visionary Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llevron Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Damn thats messed up. You got to be heartless to kick a dude out of the country who has signed up to fight for it. Thats cold as hell 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PF Chang Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 These conservatives seem very economically anxious about 800K DACA participants. It's almost like the real reason is racism. The wall was always meant to be taken figuratively not literally! Wondering why I haven't seen that defense typically used to explain other Trump campaign lies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadySkinsFan Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 It's hard to explain why they want to boot 800,000 contributors to Social Security and Medicare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 I love how the guy couldn't even get the hat to burn. Not sure why was he burning out the America part but I guess that person must hate America. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheGreatBuzz Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Any smart legal minds in here able to explain the dreamers case to me? I mean I think what Trump is doing is morally wrong but I dont see how they have a legal leg to stand on. Isnt Trump just going back to pre-Obama EO position? Im assuming it was legal before Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Interesting legal avenue, but since Obama based his action on prosecutor discretion those things don't apply. Can I get a ruling here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 2 hours ago, twa said: Interesting legal avenue, but since Obama based his action on prosecutor discretion those things don't apply. Can I get a ruling here? Far as I'm concerned, Obama simply used his Presidential authority to not prosecute some people. An authority which absolutely is not binding on his successor. Whether Trump's decision to go after these people is good for the country may be debatable. But IMO, whether he has the authority is absolutely clear. (Which is why you choose to focus on his authority, and ignore whether it's good for the country.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Well he already said going after them would not be a priority....of course I hear he lies a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 40 minutes ago, Larry said: Far as I'm concerned, Obama simply used his Presidential authority to not prosecute some people. An authority which absolutely is not binding on his successor. Whether Trump's decision to go after these people is good for the country may be debatable. But IMO, whether he has the authority is absolutely clear. (Which is why you choose to focus on his authority, and ignore whether it's good for the country.) And thats why i asked about the grounds for these lawsuits. I think what trump is doing is wrong but whats the legal basis to oppose it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: And thats why i asked about the grounds for these lawsuits. I think what trump is doing is wrong but whats the legal basis to oppose it? i thought the only legal protection was if you were born here - anchor babies and such. Which is why they're so vulnerable (to the people that are advocating for them) - they were brought here at a young age with no choice in the matter, and only know here as home, but they were not born here and are not legal citizens. --- I cannot believe republicans can get behind their representatives of not extending citizenship to someone willing to fight for the country. majority of our own people won't even sign up for the military. What more do you want from these people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 59 minutes ago, tshile said: . What more do you want from these people? Not sure if this was rhetorical or what. I think what trump is doing with DACA is MORALLY wrong. I was asking about the legal side and the basis for the lawsuits under the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: Not sure if this was rhetorical or what. I think what trump is doing with DACA is MORALLY wrong. I was asking about the legal side and the basis for the lawsuits under the law. Yeah, it was a separate thought, addressed at the tweet visionary posted. I put a line between the thoughts because I was too lazy go quote him. Sorry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, tshile said: Yeah, it was a separate thought, addressed at the tweet visionary posted. I put a line between the thoughts because I was too lazy go quote him. Sorry About 1% are serving or have, I'm certainly willing to make a exception for them if they behaved...the other 99%? Seems like a distraction though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 On 9/15/2017 at 1:09 PM, visionary said: i don't think the flames match his level of disillusionment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 8 hours ago, twa said: About 1% are serving or have, I'm certainly willing to make a exception for them if they behaved...the other 99%? Seems like a distraction though. It's not a distraction. Assuming your numbers are correct, it's 1% of the people affected, but it's still people affected and affected in (in my opinion) the most ridiculous way possible. If you're not willing to risk your life to defend this country then you can go screw off for trying to deport a group of people willing to do so. Just how I view it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tshile Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 our right or their right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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