SkinsFTW Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) 46 minutes ago, NoVaSkins21 said: It’s no surprise that Martin Mayhew’s time with the Lions coincides with their roughest times as a franchise. Rivera hires this clown as GM and they’ve had crappy drafts Yeah it was kind of funny when they fired the guy who had just had several good drafts, besides the Doofus Dan Haskins pick. Edited October 6, 2023 by SkinsFTW 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, SkinsFTW said: Yeah it was kind of funny when they fired the guy who had just had several good drafts, besides the Doofus Dan Haskins pick. Yeah, that was Kyle Smith who brought in Logan, McKissic, and drafted Curl among others. Rivera didn't feel comfortable with him and brought his cronies from Carolina and brought in Mayhew and here we are until present day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I wouldnt be mad at this as long as EB is elevated and retains play calling duties. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, illone said: I wouldnt be mad at this as long as EB is elevated and retains play calling duties. I’ll only give him the benefit of the doubt since he’s five games in, not four years. But he’s been bad. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, illone said: I wouldnt be mad at this as long as EB is elevated and retains play calling duties. The guy getting called out by a team captain after the games and getting in yelling matches on the sidelines? That would go well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 19 hours ago, NoVaSkins21 said: It’s no surprise that Martin Mayhew’s time with the Lions coincides with their roughest times as a franchise. Rivera hires this clown as GM and they’ve had crappy drafts That was Matt Millen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idaho fan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Remember when Ron had three weeks to prepare for the NY Giants? Had a bye week and just needed that win for post season bid? Remember how prepared the team was for that 2nd game? Yeah that was similar to the Chicago game except Chicago HAD NOT WON A GAME IN A YEAR! He can’t prepare a team for crap. Ron is a nice guy and a **** head coach and even a worse GM 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheGoodBits said: I’ll only give him the benefit of the doubt since he’s five games in, not four years. But he’s been bad. I agree, EB has been bad and is gonna get Howell killed. I'd rather miss the playoffs and find out about Howell then squeak in and not have Howell healthy. Howell is gonna be the next David Carr at this pace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Idaho fan said: Remember when Ron had three weeks to prepare for the NY Giants? Had a bye week and just needed that win for post season bid? Remember how prepared the team was for that 2nd game? Yeah that was similar to the Chicago game except Chicago HAD NOT WON A GAME IN A YEAR! He can’t prepare a team for crap. Ron is a nice guy and a **** head coach and even a worse GM Ron is terrible at game prep. This team barely won last year vs the Bears and this year they were blown out this time around. His stoic look on the sideline shows that he's lost and doesn't doesn't have any awareness. Save for one big season in Carolina, he's been bad. This team needs an young innovative mind at the controls. Here's hoping ownership feels the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSkins21 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 50 minutes ago, MrJL said: That was Matt Millen He was hired by Millen and still part of that mess. You can look it up Edited October 7, 2023 by NoVaSkins21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anselmheifer Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 I hope they keep every coach through the end of the year as part of an intentional tanking. I want a top 5 pick and top 2 would be magic. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Anselmheifer said: I hope they keep every coach through the end of the year as part of an intentional tanking. I want a top 5 pick and top 2 would be magic. Who would you take at #2...curious to hear? Assuming Howell is our future is there a stud o-lineman in the draft that could anchor our line for years? Or a game changing linebacker or safety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, kingdaddy said: Who would you take at #2...curious to hear? Assuming Howell is our future is there a stud o-lineman in the draft that could anchor our line for years? Or a game changing linebacker or safety? There is a stud OL worthy of the pick, and a stud WR. But most importantly, at this stage you absolutely cannot just assume that Howell is our future. It’s good to have options for our future competent staff, and #2 maximizes those options 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 If we pick at #2 you absolutely have to take Maye. At #3 it's Alt or Fanashu. If it Finally clicked for fields they probably aren't picking top 3 with their pick, but they have the Panthers first and second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Idaho fan said: Remember when Ron had three weeks to prepare for the NY Giants? Had a bye week and just needed that win for post season bid? Remember how prepared the team was for that 2nd game? Yeah that was similar to the Chicago game except Chicago HAD NOT WON A GAME IN A YEAR! He can’t prepare a team for crap. Ron is a nice guy and a **** head coach and even a worse GM I mentioned this a couple times and it's worth repeating. Remember when we upset the undefeated, unbeatable-looking, 8-0 Eagles last season....in primetime.....on MNF......at THEIR house? And what in the Wide World of Sports........we did it with [redacted] at QB! That's the best prepared the team has ever looked during the RR era/error (you choose the word). You know who put that together game plan together - JDR. You know who was more involved in offensive game-planning that week - KZ not ST, because RR wasn't involved. No coincidence, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, skinzplay said: You know who was more involved in offensive game-planning that week - KZ not ST, because RR wasn't involved. No coincidence, folks. How do you know that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskinss Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 And for the love of God don't hire Mario cristobal 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 Letting RR finish the season will do more harm than good. I suppose, like most, I've enjoyed the clips of RR calling or greeting players and telling them they've won the Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes. But that's not leadership. That's not providing direction - a positive trajectory - we've been waiting for since "Happy Thanksgiving". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre The Giant Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, skinzplay said: Letting RR finish the season will do more harm than good. I suppose, like most, I've enjoyed the clips of RR calling or greeting players and telling them they've won the Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes. But that's not leadership. That's not providing direction - a positive trajectory - we've been waiting for since "Happy Thanksgiving". I’m in agreement the team needs to consider firing Ron earlier than later. Not because Ron’s the HC, but because the personnel dept. reports to him. A number of players (e.g. Sweat, Chase, Curl, Samuel, etc) have expiring contracts. If this season goes sideways, it may make more sense long-term to trade some of these players prior to the trade deadline. It’s in Ron’s best interest to keep everyone on the roster this season. He needs to win now. Why would he agree to trade a player for future picks he won’t be around to use? You could fire Mayhew or Hurney and hire a new GM, but that probably violates Ron’s contract since he controls all football operations. It looks like we lost a lot when Kyle Smith left. Name the great players Mayhew & Hurney have acquired… We always hear how great our talent is. Are we sure? It would potentially make sense to get started earlier w/ a new GM, but I don’t see how you do that w/ Ron in the building. The one caveat is if you think you could eventually get a Harbaugh or Belichick and they’d want their own personnel team. In that case, you wouldn’t want to move on a new GM too soon. But I think it’d be a pretty healthy debate as to whether to go with a coach-led model again, even for one of those guys. Though I personally would probably go down that route to get one of them (especially if they had a strong GM in mind). Edited October 8, 2023 by Andre The Giant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwards Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, skinzplay said: Letting RR finish the season will do more harm than good. I suppose, like most, I've enjoyed the clips of RR calling or greeting players and telling them they've won the Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes. But that's not leadership. That's not providing direction - a positive trajectory - we've been waiting for since "Happy Thanksgiving". Actually, I think it's the opposite. Letting him finish the season, no matter how bad it may get (and I think he'll turn in another typical season where we win some meaningless games towards the end to wind up with around 8 wins) sends a positive message to these players. Look, these athletes are conditioned to Snyder's buffoonery. This is going to show that we have individuals in charge who are calculated in their reaction, not impulsive like Snyder. And the overhaul in the offseason with a real GM who chooses the HC, etc. will underscore this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor_Nutter_Butter Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 1 hour ago, skinzplay said: Letting RR finish the season will do more harm than good. I suppose, like most, I've enjoyed the clips of RR calling or greeting players and telling them they've won the Publisher's Clearing House Sweepstakes. But that's not leadership. That's not providing direction - a positive trajectory - we've been waiting for since "Happy Thanksgiving". The only thing I can think of is maybe Harris is doing this as a sign of respect. By letting him finish the season, he can then step down on "his terms." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted October 8, 2023 Author Share Posted October 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Professor_Nutter_Butter said: The only thing I can think of is maybe Harris is doing this as a sign of respect. By letting him finish the season, he can then step down on "his terms." Ron has earned no respect and hasn’t earned any finish on his terms. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conn Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 48 minutes ago, 88Comrade2000 said: Ron has earned no respect and hasn’t earned any finish on his terms. And yet Harris may feel that he’ll look better in the eyes of prospective GM’s and coaches to let him have it anyways. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballZombie Posted October 8, 2023 Share Posted October 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Conn said: And yet Harris may feel that he’ll look better in the eyes of prospective GM’s and coaches to let him have it anyways. Well said. That's worth a two "point" conversion rather than a single one. Bravo. Harris has every incentive not to make a move unless he absolutely has too. Like locker room in riot mode situation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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