mistertim Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, The Evil Genius said: What changed? Did Jan 6th make him a GOPer? "I really didn't want to get into politics........but I did anyway...at the worst time, in the worst way, backing the worst causes and people." 53 minutes ago, Captain Wiggles said: I've long suspected most of the bigly successful techy silicon valley types have always been conservatives. Zuckerberg, Musk, Peter Thiel, and a long list of other assholes idk. Sposidly it's quite common for employees to hide their conservative leanings in the tech companies. 🤷♂️ I think it may at least partially be about the overall authoritarianism, not so much the actual policies. The modern GOP is heavily authoritarian and, while most of them likely didn't start out that way, I think there are plenty of the big tech billionaires who weren't able to resist the pull of the dark side and allowed their heavily stroked egos morph into megalomania. The modern GOP is all about the "right" groups of people telling the "wrong" groups of people what to do and how to live, while not suffering from any of the same restrictions themselves. Some of the tech billionaires probably think along the same lines, especially when they're surrounded 24/7 by people who tell them how brilliant they are. There's also the financial aspect of it, since the GOP is all about making sure the rich and corps get tons of breaks. But when you're that rich a 5% difference in your tax rate probably won't matter much, plus you probably have most of your money and assets stashed in a way where you pay almost no taxes on them and just use them for leverage to finance everything you own. Some, like Thiel, have pretty much always been heavily libertarian (IIRC) as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Thiel claims to be a libertarian but he's bankrollin far right Trump Republican candidates. https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/02/peter-thiel-tied-dark-money-group-helping-bankroll-super-pac-spending-on-2022-election/ I can easily see Musk going this route at some point as well. All while continuing to claim to be some libertarian free speech absolutist scientifical engineering type smart guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Libertarians are just Republicans afraid to admit they are Republican...and sometimes 14 yo boys reading Ayn Rand. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Libertarians are just Republicans afraid to admit they are Republican...and sometimes 14 yo boys reading Ayn Rand. Libertarianism in action is a myth. Like the small government Conservatism that we've heard about forever. If either really happened with success, you'd have them pointing to example. But they all know how it works. Talk about tax breaks and less spending. Then they cut taxes for those who need it the least, continue spending, and all the sudden debt doesn't matter anymore. Especially when a guy like Grassley doesn't care about someone 80 years younger than him. They can figure it out when he's long gone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted June 15, 2022 Author Share Posted June 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, The Evil Genius said: Libertarians are just Republicans afraid to admit they are Republican...and sometimes 14 yo boys reading Ayn Rand. Agreed. 3 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Re: tech Dont mistake republican for hard core conservative. There’s plenty of republicans in tech. There’s plenty of people who don’t pick a side either. And in some ways yeah, at big tech firms, there may be a more liberal atmosphere that keeps the republicans quiet at work. But there’s just not much attraction for hard core conservativeness. religion? No. Drugs? No. Abortion? Meh. There’s no real second amendment appeal. Taxes aren’t special in the tech industry. but there’s plenty of non-liberals. The industry hasn’t been very pro-female over the decades. In fact it was dominated by anti-social arrogant nerds for most of its existence as an industry. And they don’t exactly tend to be liberals. They just think they’re smarter than everyone. There’s definitely a bro coder culture - very frat boy like in places. And of course we’ve had random things hit the news about weird manifestos on society and women and men and such. It doesn’t particularly attract lgbtq people. I think you’ll find it mostly reflects the cities the company is HQ’d in, with the rest being quiet outsiders. I’ve got friends in Florida working in tech surrounded by trump supporters, for example. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Too many dongle donkeys and not enough silicon Sally's. 🤓 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tshile Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 What if musk is Q 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hersh Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Just now, tshile said: What if musk is Q We should start that. Elon Musk Owns Tesla is 17 letters!!! Isn't that their number? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullnelson9999 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Qanon, eh? That's really, really embarrassing for anyone who goes out of their way to support this guy at every opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 8 hours ago, Captain Wiggles said: Much like brand loyalty to cigarette companies of yesteryear. Get someone smoking Marlboros or Camels or Chesterfields and they're likely to smoke that one and only brand until they die. That's my plan. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 55 minutes ago, The Almighty Buzz said: That's my plan. What's your brand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatBuzz Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Just now, Captain Wiggles said: What's your brand? Marlboro. It's what my dad smoked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Wiggles Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Yeah Phillip Morris makes a fine product. 🚬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 16 hours ago, tshile said: What if musk is Q Oh Jesus Christ, please don't let Musk see this. You know he'd run with it and milk it for all it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, mistertim said: Oh Jesus Christ, please don't let Musk see this. You know he'd run with it and milk it for all it's worth. Tell me you’d be surprised at all if it turned out it was him? (im aware generally it’s assumed it was the 2 in the documentary about it last year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 I still think John de Lancie should be suing the hell out of all of them (Q). 🤓 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Elon didn’t have time to be Q. He was too busy being madly in love with Johnny Depp’s wife back then. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CousinsCowgirl84 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Califan007 The Constipated said: these guys know if they loose they’ll have to pay Musk’s legal fees right? I bet they are trying to get a settlement for like $100K or something… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Elon Musk covers everything from layoffs to aliens in Q&A with Twitter employees Elon Musk staged a town hall meeting with Twitter employees on Thursday, addressing everything from layoffs and remote work to politics and aliens as he appeared to double down on his $44 billion commitment to take over the company. Asked about whether he would slash jobs at Twitter if the deal goes through, Musk gave an ominous response, reportedly saying, “Right now, costs exceed revenue. That’s not a great situation.” “The company does need to get healthy,” added Musk. Notably, Twitter’s rank and file failed to specifically ask Musk the biggest question on Wall Street right now — namely, whether he plans to negotiate down the sale price for the company or is considering backing out of the deal altogether. Twitter shares fell 1.7% to $37.36 on Thursday afternoon — far below the deal price of $54.20 a share — indicating mounting investor skepticism about the deal. During the video question-and-answer session, Musk told Twitter employees that he has “moderate politics” and is “pretty close to center” but said that extreme political views and “pretty outrageous things” should be allowed on the site as long as they don’t violate the law, Bloomberg reported. Musk also reiterated that he was leaning toward supporting Florida’s Republican Governor Ron DeSantis for president in 2024, the New York Times reported. In response to employee questions, Musk said that top performing Twitter employees could be allowed to work from home forever, but that it is “much better if you are on location physically.” “If someone can only work remotely and they’re exceptional, it wouldn’t make sense to fire them,” Musk reportedly said. Twitter currently allows most employees to work remotely as much as they want. Musk has taken a hard line toward remote work at Tesla, ordering all employees back into the office for a bare minimum of 40 hours per week, save for “particularly exceptional contributors” who he personally approves himself. Wedbush Securities managing director Dan Ives told The Post that the meeting highlighted a “clear contrast in culture” between Musk and Twitter while doing little to assuage investors. "The Musk Twitter all-hands call was the wrong call at the wrong time,” he said. Click on the link for the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Free speech absolutist? 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tshile Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 It will be one of the more amazing falls from grace we’ll get to see and it’s going on now it’s going to be glorious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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