Destino Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Spaceman Spiff said: I didn't know you met @Destino, too! Gotta keep the fishing hardcore bro 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) Back to the story this really is a big deal with so much money on the line. I mean the guy won thousands of dollars and a boat by cheating the others. I do know in the big money tournaments they X-ray the fish because this weighting is not new, I guess they don't do it for the smaller tournaments Edited October 3, 2022 by Darrell Green Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said: Back to the story this really is a big deal with so much money on the line. I mean the guy won thousands of dollars and a boat by cheating the others. I do know in the big money tournaments they X-ray the fish because this weighting is not new, I guess they don't do it for the smaller tournaments You’d think they could feel weights as big as this guy was using. If you picked the fish up it would be hard to miss that it was awful heavy in the middle. Then again he did get caught so maybe they caught it exactly like that. I’ve never paid much attention to tournaments. Now I’m wondering how many anglers show up with their “catches” already secured. Just stash them out on the lake somewhere if they search boats, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Destino said: You’d think they could feel weights as big as this guy was using. If you picked the fish up it would be hard to miss that it was awful heavy in the middle. Then again he did get caught so maybe they caught it exactly like that. I’ve never paid much attention to tournaments. Now I’m wondering how many anglers show up with their “catches” already secured. Just stash them out on the lake somewhere if they search boats, It's literally fish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 🤭 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr. Sinister said: Why would you cheat at catching fish I remember going fishing with my friend and his dad. His dad cast his line out without putting any bait on it. I said “You not gonna bait your hook?” He replied “No. I don’t want the fish bothering me.” That’s when I learned what fishing was all about. 😆 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytoAli Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Llevron said: Booooo lol For the love of God “It’s a dad joke”. 3 hours ago, Busch1724 said: Dodgeball? Pickleball first. Uneven plastics whiffle balls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, ClaytoAli said: Pickleball first. Uneven plastics whiffle balls. Haven't played pickle ball. Should I try cucumber ball first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Almighty Buzz said: Fishing is about 90% eating tasty meat for me. And just sitting back, BSing while I wait for the line to tighten. I have an eaten a fish I caught in decades. I just like to catch them and then throw them back Edited October 3, 2022 by Darrell Green Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 The answer to this is probably going to depress me, but how much money can there possibly be in fishing competitions? I saw the "thousands of dollars" thing above but before that, I would have guessed they were cheating to win a $50 gift card to Denny's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Darrell Green Fan said: I have an eaten a fish I caught in decades. I just like to catch them and then throw them back I'm the opposite. It isn't worth it to me if I don't intend on eating it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, The Almighty Buzz said: I'm the opposite. It isn't worth it to me if I don't intend on eating it. I feel that way with crabs. But with a bass I'd rather throw him in the lake and maybe catch him again. Fish doesn't taste as good as crabs to me. Edited October 3, 2022 by Darrell Green Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Anyways, sorry for the derail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Forehead said: The answer to this is probably going to depress me, but how much money can there possibly be in fishing competitions? I saw the "thousands of dollars" thing above but before that, I would have guessed they were cheating to win a $50 gift card to Denny's. First prize in this tournament was $45k. Guy caught cheating has earned 3 million in his career (20 years). This has completely enthralled me, some of these tournaments have prizes in excess of 100k for the winner. In some the winners can get a new boat worth north of a $150k. The earnings are secondary to sponsorship and the like. Also, from what I’ve read the police thing is not uncommon. Cheating is serious because the prize value is so high and can be considered a felony. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 So why is gutting the fish after weighing them not standard practice? Seems like this would be a really easy issue to curb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoCommiesGo Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) From what I’ve read about this, his fish were 8lbs heavier in total then the second place fish. I’m not a fisherman by any stretch of the imagination, people who are hardcore fishers can guess the weight of a fish pretty accurately based on size and type. When they weighed these fish people were calling BS and the weigh go took it aside and gutted them. I think it was such an outlier that caused them to do it. Also, I think because it’s a regional tournament has something to do with it, people know each other and have a level of trust. Edited October 4, 2022 by GoCommiesGo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 You'd think they'd have some basic idea of what a fish of a particular length should weigh and see that it doesn't pass the smell test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmirOfShmo Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Forehead said: The answer to this is probably going to depress me, but how much money can there possibly be in fishing competitions? I saw the "thousands of dollars" thing above but before that, I would have guessed they were cheating to win a $50 gift card to Denny's. I don't know about this particular tournament, but a guy I grew up was in the tourney below out of OCMD (and other bill fish tourney's). His boat has won several million in these tourney's. Boat is out of Manteo, NC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Sinister Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, Forehead said: The answer to this is probably going to depress me, but how much money can there possibly be in fishing competitions? I saw the "thousands of dollars" thing above but before that, I would have guessed they were cheating to win a $50 gift card to Denny's. This man gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaytoAli Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Dan T. said: Haven't played pickle ball. Should I try cucumber ball first? Nah, game is too long. Start small and work your way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 3 hours ago, CobraCommander said: So why is gutting the fish after weighing them not standard practice? Seems like this would be a really easy issue to curb. In these types of tournaments, the fish are returned to the water alive after being weighed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraCommander Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 hours ago, The Almighty Buzz said: In these types of tournaments, the fish are returned to the water alive after being weighed. Given the prize money and prizes involved there has to be a a way to check the fish. Maybe just random checks. Check the biggest fish caught at each tournament? I don’t know really care tbh. But clearly trusting others because it’s a small community that takes this seriously didn’t work out so well for these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share Posted October 4, 2022 Quote Mr. Fischer, who is a police sergeant in a Cleveland suburb, said he had spoken to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources about what happened. “Everything was turned over to law enforcement,” he said. Wildlife officers with the department responded to the tournament, “collected evidence and are preparing a report” for the Cuyahoga County prosecutor’s office, Stephanie O’Grady, a department spokeswoman, said on Sunday. “As this is an open investigation, we have no further comment at this time,” she said. Mr. Fischer said he was unclear what recourse he had for recovering money from previous tournaments won by Mr. Runyan and Mr. Cominsky. He said that the men had taken voice-stress and polygraph tests for his tournaments, a common practice for winners of such events, and had passed. Mr. Fischer said an observer had also been on their boat during a previous competition. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/02/us/fishing-tournament-cheating-scandal-lake-erie.html Did not know polygraph tests were a normal part of fishing tournaments. Tells you how useful they are though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cooked Crack said: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/02/us/fishing-tournament-cheating-scandal-lake-erie.html Did not know polygraph tests were a normal part of fishing tournaments. Tells you how useful they are though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Green Fan Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 8 hours ago, The Almighty Buzz said: In these types of tournaments, the fish are returned to the water alive after being weighed. Yeah that's standard procedure which is why I was surprised to see all these dead fish. Most don't survive the stress, which is why for some big money tournaments they have officials on board to weigh, record, then release the fish. Guys the prize money he won was 40 grand. As posted he has won millions as well as a boat (according to the video). That money was stolen from the other competitors, he should face charges as he stole a lot of money. As for the weights those were 1 ounce weights. You can't tell by looking at a fish it is weighs 4 pounds 7 ounces from 4 pounds 8 ounces. But in 5-7 fish it could be the difference between 1st place and 3rd and that means thousands of dollars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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