Alexa Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 If they took a QB with the first pick, I wouldn't be mad. But trading more draft picks for one would be REALLY STUPID. I prefer Winston over the Oregon kid. To the OP: Why a QB over a lineman? You didn't explain the reasoning. What have you seen this season that suggest a rookie QB would thrive behind this offensive line? Here's why. A great QB is much tougher to find then a tackle. A great QB makes the line better. Not saying a great QB is in this draft though. That's for the scouts to figure out. But if they think Mariota or Winston is that guy, they have to take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogofWar1 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Here's why. A great QB is much tougher to find then a tackle. A great QB makes the line better. Not saying a great QB is in this draft though. That's for the scouts to figure out. But if they think Mariota or Winston is that guy, they have to take him. This is the exact argument that was advanced for drafting RGIII last go round. Get the QB, he raises the team up and you build around him. Except we forgot the "build around him" part. Sure, we lacked for a lot of tools, but we missed opportunities where they existed and added skill positions where we needed guys in the trenches. I was in the "draft Griffin" camp last go around, and I don't regret it one bit because I agree with your argument in principle, BUT I can't support it this go round. I had thought this team was capable of building around "the guy," like most teams do, but I was wrong. We're not. We fundamentally cannot build a team. We just don't know how. And until we figure that out, there's no point in drafting a QB because we'll be right back here in 2017 or 2018. Mariota will be Griffin 2.0, the same way Griffin is seemingly Campbell 2.0, and Campbell was Ramsey 2.0, etc. etc. Normally I'd be all for drafting a franchise QB if we truly believed they were the guy. Except we don't deserve to draft "the guy." We'll turn "the guy" into "the Ramsey 4.0." When we figure out how to actually draft decent players, THEN we can go draft "the guy." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 IMO there is not a QB in this draft worth a top 10 pick - which likely will not stop 2 being taken. If there is any trading or picks for a QB I hope its someone trading up with us to take one of them rather than us doing anything stupid. Hell I would be very disappointed if we stayed put at say pick 5 and took a QB let alone trading up a couple of spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacoah Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I agree with the firing of Haz and shoring up the offensive line. But I'd like to give our QBs under Gruden's system another chance. With a decent offensive line and a new and smarter DC, we might be able to compete a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildbunny Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Hell no. If we have to trade up, we might as well do it to grab brandon scherff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Stop trading picks. If you can't watch our team and notice a major talent drop off, from other teams, you're not paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorrisFan46 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 If we ever trade a first pick again I'm liabel to have a stroke. In all seriousness though, no friggin way. We have good QBs on our roster. We just need a halfway decent Oline to put them behind. Draft Sherff or Erving if they fal into our lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins/psu1981 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 NO MORE ONE READ, NEVER SEEN A PLAYBOOK IN THEIR LIFE QB"S EVER AGAIN!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I get the feeling psu1981 meant that! And to the OP, hell no. O-line.As someone else said, we have talented QBs. They need protection.That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aireskoi Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Just ****ing no. I don't want to trade a draft pick away for anything ever again for any reason I wouldn't mind being on the Rams side of our trade. Unfortunately we can't trade with ourselves, and if we did it would turn out against us anyways. OK, no trades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldysknzfn1 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 More of our fan base..lol..smh...QB is not the only problem w/this team...I don't what it will take for ppl to see that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 This is the exact argument that was advanced for drafting RGIII last go round. Get the QB, he raises the team up and you build around him. Except we forgot the "build around him" part. Sure, we lacked for a lot of tools, but we missed opportunities where they existed and added skill positions where we needed guys in the trenches. I was in the "draft Griffin" camp last go around, and I don't regret it one bit because I agree with your argument in principle, BUT I can't support it this go round. I had thought this team was capable of building around "the guy," like most teams do, but I was wrong. We're not. We fundamentally cannot build a team. We just don't know how. And until we figure that out, there's no point in drafting a QB because we'll be right back here in 2017 or 2018. Mariota will be Griffin 2.0, the same way Griffin is seemingly Campbell 2.0, and Campbell was Ramsey 2.0, etc. etc. Normally I'd be all for drafting a franchise QB if we truly believed they were the guy. Except we don't deserve to draft "the guy." We'll turn "the guy" into "the Ramsey 4.0." When we figure out how to actually draft decent players, THEN we can go draft "the guy." Winston is a much better pro prospect than Griffin. Haven't seen much of Mariota. Winston gets rid of the ball and can throw guys open. Not sure we should draft him because he needs to go somewhere that's probably stable. We have an unstable organization. But if the Redskins think he can be a great QB, and he's there when they pick they should take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Vinnie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizmo 3squire Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail Em Up Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 He's the 2014 RGIII..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSSkinz Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hope&LoyaltyHTTR Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Embrace the suck guys Let's do this and sign Jay Cutler On bizzaro world, we'd be World champs I see what you did there. Combining 2 crazy QB idea threads with one comment... Genius Seinfeld's bizzaro world features more successful people. Let's just stick to the same bull**** here in the real world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinpride1 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I like the o.p. and the first part of his write up..fire all the current idiots on the staff ..shore up the o-line..if they do this then have at it moving up to get a q.b..dont listen to the homers around here. .I figured out long time ago they just like to hate...good write up o.p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRagone Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Dont feed the troll! Seriously, how does one have the ability to shore up the offensive line without the draft picks you will be spending to draft a QB? No thanks. QB is not, was not, and will not be the problem with the Washington Redskins, and until the team realizes that they will stink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdcskins Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I never want to trade another draft pick ever again. We aren't good at it. Seriously, keep draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiv Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Is crackpot like smoking crack and pot together? Stay off the drugs, kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodriggo Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 We have a QB around here ok?! His name is Kibert McCoy III ok?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 All in for Kirbert! ~Bong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortisBetts Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 This thread is just slightly, SLIGHTLY better than the Jay Cutler thread. BY slightly, I mean this **** thread just smells a little less strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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