dunfer Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, NYSkins21 said: I agree completely with you. But if they DO take Hooker at 16, more than likely the evaluation was made through the eyes of EB. And if EB feels that Hooker offers more than what Howell does, I’m on board. EB would probably have to challenge and beat Ron unconscious during the 14-15 pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins21 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 52 minutes ago, MrJL said: the thing I read said it was the national media hyping Porter to us, close to home media less so. we are not good enough we can draft someone to sit, especially when that player is injured How long would he sit for? Based on reports that teams received notice that he should be pretty close to cleared by season start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurgeh Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 47 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said: It would crush my faith in Keim if they took him in the first. Keim is hardcore that they'd consider him in the 2nd especially if they trade down and pick up another pick and could take him in the late 2nd. But, otherwise he's hardcore that they are not taking Hooker in the first. When Keim says things with conviction like that, can't recall him ever being wrong. Albiet granted he can change his tune tomorrow based on whatever he's hearing. Not many QBs have been taken in the second round the last few years. I think if Hooker's there in the second, he'll be there in the third. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSkins21 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, dunfer said: EB would probably have to challenge and beat Ron unconscious during the 14-15 pick 😂 idk. I get the feeling that Ron has given EB the keys to this offense. I don’t think EB has been brought in for a one year OC spot fill. I think EB has more say than we think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 We aren't taking Hooker at 16. No way no how. I'd bet my mortgage on it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: We aren't taking Hooker at 16. No way no how. I'd bet my mortgage on it. Agree. I think Hooker in the first stinks of agent/draft hype. Edited April 26, 2023 by seantaylor=god 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, NYSkins21 said: 😂 idk. I get the feeling that Ron has given EB the keys to this offense. I don’t think EB has been brought in for a one year OC spot fill. I think EB has more say than we think. Keys within reason. Ron is judge jury and executioner with owner limbo. chances of a qb at 16 making ron look like a genius is low Edited April 26, 2023 by dunfer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebestian Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: We aren't taking Hooker at 16. No way no how. I'd bet my mortgage on it. The owner is not involved anymore. Means we should see fewer of these types of moves. Not a chance they draft Hooker.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDibbs31 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Hooker had a mental breakdown against Clemson when he was at VT and the dude is already 25 years old. Please pass on him. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJL Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Just now, sebestian said: The owner is not involved anymore. Means we should see fewer of these types of moves. Not a chance they draft Hooker.. we don't know that. Maybe theres a reason Snyder came back this week 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 52 minutes ago, MrJL said: where did you see this? Id love to keep Roulier and just have Gates as the new Schweitzer. Cutting Norwell would save a good chunk of money I went back to try and find the tweet and I couldn’t. I think someone else posted a picture of Roullier without a brace on at OTAs. Not saying either thing is true and that our starting LG-C will be Paul+Roullier, but it’s certainly an option out there that many of us (mostly me) have disregarded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice_of_Reason Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: We aren't taking Hooker at 16. No way no how. I'd bet my mortgage on it. So if you lose that bet, does somebody else have to pay your mortgage? Seems like a pretty good deal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 Why was I under the impression Roullier had such a serious injury there has been thoughts of retirement? If he rehabs, would he be able to play this year? If so, would it be at the same level this year as in the past? Will he be capable of playing to his CAP worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 minute ago, DWinzit said: Why was I under the impression Roullier had such a serious injury there has been thoughts of retirement? If he rehabs, would he be able to play this year? If so, would it be at the same level this year as in the past? Will he be capable of playing to his CAP worth? Nobody really knows. It’s been quiet on that front. Either way, I think he and Leno are prime cut candidates after the season. They’re owed a combined $25-26m in 2024 and if we draft an OT and C this year we could have their replacements in house. Depending on how early we go OC and whether we draft an OT that can move from RT to LT in year 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, sebestian said: The owner is not involved anymore. Means we should see fewer of these types of moves. Not a chance they draft Hooker.. Dan might end up multitasking on his yacht and forget to go on mute with the war room and will say someone bring me a hooker. In the war room they will say you want us to draft Hooker Mr. Snyder and he will be forced to say yes. So there is a chance! 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 minute ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: Nobody really knows. It’s been quiet on that front. Either way, I think he and Leno are prime cut candidates after the season. They’re owed a combined $25-26m in 2024 and if we draft an OT and C this year we could have their replacements in house. Depending on how early we go OC and whether we draft an OT that can move from RT to LT in year 2. I find it hard seeing Leno cut, he is still good and can play multiple positions but you could be correct. More likely Roullier, Norwell and Charles smell like cuts. But could go a lot of way and dependent on who is drafted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, DWinzit said: I find it hard seeing Leno cut, he is still good and can play multiple positions but you could be correct. More likely Roullier, Norwell and Charles smell like cuts. But could go a lot of way and dependent on who is drafted. For the record I’m talking mostly about Leno being a cut post 2023. He’s the LT this year. But if you draft Anton Harrison and he plays RT in 2023 and projects to LT in 2024, there’s no need to pay Leno $14m in his final year. Either draft a RT early next year or flip Wylie back to RT while grabbing a mid round OT to develop at RT longterm. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seantaylor=god Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DWinzit said: I find it hard seeing Leno cut, he is still good and can play multiple positions but you could be correct. More likely Roullier, Norwell and Charles smell like cuts. But could go a lot of way and dependent on who is drafted. 100%. Leno isn’t going anywhere this year. Could we draft his replacement? Absolutely. But I doubt anyone could supplant him this year, he’s still an average to slightly above average starting LT. Roullier is getting restructured to something more reasonable, and if he doesn’t want to do it he can get cut after June 1 to save 8 mil. No one is handing out big contracts to C with injury issues, so it may be worth it for him to sign back here anyway. I hope we can work something out with him, he was good when healthy and I’d like to see him get back to that level. Unrelated, did you all know Harrison is a DC native? Harrison was a four-star recruit and was a top-200 prospect nationally for his play at Archbishop Carroll High School in Washington, D.C. Edited April 27, 2023 by seantaylor=god 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, JamesMadisonSkins said: For the record I’m talking mostly about Leno being a cut post 2023. He’s the LT this year. But if you draft Anton Harrison and he plays RT in 2023 and projects to LT in 2024, there’s no need to pay Leno $14m in his final year. Either draft a RT early next year or flip Wylie back to RT while grabbing a mid round OT to develop at RT longterm. Got it, Like it. I think I am more in on Harrison than others on the board and yes, he would be next years Leno replacement! 8 minutes ago, seantaylor=god said: 100%. Leno isn’t going anywhere this year. Could we draft his replacement? Absolutely. But I doubt anyone could supplant him this year, he’s still an average to slightly above average starting LT. Roullier is getting restructured to something more reasonable, and if he doesn’t want to do it he can get cut after June 1 to save 8 mil. No one is handing out big contracts to C with injury issues, so it may be worth it for him to sign back here anyway. I hope we can work something out with him, he was good when healthy and I’d like to see him get back to that level. If he isn't healthy I'd say he is a June 1st cut. This is a strong C draft. They can grab one that sits behind Gates. They believe in Gates at C and it is his best position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinsinparadise Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 43 minutes ago, Gurgeh said: Not many QBs have been taken in the second round the last few years. I think if Hooker's there in the second, he'll be there in the third. Maybe. Keim said late 2nd or 3rd if they do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunfer Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, SoCalSkins said: Dan might end up multitasking on his yacht and forget to go on mute with the war room and will say someone bring me a hooker. In the war room they will say you want us to draft Hooker Mr. Snyder and he will be forced to say yes. So there is a chance! 😂 it would be a great scene on 30 for 30 when one of the equipment managers hangs up on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oraphus Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Just like my first time with a Hooker at 16, I was left mostly disappointed. learn from my mistakes! 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clskinsfan Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 DJ doing his last mock right now on NFLN. Has us taking Forbes at 16. I like Forbes. But if we take him at 16 I will blow a gasket. His size is a MAJOR red flag for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesMadisonSkins Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, clskinsfan said: DJ doing his last mock right now on NFLN. Has us taking Forbes at 16. I like Forbes. But if we take him at 16 I will blow a gasket. His size is a MAJOR red flag for me. National media is forcing CB on us at 16 like they forced the Howell can’t be it narrative all off season despite what the local media has been saying. Gonzalez or Witherspoon makes sense as they’d be BPA. But we aren’t reaching on a CB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 CB is a big time need for us make no mistake about it, but this coaching staff has a good track record of developing mid round CBs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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