Zim489 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, spjunkies said: They ain't going nowhere. Dont be so sure 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 So McVay goes to a stacked team and trades all their assets to win now and decides to leave when the bill is due. Hard pass for me. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: So McVay goes to a stacked team and trades all their assets to win now and decides to leave when the bill is due. Hard pass for me. Strongly agree. I'd take him as an OC though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Security Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 McVay’s OC left this season for a college team. Zac Robinson (passing game coordinator) took over those responsibilities and was believed to be in the running for OC in 23. If McVay goes, he’s out of a job. He’s young, 30, but could be an exciting change at OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Nonsense Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 McVay is a Super Bowl winning head coach, he’s not going to be an OC. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said: So McVay goes to a stacked team and trades all their assets to win now and decides to leave when the bill is due. Hard pass for me. He did? In 2017, he took over a team that had not had a winning season in 12 straight years and took them to the playoffs immediately, won an NFC championship in year 2, and the SB in year 5. In his 6 years with the Rams, this is his first losing season and has gone to the playoffs 4 times. In his SB year, 3 teams in his division had 10+ win years and in only 1 year did the division not send at least 2 teams to the playoffs. Edited January 9, 2023 by Darth Tater 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shemp nixon Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 If Turner goes bye-bye, it might be Mike Shula as OC. He was OC in Carolina under Rivera, he's with the Bills now, I think. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 11 hours ago, shemp nixon said: If Turner goes bye-bye, it might be Mike Shula as OC. He was OC in Carolina under Rivera, he's with the Bills now, I think. Unfortunately this is what the options would be. New owner n a coach thsts about to be on the hot seat makes for an unattractive destination as a coordinator. Was thinking Rons options are former assistants like Shula or Chudzinkski. Turner probably stays for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandB11 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Can we hire kingsbury for OC? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Kingsbury would be interesting. Have to figure he has better options than coming to Washington for what could be just one season. Tho if he did well enough the new owner may consider him as a replacement for Rivera. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shemp nixon Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, Captain Wiggles said: Kingsbury would be interesting. Have to figure he has better options than coming to Washington for what could be just one season. Tho if he did well enough the new owner may consider him as a replacement for Rivera. 🤔 Keep the system that is in place. Continuity for Howell is important. It's a proven system, just needs to be implemented better. We should expand the RPO stuff... Maximize Howell's run threat while he developes as a pocket passer. Philly does this really well. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Captain Wiggles said: Turner probably stays for that reason. My fear around getting rid of Turner is the inevitable change that comes with the new owner--that would put Howell and other offensive players in the dreaded Three Systems in Three Years cycle. That type of change has stunted the growth of many players. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 hours ago, shemp nixon said: Keep the system that is in place. Continuity for Howell is important. It's a proven system, just needs to be implemented better. We should expand the RPO stuff... Maximize Howell's run threat while he developes as a pocket passer. Philly does this really well. Would Kingsbury's "college" Air Raid type of offense be something Howell would be running though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Captain Wiggles said: Unfortunately this is what the options would be. New owner n a coach thsts about to be on the hot seat makes for an unattractive destination as a coordinator. Was thinking Rons options are former assistants like Shula or Chudzinkski. Turner probably stays for that reason. I think this is overblown. Yes, the "hot" young candidates would likely avoid the situation here but there are plenty of veteran OCs out there who would interview for this job. On the defensive side of the ball, you see it now where Schwartz is one of the candidates for the Browns' DC job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Riggo#44 said: My fear around getting rid of Turner is the inevitable change that comes with the new owner--that would put Howell and other offensive players in the dreaded Three Systems in Three Years cycle. That type of change has stunted the growth of many players. Man, I'm glad coaches like Pedersen, Daboll, KOC and McDaniel didn't go all Rivera and peddle some bullcrap 3-year nonsense. Congrats to their teams for making the playoffs this year on their first year as HC, while still building/revamping. RR sold that bullcrap to a dude who knows nothing about football, and his court jester JW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, skinzplay said: Man, I'm glad coaches like Pedersen, Daboll, KOC and McDaniel didn't go all Rivera and peddle some bullcrap 3-year nonsense. Congrats to their teams for making the playoffs this year on their first year as HC, while still building/revamping. RR sold that bullcrap to a dude who knows nothing about football, and his court jester JW. Rivera made the playoffs in his first year too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzplay Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Riggo#44 said: Rivera made the playoffs in his first year too. My maaaan, do you recall the context? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo#44 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, skinzplay said: My maaaan, do you recall the context? Not much different than the context of Pederson making it. That division was terrible, and the Jags had a 1-1 QB and spent a ton of money this off-season. I'm not saying Rivera is a great coach or anything but let's see the long term effect here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan2k Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Captain Wiggles said: Unfortunately this is what the options would be. New owner n a coach thsts about to be on the hot seat makes for an unattractive destination as a coordinator. Was thinking Rons options are former assistants like Shula or Chudzinkski. Turner probably stays for that reason. Zero chance any changes are going to be made. We aren't going to eat or take on any salaries for new coaches and or players. AKA daron payne isn't coming back 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Bye bye, Turner... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandB11 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 20 hours ago, skinfan2k said: Zero chance any changes are going to be made. We aren't going to eat or take on any salaries for new coaches and or players. AKA daron payne isn't coming back So glad this was wrong and qhickly so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofBruceAllen Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: Bye bye, Turner... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 4:50 PM, Buddha said: I really wonder if today's effort was because Rivera and Del Rio told the team before the game that they are retiring. @TK Sacred Savants among us! The Enlightened One has left the Astral Plane to pay us a visit!!🙏 For those restricted to sweeping the steps outside the temple, Buddha is one of the earliest ES'ers. Good to see you, old survivor. 🙂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 I'm not one to normally blame coaching but man was Turner bad. I admit I didn't hate him the last two years, I was willing to give him a chance, but he has absolutely no in game "feel" and his overall strategy and ability to adjust just sucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbo Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 Just now, Warhead36 said: I'm not one to normally blame coaching but man was Turner bad. I admit I didn't hate him the last two years, I was willing to give him a chance, but he has absolutely no in game "feel" and his overall strategy and ability to adjust just sucks. Every now and then the torch-besring mob gets it right on a play caller. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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