HigSkin Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 FWIW - Brock Huard was on The Herd a couple weeks ago and said Penix processes quicker than any college QB he's been around. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 14 minutes ago, KDawg said: Penix and Ewers look so much better than every other QB that has played today. Aside from Nix (added that one because simp clown) You're just asking for another biting insult to come your way (I'm hoping for "dunderhead") 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, Rufus T Firefly said: You're just asking for another biting insult to come your way (I'm hoping for "dunderhead") Rapscallion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Two not real impressive plays by Worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frontline205 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 4 hours ago, Rufus T Firefly said: I don't think anyone is advocating taking him at this point. More discussing him generally. If there is anyone who wants us to take McCarthy second, or trade down a few spots to take him, reveal yourself, so you can be insulted by the group. It is I!! I am the McCarthy who wants him on the commanders 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Nonsense Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 No way Penix Jr makes it past Pittsburgh despite his injury history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I don't get why the next Tom Brady is commenting on college football rather than winning Super Bowls. (That one is for some of the old timers on the board) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 19 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: I don't get why the next Tom Brady is commenting on college football rather than winning Super Bowls. (That one is for some of the old timers on the board) That was my favorite thread of all time. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 This is interesting... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always A Commander Never A Captain Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, HigSkin said: FWIW - Brock Huard was on The Herd a couple weeks ago and said Penix processes quicker than any college QB he's been around. Including this game (that's still underway), Penix has been sacked only 10 times in 14 games. Compare that to Maye and Williams, who get sacked all the time and Penix has to be operating quicker. If anything backs up that statement, it's the super low sack rate. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 13 minutes ago, HigSkin said: This is interesting... I’ll hammer the over on UW day 1 number. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 3 minutes ago, Ball Security said: I’ll hammer the over on UW day 1 number. Yeah, that's weird,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 2 minutes ago, Rufus T Firefly said: Yeah, that's weird,. It’s not inconceivable that they get four, but I’d think two is really safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, No Nonsense said: No way Penix Jr makes it past Pittsburgh despite his injury history. I dunno. He looks really good, but those are some serious injuries. Tore the same ACL twice, dislocated his throwing shoulder. I'd be incredibly wary about taking him in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Just now, mistertim said: I dunno. He looks really good, but those are some serious injuries. Tore the same ACL twice, dislocated his throwing shoulder. I'd be incredibly wary about taking him in the 1st round. Yeesh, dude is more surgical mesh than man. Combine medicals are gonna be more thorough than anything he's been thru. Teams are going to will signs of lasting damage into existence. Dark spots on X-rays will be the bubonic plague. I'd wait until the NFL doctors tear thru his medicals before I reliably place an injury history that strong near the top of the draft. Feels like he has medical free-fall written all over him. Would not surprise me if a lot of teams have already taken him off their board entirely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 6 hours ago, Always A Commander Never A Captain said: Including this game (that's still underway), Penix has been sacked only 10 times in 14 games. Compare that to Maye and Williams, who get sacked all the time and Penix has to be operating quicker. If anything backs up that statement, it's the super low sack rate. Can't wait to see how he makes out against Michigan's defense. If he survives that onslaught and plays well, win or lose, he is moving up draft boards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 8 hours ago, Ball Security said: How many QBs get drafted this year? I'm intrigued by how many will go in round 1. The Championship Game will give us a better read on two of the highest potential to join the early 3 QB party. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 6 hours ago, FootballZombie said: Yeesh, dude is more surgical mesh than man. Combine medicals are gonna be more thorough than anything he's been thru. Teams are going to will signs of lasting damage into existence. Dark spots on X-rays will be the bubonic plague. I'd wait until the NFL doctors tear thru his medicals before I reliably place an injury history that strong near the top of the draft. Feels like he has medical free-fall written all over him. Would not surprise me if a lot of teams have already taken him off their board entirely. Here’s the thing, though… He’s been healthy the last two seasons. That is going to factor in. I think we’re going to hear an awful lot about how teams are pushing his injury history as a big deal, for sure. But then, especially if he performs well next week, someone is going to grab him in the late first. 8 hours ago, Ball Security said: How many QBs get drafted this year? I think we’re going to see a bunch. Williams Maye Daniels Penix Nix Ward Rattler Pratt are damn near locks. Then we’ll have guys that declare in the next couple weeks and we’ll have some other QBs drafted. I’d say 10+ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 34 minutes ago, KDawg said: Here’s the thing, though… He’s been healthy the last two seasons. That is going to factor in. I think we’re going to hear an awful lot about how teams are pushing his injury history as a big deal, for sure. But then, especially if he performs well next week, someone is going to grab him in the late first. I think we’re going to see a bunch. Williams Maye Daniels Penix Nix Ward Rattler Pratt are damn near locks. Then we’ll have guys that declare in the next couple weeks and we’ll have some other QBs drafted. I’d say 10+ I post an article a week or so ago saying NFL FO"s are much higher on McCarthy than mock drafters. I think if he comes out he's at least #5 in that group. I am not a big Nix guy, I think he will have a good NFL career but most likely my guess as a backup -- he reminds me a lot of Colt McCoy. I noticed PFF doesn't think much of Ward and they aren't bad at smoking out some of the later round QBs including Purdy a couple of years ago. They do like Nix though. But I'll watch Ward and make up my own mind. I wonder about Jordan Travis if he enters this draft. mid round? I agree Penix is likely a riser. He'd be tempting for some QB desperate team in spite of his injury issues. i like to gauge my own thoughts sometimes in the context of would I like it if a division rival drafted the player -- and thinking about it i wouldn't love it if he ended up with the Giants. He's a gamer. Edited January 2 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 I like McCarthy. I think he's #4 in the class, and part of me likes him more than Daniels despite the difference in production. I just don't like him over Maye and definitely not over Williams, but yeah at some point all of the winning does become hard to ignore. He takes care of the football, he's athletic, and he wins. But he also doesn't have a great NFL body (similar to Daniels), he plays behind a Joe Moore line, next to the best running back in CFB who has scored over 40 freaking touchdowns in two years, and his defense is killer. I'm hoping Michigan wins it all next week so he'll have more incentive to go pro in this class instead of waiting until next year. IMO McCarthy is our best fall back option if we win our last game. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Going Commando said: I like McCarthy. I think he's #4 in the class, and part of me likes him more than Daniels despite the difference in production. I just don't like him over Maye and definitely not over Williams, but yeah at some point all of the winning does become hard to ignore. He takes care of the football, he's athletic, and he wins. But he also doesn't have a great NFL body (similar to Daniels), he plays behind a Joe Moore line, next to the best running back in CFB who has scored over 40 freaking touchdowns in two years, and his defense is killer. I'm hoping Michigan wins it all next week so he'll have more incentive to go pro in this class instead of waiting until next year. IMO McCarthy is our best fall back option if we win our last game. McCarthy makes plays off platform, good accuracy, and has special speed. Because they rely so much on the running game, I wish I could see him in a game where they let it fly with him. Granted Michigan doesn't have the receivers that Washington does, not even close, but with Penix they put it on his shoulders. Yeah its taking me awhile to get there but I am with you as to Drake Maye at #2. I've watched at this point more Maye than any player I've ever watched in a draft. I think there is almost an overthinking with Maye with some (not here, everyone here puts in the time for their takes) as to him being so cool as a prospect for 2 years running that its become uncool to like him. But his traits IMO are so absurdly translatible to the pros -- he's a safe pick. And I am not the easiest sell on college QBs. There have been plenty I've liked and disliked. I have a better hit rate on the ones I dislike but of course the odds are with me on that front. But there have been QBs I like including Howell and Corral for example but I didn't love either one, said they have plenty of bust in them, and rated them both as 2nd rounders. And for Corral i soured on him as the draft process went on after hearing about his interviews, etc. I didn't have any trepidation about Burrow. Maye is almost in that category for me. He slam dunk IMO deserves his top 5 in the draft status. High first round talent. He's not flawless. But he's a complete, well rounded QB, who has every trait needed IMO. And i hate to be boring-conventional especially with QBs but for me its definitely Caleb and then Drake. Daniels next. I am undecided about 4. Edited January 2 by Skinsinparadise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 That means something to me. Obviously, I am not scout but my best read on QBs have been when I've gone to camp where I can see the QB throw up close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhd24 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Assuming we stay at 2 and take QB, the more the Qbs get taken, the better for our 2nd rounder to take a WR or OL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: That means something to me. Obviously, I am not scout but my best read on QBs have been when I've gone to camp where I can see the QB throw up close. Michael can spin it as well as anyone and he also showed some elusiveness in the pocket as well. The only concern is accuracy, but I think he certainly raised his stock some last night with that performance. Edited January 2 by Chump Bailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan66 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 1 hour ago, DWinzit said: I'm intrigued by how many will go in round 1. The Championship Game will give us a better read on two of the highest potential to join the early 3 QB party. 1 hour ago, KDawg said: Here’s the thing, though… He’s been healthy the last two seasons. That is going to factor in. I think we’re going to hear an awful lot about how teams are pushing his injury history as a big deal, for sure. But then, especially if he performs well next week, someone is going to grab him in the late first. I think we’re going to see a bunch. Williams Maye Daniels Penix Nix Ward Rattler Pratt are damn near locks. Then we’ll have guys that declare in the next couple weeks and we’ll have some other QBs drafted. I’d say 10+ One thing is for sure is last night none of those top 3 QB's has ever had the night Penix did had last night. Or have led their teams to what these QB's have done. USC's backup QB throws 6 TD's and beats a good Louisville team, D looked good enough top win that game or is the ACC that weak? Daniels skipped his game LSU WR's did not miss a beat. NC middle of the pack ACC team. While the 20 year old, and broken 5th year QB's lead's leads their team to the National Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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