clskinsfan Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 1 minute ago, Anselmheifer said: 1.39 ten yard split. 1.39? I thought they said 49. If its 39 thats his record now too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 57 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said: I think the only guys I'm banging Where's the out of context thread when ya need it. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 6 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: 1.39? I thought they said 49. If its 39 thats his record now too. Got it off the RAS graphic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Not sure if it’s been mentioned but the 3 cone is a great predictor for performance (lateral agility for route running and YAC) and Sinott had a 6.82 which is absurd at 250. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) Folks know I'm a pretty big Penn State fan and I'm going to go ahead and throw cold water on the whole Theo Johnson thing. I would stay away unless it is day three, definitely not in the 2nd round like he is now being projected. I don't care how he tests, he disappeared for long stretches of games. He had 12 total TD's and less than 1,000 yards receiving for his entire career at Penn State. In some instances, he just wasn't the primary option, like the year everything went to Jahan Dotson. But this past season, Penn State had a weak WR core and were breaking in a new QB. You'd think this is where the TE would thrive, but it just didn't happen. Johnson also had a tendency to drop passes. For me to remember that someone has issues dropping the ball, it has to have happened enough times to stick. Maybe he's a good blocker, I'm not the type to watch a ton of tape and go back to see how well the TE blocked. This guy has workout warrior written all over him. The other TE Penn State had in their two TE personnel, Tyler Warren, was far more dependable. For reference, several years ago Penn State had a TE named Mike Gesicki who was also around 6'6" and a former volleyball player. The guy could jump out of a stadium. Penn State had a red zone play where they would essentially lob the ball in his direction near the goalpost and he'd go up and get it, sometimes with one hand. Gesicki has been in the league for years as a journeyman without a ton of success, but the point is, if Theo Johnson was that great at leaping and catching with his size, Penn State would have had the same play in the playbook for him, especially as a safety valve with a young QB, and it wasn't in the playbook because he isn't reliable. Also, and I only bring this up because I pay a bit more attention to what folks on here say about PSU players than others. There were a number of people on this board who didn't want Micah Parsons under any circumstances because he might have been involved in hazing his teammates. I'm aware he didn't make it to our pick but if he had, I'd bet most of those same people wouldn't care after the seasons he has put up, unless you're really loving the Jamin Davis experiment. I say this because the Parsons stuff was alleged. Theo Johnson was actually convicted of assault last summer. Didn't like being asked to leave a party and punched someone in the face. https://www.psucollegian.com/news/campus/penn-state-football-tight-end-theo-johnson-sentenced-for-involvement-in-february-assault/article_cd7d0d4a-1760-11ee-b30a-0f44b2780190.html Now oddly, though he was suspended from team activities for awhile, he was named a team captain prior to the season so who the heck knows, but if you're one of those people who only wants the most pure of character, take him off your boards. Edited to add, I'll root for the guy. I generally want to see PSU guys get drafted and succeed since it helps with recruiting, unless they go to another NFC East team. But I wouldn't invest a pick in him and I wouldn't bet any of my own money that he'll have a good career. Edited March 2 by Forehead 2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 9 minutes ago, Forehead said: The other TE Penn State had in their two TE personnel, Tyler Warren, was far more dependable. We are brother. And I posted the same thing a few pages back. Warren would have gone before Theo in this draft imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 44 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: I think McConkey in the 2nd and Pearsall in the early 3td are my guys. Both high floor receivers IMO I like Pearsall as well if he last until the 3rd. Think he could be a very productive NFL slot receiver. 4.4 was a very solid time for him. There is some buzz around him though, so I wonder if he lasts until the 3rd. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 4 hours ago, Going Commando said: 4.7 is a damaging time for Estime. I was ready to put that dude in the second round. Now he's definitely going to go on day 3. I still love his game though, and I want us to get him. I'm a BRob fan, but Estime is so good and you never know what will happen to your running backs. I think Benson is going to be RB1 now. He checks every single box and feels like a top 50 talent. I watched a lot of Notre Dame last year - I think he can run a touch faster than that and expect he will at some point before the draft. But he’s not a 4.5 guy, he lcks a top gear. But he does a lot of other things really well and will be a productive NFL back. He has good vision, is patient, runs inside out (so doesn’t bounce it too soon if he see color inside) and he’s a load to tackle once he gets churning. Underrated catching the ball as well. He’d be a good backup to Robinson if we are going to run a lot of inside zone/gap. Without us knowing what we want to do with the run game it’s hard to project backs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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clskinsfan Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Tez looks like a completely different WR without a DB on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Worthy's combine performance is an All-Timer. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chump Bailey Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 4.21 for Worthy? Holy crap. 4.42 - Jha'Quan Jackson 4.43 - Bub Means, Tulu Griffin 4.44 - Cornelius Johnson, Ryan Flournoy 4.45 - Jermain Burton Just the WR's I was most curious about. Those are great times for these guys who are on the larger side. Thanks @Skinsinparadise Edited March 3 by Chump Bailey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 The shorts Olympic hype is in full swing. Must be March! 4.21 is fast as hell, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I think people put too much emphasis on the 40. Speed is great and a top receiver should have good speed but just look at John Ross. He held the record until this year but did nothing in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Skinsinparadise Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I think he goes in the late 2nd now. IMO the next most high floor Wr in the 2nd round range after McConkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Woof, some guys threw down in the 40. Should be some good speed available in the early 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 59 minutes ago, RVAskins said: I think people put too much emphasis on the 40. Speed is great and a top receiver should have good speed but just look at John Ross. He held the record until this year but did nothing in the NFL. The counter is Tyrek Hill ran 4.29. You can’t JUST be fast, but it’s not a bad place to start. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVAskins Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 5 minutes ago, MartinC said: The counter is Tyrek Hill ran 4.29. You can’t JUST be fast, but it’s not a bad place to start. Agree. Speed takes receivers to another level but it's just part of of the equation fans need to consider when judging a receiver. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Brian Thomas is the perfect blend of size speed and hands. I have had him as my number 3 for weeks now. And I dont see that changing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 This is one of the fastest WR groups we've ever seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjinhan Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 We need to try to take a chance to find a Tyreek Hill https://t.co/9JSltnjEUC forget the overall score that is impacted by size and weight but focus on the speed and quickness metrics. Then if the dude can catch then we should take a chance any of these guys in the draft this year? Andy Reid always seems to find them…. Maybe we will find one with Adam Peters here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, Skinsinparadise said: I think he goes in the late 2nd now. IMO the next most high floor Wr in the 2nd round range after McConkey Pearsall makes some unreal catches too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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