StephenB Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Please explain? Back in '07 and '08 when the Caps started getting good and tickets were in higher demand, Ted Leonsis would only sell season tix to those with a VA, MD or DC area code. His aim was to keep away Penguins and Rangers and Flyers fans. Of course, that doesn't always root out transplants to the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightbird Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Back in '07 and '08 when the Caps started getting good and tickets were in higher demand, Ted Leonsis would only sell season tix to those with a VA, MD or DC area code. His aim was to keep away Penguins and Rangers and Flyers fans. Of course, that doesn't always root out transplants to the area. Exactly. Doesn't that say it all? Remember when our stadium got taken over by terrible towels on Monday Night Football in 2008 (when we were in the thick of the playoff hunt)? Leonsis would have had steam coming out of his ears and said "never again am I watching that." Dan just saw a sea of yellow towel-wavers and said "wow, look at all the paying customers -- great!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenB Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Exactly. Doesn't that say it all? Remember when our stadium got taken over by terrible towels on Monday Night Football in 2008 (when we were in the thick of the playoff hunt)? Leonsis would have had steam coming out of his ears and said "never again am I watching that." Dan just saw a sea of yellow towel-wavers and said "wow, look at all the paying customers -- great!" That was one of my low points as a fan. First off, I hate the Steeler fanbase, then on top of that, it was the debut of those hideous all burgundy monochrome uniforms. A day at the office to forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Some Redskins fans sound like people in bad dating relationships. "I know I cant stand him/her, and he/she is a total jerk to me all the time, but what if I dont find someone better? Maybe it will get better? Maybe just the first 4 years are the rough years? Ill tell him/her eventually, the timing just isnt right... I dont know, I just dont want to be alone" Fear is never a good motivator to do anything, much less keep Snyder in business, for fear of who might buy the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulane Skins Fan Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Exactly. Doesn't that say it all? Remember when our stadium got taken over by terrible towels on Monday Night Football in 2008 (when we were in the thick of the playoff hunt)? Leonsis would have had steam coming out of his ears and said "never again am I watching that." Dan just saw a sea of yellow towel-wavers and said "wow, look at all the paying customers -- great!" Not sure how you hold Snyder accountable for that, and I'm sure he didn't say that. He sucks at building a football team, let's focus on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightbird Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Not sure how you hold Snyder accountable for that, and I'm sure he didn't say that. He sucks at building a football team, let's focus on that. 1. Who should be held accountable for the fact that our stadium offers zero home-field advantage to our team? The poor schlub trying to sell tickets over the phone? 2. I'm sure he didn't say that too. It was facetious. I'm also sure he doesn't care who is in the seats, because he's never lifted a finger to correct the problem. 3. He sucks at building a football team, yes. Why wouldn't he? He had no NFL experience before he became an owner. But he also sucks -- big time -- in treating his loyal customers well and improving the game day experience for the common fan, which are two areas where an owner actually can and should get involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggarriso Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 out of curiosity only, anyone know what the skins offered to the lucky cyber monday callers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins_SF Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Snyder is getting to live his dream, to play GM for an NFL franchise. He has Bruce Allen to deflect criticism, and also likes the way Bruce includes him in all discussions and makes him feel like "one of the guys". Snyder has coaches and players to take the bullets for him year after year, because how dare they not win with the "winning" roster that he assembles every year. Snyder is loathe to hire a real GM, because he likes being the center of attention at Redskin's Park, and Bruce makes him feel like he's the smartest man in the room. If Snyder ever did hire a real GM, all serious football personnel would start gravitating towards the GM for football decisions, thus leaving Snyder left out. This is what happened during Schottenheimer's first year on the job, and why he was eventually fired because Snyder wasn't having much fun. For a moment this evening, I was rooting for the Jets to win on MNF, thinking that the Redskins could work their way to a higher draft pick, Then I caught myself and came to the realization that I really don't trust The Danny and Bruce to build anything resembling a professional football team. All hope is lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsailand Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Even if you believe he is out of the personnel discussion, it makes no difference--Snyder is still picking the pickers. That's exactly it. We already knew that Snyder is incompetent at picking players. We now also know that he is incompetent at choosing GMs, because he hired a GM who traded three firsts and a second for a fragile track star QB who ran the bull**** college-style scamper-around offense. So... is Snyder competent enough to pick the guy who will pick the next GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenDavis Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 So... is Snyder competent enough to pick the guy who will pick the next GM? Snyder couldn't successfully pick a guy to trim his hedges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bird_1972 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 That's exactly it. We already knew that Snyder is incompetent at picking players. We now also know that he is incompetent at choosing GMs, because he hired a GM who traded three firsts and a second for a fragile track star QB who ran the bull**** college-style scamper-around offense. So... is Snyder competent enough to pick the guy who will pick the next GM? Nope, dude is incompetent all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 out of curiosity only, anyone know what the skins offered to the lucky cyber monday callers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
celticsalmon Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Snyder is a marketing master (genius just doesn't work for this guy). He saw a windfall in a spindly-legged kid at Baylor. He was charmed by his personality-smitten by his smile. He ignored the red flags about the lad's lack of pocket skills, his narcisstic personality traits, his Head Coach's desire for Tannehill. A little big man fell in love and saw the coin in the Heisman super man socks-which went on sale at the Redskins store shortly after the draft! Griffin served his purpose- setting an all time record for jersey sold by the NFL Shop from 4.1.2012 - 03.31.13. Today, Griffin's #10 isn't ranked in the top 25. The luster has worn off - so of course, Snyder will push for Mariota or Winston. And the money machine will start up anew! When fans tell me he loves the team as much as we do- I ask them- then why is it that he never wears "Redskins" gear at games? Sorry 350.00 burgundy and gold silk ties don't count. As John Riggins stated in 2009 "this is a bad guy that owns this team." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 You would have better luck draining the Potomac with an eye dropper than starving Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm cancelling the NFL Sunday Ticket and getting rid of DirecTV altogether... I'm tired of the NFL period! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphs56 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Mort is reporting Snyder is "Befuddled" and "Confused" as to why RG III slipped so much that he's now backing up Colt McCoy and he hasn't listened to any of the media reports. We're all befuddled too Dan, but goodness, you're the owner of the team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins_SF Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 If the Redskin's organization had done any planning whatsoever, they would have realized that it takes 3-4 years for a quarterback transitioning from a college style offense to a Pro style offense (Example: Steve Young). Of course, patience and planning don't exist at Redskin's Park, hence the speculation that they are looking to jettison Robert after 2.5 seasons. This is not an environment to develop and groom players, because of too much dysfunction and turnover every few years. I still believe that Bruce Allen screwed up in his coaching hire. Gruden may turn out to be a decent head coach, but doesn't have the time and patience to develop Robert properly, due to his limited time window to prove himself to Snyder as a rookie head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 3. He sucks at building a football team, yes. Why wouldn't he? He had no NFL experience before he became an owner. Neither than Steve Bisciotti. The difference is that Bisciotti actually built a real business (and one that specializes in STAFFING of all things - essentially the business of getting the best talent for the best price). Snyder is essentially a glorified lottery winner who cashed out at the hight of the mergers and acquisitions craziness. That's literally all his "business" ever did. It's all about translatable skillsets. Building a real business translates into building an NFL franchise. Having your family run up their credit cards to subsidize your business failures until you find a rich friend to subsidize your business failures until you can go Bain Capital on your competition then cashing out doesn't. Snyder isn't qualified for anything other than flipping burgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassSkinsFan Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Snyder is essentially a glorified lottery winner who cashed out at the hight of the mergers and acquisitions craziness. That's literally all his "business" ever did. Snyder isn't qualified for anything other than flipping burgers. This is it in a nutshell. The Toxic ToddlerTM got lucky once and we got unlucky forever. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metskins Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 the next owner could be worse. He could change the name. He could run it like the Jags are run. Bro....The Redskins are the Jaguars. There's pretty much zero difference in these two programs currently. Also, kill me if you want, but if getting rid of Snyder meant having to deal with a new name, I'd learn to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan212689 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm cancelling the NFL Sunday Ticket and getting rid of DirecTV altogether... I'm tired of the NFL period! I tried to cancel my Sunday ticket and they wouldn't let me They just gave me $10 off for the remainder of the payments due. I agree the NFL has gotten boring to me as well. I live in Wisconsin so one would think I'd be a happy Packer fan but I'm not. I been a Skins fan since Taylor, Portis & Moss reunited in DC and been a die hard since. Sunday ticket and all. At this point I'm really ready to turn in my NFL card all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Robert Griffin Experience Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 This is it in a nutshell. The Toxic ToddlerTM got lucky once and we got unlucky forever. Ugh. The good news is that we'll only have to endure this for 10 years max. The Redskins are at a tipping point before it'll be simply too unprofitable for Snyder to keep. The fanbase is a shambling zombie at this point. Yes, revenue sharing will keep Danny Boy from going completely bust but merchandise costs, concessions, etc, will be in the toilet. How many Millenial fans are there? Not that many. Even at ES, most of the posters remember at least the 92 Super Bowl - that says a lot. In 20 more years, there will be no memory of the Gibbs years. Watch this space when it's time for a new stadium. Washington DC proper WILL NOT PAY TAXES to bankroll Snyder's answer to Jerry World (They hate the name, they resent the franchise due to GPM's racism, and they're borderline socialists). Neither will Maryland (MD is Ravens country now once you get past Bethesda/Silver Spring or so), and while if NoVA was a state, they'd consider it, they're part of a bigger state called Virginia, who won't. FedEx won't reup the lease either most likely. Danny is makng profit by squeezing everything out of the franchise in terms of profit margins and leeching the die hards. That is, say it with me, UNSUSTAINABLE. By 2020 Snyder will be looking for an exit strategy from Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USS Redskins Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about. Being an NFL owner is a cash machine. It's set up so even the smallest franchise owners will rake in millions... Look at Cleveland, Cincinnati... Franchises that had just a few dozen wins between them for decades and they are still rolling. Cleveland has never even been to a Superbowl.... Besides the shared revenue in the league between tickets, jerseys, tv, etc... he has sponsorship deals all over the place. They aren't going away anytime soon. And the Redskins are not building a stadium in DC. Snyder may be a bad owner but he isn't stupid enough to go down that road. Its Virginia all the way. And with all the money that will involve, VA will be all over the deal. Bank on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probos Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Mort is reporting Snyder is "Befuddled" and "Confused" as to why RG III slipped so much that he's now backing up Colt McCoy and he hasn't listened to any of the media reports. We're all befuddled too Dan, but goodness, you're the owner of the team! Ha -- of course he's confused. He knows nothing about the QB position, putting a team together, or the game of football general. He's rich fan that lucked into buying the team. I'd rather hear he's confused and befuddled than him offering up an explaination that's full of BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Bro....The Redskins are the Jaguars. There's pretty much zero difference in these two programs currently. Here's a fun little stat that will make your stomach hurt. All but 9 of the 32 NFL teams have been in a conference championship game since 1999, the year Snyder took over the Redskins. They are the Bills, Cowboys, Bengals, Browns, Lions, Texans, Chiefs, Dolphins and Redskins. We're actually worse than the Jaguars!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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