Califan007 The Constipated Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 5 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Fan since a Fetus said: No matter who ended up being the current president, outside of trump, I just don’t feel the blame is laid at their feet. And I just don't feel that you can objectively look at the withdrawl and NOT place any blame at his feet. *noting for emphasis that I didn't say ALL or MOST of the blame. Edited September 28, 2023 by TheGreatBuzz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since a Fetus Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, TheGreatBuzz said: And I just don't feel that you can objectively look at the withdrawl and NOT place any blame at his feet. *noting for emphasis that I didn't say ALL or MOST of the blame. Yeah, I hear you. We disagree, But I understand what you’ve said. I understand that I am a civilian and we think differently. I just don’t see what anyone could have done differently when forced into that situation. Granted, I don’t have all the knowledge and the facts of the situation that Biden has/had. But it was destined for failure from the start. He delayed as much as he could, but the Taliban took over. Our troops were outnumbered by the people there that were still fighting us and then an extra 5,000 got released to help their cause. The Evil Genius said we only had 2500 troops there at the time, i thought it was 3000 when Biden took over. I see as of 2021 it is estimated that there are 75,000 Taliban in Afghanistan. Kind of hard to fight that with 3,000 troops. The withdrawal could have been handled better if people would have listened to the experts on the subject (the military) instead of just doing whatever the hell they wanted to. Ultimately, I’m glad we got out of Afghanistan. It was a good decision. But the time frame was unreasonable from the start. And I’m still pissed that the republicans are trying to make an example out of the defense Secretary, I know ultimately the crap they are trying to pull is not going to be upheld, but look in the mirror sometime. (Not you buzz, well unless You want to) Edit: One more thing. I’m really glad Biden is not out here saying “Afghanistan was really unfair to me.” “Trump was really unfair to me” At least he’s not whining about it and I assume he accepts some responsibility Edited September 28, 2023 by Fan since a Fetus 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 For some reason I thought this topic would be talking about republican ineptitude leading to a government shutdown. Somehow the republicans got us defending Biden over the Hunter Biden mess and why he wasn’t to blame for Afghanistan… 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 This is definitely a serious governing party 1 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The 12th Commandment Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: 500 lbs of moose meat isn't at all a strange thing to find on a plane in the bush in Alaska. I'm glad the guy had a successful hunt to wind things up. I rode a couple of those planes when I was spent my summer up there and I couldn't help but be aware of the, basically bi-weekly, news of another bush plane going down. AK is almost as bad as Australia at finding ways to kill you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 We'll see how it goes when it's more than just words 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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purbeast Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 One silver lining for me if there is a shutdown is I won't have to go into the office once a week for meetings because the office will be closed. So it will be fully remote instead of like 10% a week in the office for meetings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 Language Spoiler 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since a Fetus Posted September 29, 2023 Share Posted September 29, 2023 ^ those republicans still get paid whether they voted yay or nay. It’s the rest of the gov that doesn’t until they find a deal. So happy they are taking off again and not working through it. I know they need the break unlike they rest of the country. wouldn’t want them to put in some overtime. time for recess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skinsmarydu Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Kev can't take the pressure. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 On 9/28/2023 at 6:04 PM, Fan since a Fetus said: The Evil Genius said we only had 2500 troops there at the time, i thought it was 3000 when Biden took over. I see as of 2021 it is estimated that there are 75,000 Taliban in Afghanistan. Kind of hard to fight that with 3,000 troops. You left out the 300K Afghan soldiers we spent like 80+billion dollars training and providing military equipment to. So the Taliban were outnumbered 330K to 75K..........and the Afghan troops just rolled over without a fight and gave control of their country to terrorists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbyrwock Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 29 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: "Motion to Vacate" sounds more like the digestive consequence of eating too much fiber than a legislative procedure. Having said that both relieve you of a pile of ****...so I guess it makes sense. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Evil Genius Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Again, guessing it will be the CA SOS that he chooses for Feinstein seat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsmarydu Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Just now, The Evil Genius said: Again, guessing it will be the CA SOS that he chooses for Feinstein seat. And I'm sure he's given it some thought before today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan since a Fetus Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dont Taze Me Bro said: You left out the 300K Afghan soldiers we spent like 80+billion dollars training and providing military equipment to. So the Taliban were outnumbered 330K to 75K..........and the Afghan troops just rolled over without a fight and gave control of their country to terrorists. That would be 303k. Also, the Taliban weren’t outnumbered if 300k weren’t willing to fight. Therefore, our troops were outnumbered. Edited September 30, 2023 by Fan since a Fetus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, skinsmarydu said: And I'm sure he's given it some thought before today. He'd mentioned filling her spot with a woman of color, should Feinstein had resigned. Edited September 30, 2023 by The Evil Genius 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Taze Me Bro Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fan since a Fetus said: That would be 303k. Also, the Taliban weren’t outnumbered if 300k weren’t willing to fight. Therefore, our troops were outnumbered. I made a typo. That aside, it doesn't change the fact that 300K Afghan soldiers and our American troops had a clear advantage during the withdrawl, it was ****ing a 3:1 ratio. And the Biden Administration totally botched the withdrawl. And the republicans can also be blamed. Edited September 30, 2023 by Dont Taze Me Bro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergasun Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Kamala!! Kome back to the Senate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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