away at Club Pearly Gates is no reason to hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Because a hick(and his sister/wife or GF/Mom) where they burn couches after a football victory and a Communist or Socialist in Europe or Asia will be turned away at Club Pearly Gates is no reason to hate. :laugh: Thats not very christian of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 :laugh: Thats not very christian of you. Not all Christians are the same. He's the smiting, rather than the "judge not lest ye be judged", kind :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 I see it the other way around.The USA was blessed to have me born here and Judeo Christian principles enhanced by me embracing them. Because a hick(and his sister/wife or GF/Mom) where they burn couches after a football victory and a Communist or Socialist in Europe or Asia will be turned away at Club Pearly Gates is no reason to hate. You see most things the other way around. And your views are a complete joke. BTW, you are no Christian. You suck the blood of the ignorant who share your racist, seal clubbing views. Z-guy and tech sadly seem to be the only believers who have their head on their shoulders. And thank god for them. BTW, nice hit and run, making fun of priets and lumping them iwith NAMBLA. I found a shirt for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Buddhism is really the best one. No one declares war in the name of inner peace. Yet those guys in Tibet seem to be sort of riled up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionOfDoom Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Giant misconception on the "only believe in me idea for entry to heaven" That is a way for churches to scare the people into believing and getting thier money. God would not punish a person for being born on a distant remote island that never new a thing about Jesus. Would you want to have a God that would punish you for that? I know I don't. For the last 2000 years the church and rulers of kingdoms have twisted the real message about God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASkins540 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Yet those guys in Tibet seem to be sort of riled up The situation in Tibet concerns politics, not religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Buddhism is really the best one. No one declares war in the name of inner peace.My inner peace is more peaceful than your inner peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 Giant misconception on the "only believe in me idea for entry to heaven"That is a way for churches to scare the people into believing and getting thier money. God would not punish a person for being born on a distant remote island that never new a thing about Jesus. Would you want to have a God that would punish you for that? I know I don't. For the last 2000 years the church and rulers of kingdoms have twisted the real message about God. :applause::applause::applause: And what kind of God would kill your 1st born son? Sounds more like something Satan would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 The situation in Tibet concerns politics, not religion. If one stictly adheres to their faith and had inner peace then politics should not bother them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Your religion is nothing more than luck and geography Kinda like your choice of favorite football team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 Kinda like your choice of favorite football team? Yea, I guess so. And cowboy fans living in the beltway would be like scientologist living Utah:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunBunch7 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 When referring to Jesus Christ, there are ONLY 2 possible TRUTHS... Either he was the biggest liar of ALL TIME...a complete fraud... OR He IS who he said he was...the Son of God. There ABSOLUTELY is NO MIDDLE GROUND Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techboy Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Giant misconception on the "only believe in me idea for entry to heaven"That is a way for churches to scare the people into believing and getting thier money. God would not punish a person for being born on a distant remote island that never new a thing about Jesus. Would you want to have a God that would punish you for that? I know I don't. For the last 2000 years the church and rulers of kingdoms have twisted the real message about God. Unfortunately, your argument fails to hold water historically. It might make sense starting around the 4th Century, when Constantine wedded Church and State. For the first 300 years or so, however, Christianity was illegal in the Roman Empire. The only thing being a Christian got you was ridicule, persecution, torture, misery, and possibly death, either by execution or lynch mob. Look at what Josephus records as the fate of James, brother of Jesus and leader of the early Church in Jerusalem. Money and power just didn't come into play. In fact, it was just the opposite. And, since the exclusivistic message of Jesus as presented by Christianity (and found in the texts of the New Testament) dates back to the First century, not the fourth, the conclusion is inescapble that this was not a later addition by powerhungry rulers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamyesme1111 Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 This is why I'm not religious. I mean I'm not an atheist but I am more of an agnostic. There are so many religions out there and you can't choose what you grow up as. Other children in other countries get born as another religion so are they damned to hell just because they don't believe in the christian god? Is my cousin damned to hell because he's gay and am I damned to hell because I am not sure what to believe? If the christian god would really damn me to hell just because I don't worship him because of these reasons, then I have no respect for a god who would do that. I'm not a dis-believer...I think there very well might be a higher power, I just don't know what to believe, and I wasn't grown up believing so now that I am old enough to think for myself I don't know what to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooka Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 The quest for Buddhism is to get rid of all desire. Isn't that a desire, though? Yes and no. The desires we need to get rid of that cause suffering, which can be desires for physical things and things like a beliefs or ideas, are due to our own ignorance from living in illusions. Choosing to end these desires would not be the same type of desire, it would not be ignorant but a search for the true nature of being. Also, how does one know when nirvana is reached, since the Buddha never said what it was like before he died? Well it depends on what of Buddhism we're talking about, but Nirvana is described in all Buddhism and Hinduism. Besides reaching a state of complete transcendence, free from all attachments, you're also a deathless being that's one with the Universe. Its like the difference between an ice cube by itself, and throwing that ice cube into an ocean. And nah, drugs won't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VASkins540 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 If one stictly adheres to their faith and had inner peace then politics should not bother them Buddhists cannot achieve inner peace until they're free from, among other things, all forms of pain and suffering. I'm sure many Tibetan Buddhists would contend that China's occupation of their region is interfering with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 I could have very well been born in the Middle East and therefore I would be a Muslim. There are plenty of Christians in the Middle East and in Asia. Your philosophy doesn't hold water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Well, some do, for whatever reason. I guess they studied them all and picked the one that was best for them and made the most sense to them. NOONE just picks a religion..... it isnt ice cream..... you are either born into it as you stated or you use the brain your mind was given and study to find what fits what you do believe.... fitting your belief to a religion is just ignorant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSilverMaC Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 When referring to Jesus Christ, there are ONLY 2 possible TRUTHS...Either he was the biggest liar of ALL TIME...a complete fraud... OR He IS who he said he was...the Son of God. There ABSOLUTELY is NO MIDDLE GROUND No middle ground? So it's not possible that he's just made up, and neither a liar nor the son of god? Only a figment of the imagination of someone, in a story taken too literally? It's not possible that him, Gandalf, and Luke Skywalker are sitting on a couch somewhere in imagination-land drinking a 6-pack of Killians laughing at everyone? No middle ground is the problem with absolutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 Buddhists cannot achieve inner peace until they're free from, among other things, all forms of pain and suffering. I'm sure many Tibetan Buddhists would contend that China's occupation of their region is interfering with that. as a buddhist i will say you are mostly correct however there is more to it than that and thankfully buddhism allows me the freedom to believe the way i just do..... i have accepted that pain and suffering are a part of the physical world however i have moved on to find peace despite pain and suffering and to me...... that is the buddha <buddha = path of enlightenment> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 China has one of the largest Christian populations in the world. http://shanghaiist.com/2007/09/03/china_home_to_t.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 The only time my parents saw the inside of a church was while attending a wedding. I chose my faith as an adult. I wouldn't call my spiritual growth luck at all, it was work that I did on my own time. WHAT IS luck and geogrphy however is the religious free "morality" of the holier-than-thou athiests. Had you been born with the same religious beliefs in other areas with vastly different cultures your views on everything would be different. No moral foundation at all just culture you picked up while existing in part by reacting to what made others upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted May 29, 2008 Author Share Posted May 29, 2008 There are plenty of Christians in the Middle East and in Asia. Your philosophy doesn't hold water. Of course there are. You are nitpicking and missing the point. What are the odds you being the same religion if you were born in India? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 The title of this thread just about sums it up and I agree completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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